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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 25 @ 1:12 PM ET
Yep, problem is Ballard will be the one to go.
- dadeadhead


If u look at the trouble they are in w the cap next year, they might have to get rid of Luongo, Ballard, AND another salary...
They are in rough shape
Booth is prob the one to go, but maybe Bieksa could be had for the right deal of talent w a small cap hit (Sekera + maybe?)
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 25 @ 1:12 PM ET
Should have sent him back to juniors if this was how they were going to use him IMO. Press box and having John Scott as a linemate does zilch for the kid.
- Gunner Staal



I agree, but the fact is that he is stuck here. You can't go back on the decision. Good leaders figure out a way to make it work despite the circumstances, especially when the current way of doing things has been leading to extremely sub par results.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Feb 25 @ 1:13 PM ET
could you imagine this board if he was sent back? Not to mention sent back and this team be poor while he tears up the Q
- hubie


Isnt that the net result as it stands right now?
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Feb 25 @ 1:13 PM ET
Larry Brooks is the The New York posts hockey guy.

Torts and him don't play well in the sand box.

- dadeadhead



Gotcha
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Feb 25 @ 1:13 PM ET

- homiedclown



I love seeing douchbags act tough from their seats behind 1" of Plexi.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 25 @ 1:13 PM ET
Isnt that the net result as it stands right now?
- Gunner Staal


yeah but if we didnt know what hed do up here wed start lynching upper management
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Feb 25 @ 1:13 PM ET

- dadeadhead


pure gold!!
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Feb 25 @ 1:14 PM ET
I agree, but the fact is that he is stuck here. You can't go back on the decision. Good leaders figure out a way to make it work despite the circumstances, especially when the current way of doing things has been leading to extremely sub par results.
- buffalofan19


I'm with you, throw him a bone. Who cares if he deserves it or not at this point. Sabres are 29th out of 30 teams, whats the difference?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 25 @ 1:14 PM ET
If u look at the trouble they are in w the cap next year, they might have to get rid of Luongo, Ballard, AND another salary...
They are in rough shape
Booth is prob the one to go, but maybe Bieksa could be had for the right deal of talent w a small cap hit (Sekera + maybe?)

- jdfitz77



Buyouts of Booth and Ballard, 8.45 off the books.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Feb 25 @ 1:14 PM ET
yeah but if we didnt know what hed do up here wed start lynching upper management
- hubie


As opposed to now? haha
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 25 @ 1:15 PM ET
As opposed to now? haha
- Gunner Staal


It would be a lot uglier.
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Feb 25 @ 1:15 PM ET
oving Ennis to wing is fine, though. That's where he started, anyway.

What I'm saying with Grigo is this: Show me something.

- Powerslave


Maybe he has mono......just sayin'
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 25 @ 1:15 PM ET
I'm with you, throw him a bone. Who cares if he deserves it or not at this point. Sabres are 29th out of 30 teams, whats the difference?
- Gunner Staal

Difference is our GM is in denial and will not accept the fact we are not good enough
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Feb 25 @ 1:17 PM ET
Difference is our GM is in denial and will not accept the fact we are not good enough
- sbroads24


He'll be gone soon enough. Take your top 3 pick and a new GM and be happy. This could be the most productive Sabres season in 10 years outside of the ECF with Carolina.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 25 @ 1:17 PM ET
Difference is our GM is in denial and will not accept the fact we are not good enough
- sbroads24



jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 25 @ 1:18 PM ET
I personally like Pominville more but no way they consider it again.
- sbroads24


I like Pominville too, but if we are gonna trade him then I'd love Brown... Plays a physical game... And Homer has said that deal was on the table last year which is why I brought it up
If LA would take Stafford + for Brown then I'd do it... But no way they would
TerryPegs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm not the enemy and you make
Joined: 01.08.2012

Feb 25 @ 1:18 PM ET
No it goes back to when Torts was an assistant here If memory serves me correctly.
- dadeadhead

Aha. Okay thanks DD.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 25 @ 1:19 PM ET
He'll be gone soon enough. Take your top 3 pick and a new GM and be happy. This could be the most productive Sabres season in 10 years outside of the ECF with Carolina.
- Gunner Staal

Which is what most of us fans are hoping for. Nothing will change for the good until Darcy is gone and we become sellers
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Feb 25 @ 1:21 PM ET
Which is what most of us fans are hoping for. Nothing will change for the good until Darcy is gone and we become sellers
- sbroads24


This is the year, it has finally arrived believe it or not.
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Feb 25 @ 1:22 PM ET
This is the year, it has finally arrived believe it or not.
- Gunner Staal



Source?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 25 @ 1:23 PM ET
Buyouts of Booth and Ballard, 8.45 off the books.
- dadeadhead


That would still give them only about 12.5mil to sign 10 guys
Even throw in an extra 5mil room if they trade Luongo,
And it's still under 18mil to sign 11 players
Can't really get much value in the free agent market, since everyone gets overpaid...
So thy may look to trade some of their vets for younger, cheaper talent
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Feb 25 @ 1:23 PM ET
This is the year, it has finally arrived believe it or not.
- Gunner Staal



Problem. As discussed yesterday. Are they going to trust a guy the plan to fire with making those decisions?
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Feb 25 @ 1:24 PM ET
Anyone know when mhp is it usually comes on ?
I'd like to apologize to him for being a complete ass last time we chatted here.

- BuffaloHardHat



I replied to your pm, no worries dude.

Take care all.
battelmt
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Between the Pipes..., NY
Joined: 05.29.2007

Feb 25 @ 1:24 PM ET
He'll be gone soon enough. Take your top 3 pick and a new GM and be happy. This could be the most productive Sabres season in 10 years outside of the ECF with Carolina.
- Gunner Staal


totally agree. im thinking 1yr rebuild a la philly, ottowa- not 3yr like pitt, edmonton...

positive is that we will suck bad in a 48 game season instead of an 82 game season.

downside is with the new lottery system % chance of winning 1st overall are down from last year.

upside to that is top 3 guys are all worthy of 1st pick.
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Feb 25 @ 1:26 PM ET
Problem. As discussed yesterday. Are they going to trust a guy the plan to fire with making those decisions?
- Buffalo--Sabres



Just wait till contracts start being boughht out and all the UFA talent out there will command HUGE dollars. Demand will be way higher than the supply. It will make VL contract look awesome
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