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hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 25 @ 12:51 PM ET
I'd want Seabrook for Miller from CHI
D.Brown + from LA for Pommer
Kronwall + Howard from DET for Vanek

Maybe that LA trade works for both teams
I don't really see Chicago willing to trade their best defenseman, they might do something like Hjalmarsson + Crawford, but if that's the best we'd get I'd try to move Miller somewhere else
Detroit is hurting for defensemen, so why they'd give us Kronwall is beyond me, but that's who I'd want... And I put Howard in there bc trading Miller woul leave us w no one in net, but Deteoit wouldn't have a goalie then, so that won't happen

I don't know that Chicago & Detroit would be the best trade partners

- jdfitz77


def dont think chi fits no need to make moves
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Feb 25 @ 12:51 PM ET
(Carried over from last blog)


You're sick of the "earn it" BS?

Fine, you tell Ennis or Hodgson that they are demoted to the 3rd line based on nothing but some fans' desire to give some 18 year old great white hype their minutes of ice time, even though Hodge and Enzo have played their asses off. That's a joke.


You tell me what Grigorenko has shown you, that you would would put him in a top 6 role.

The kid has done nothing. Never mind that he has played with just grinders. He played with Ott quite a bit to start the season. Ott has skill. The kid still showed us nothing. Maybe he had a flashy move once in a blue moon. So we should just all bow down to the legend of Grigo?

He isn't ready. Face it.

The pace of the game is too much for him. He looks slow and he looks timid (he is 6"3". He shouldn't be timid). He never wins a battle along the boards, EVER. He looks like he's terrified of making a mistake.

You are enamored with what Grigs COULD be, not what he currently is.

Is all of this his fault? No. Am I denying he has talent? No.

But at the very least he has to show his coaches that he wants to be there. He needs to skate his ass off, use his big frame and win a damn battle once in a while.

- Powerslave


Could all have been avoided if the rules would have just allowed Grigorenko to play in the AHL.
LamontSanford
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You Big Dummy
Joined: 01.13.2011

Feb 25 @ 12:52 PM ET
I hear you on every thing you just said... I really do... I think that Pommer is not a Captain.. but he is a very good veteran to have around.. A lot of the heat against pommer is that he is not a good captain.. well lets take that out of the equation for a second... he is an all around player.. he is a PK'er.. and he can put up 60+ points every season... He doesn't get hurt often.. he doesn't complain or make waves in the media...
- JVince11

A few of these are a must, just look at Ottawa's turn around (Before getting hit with the biggest injury bad Karma ever) They dealt or let go most of the vets and went with some younger guys and they were on the right track. I think you move Miller for sure as well as Stafford then try to get some return on Robyn Regehr, Gerbe, Hecht, Leino, Leopold, & Sulzer if possible and see where the dust settles. Keeping Vanek & Pominville are not going to kill you.
Pillar
Location: Amos, QC
Joined: 07.06.2012

Feb 25 @ 12:52 PM ET
Brown for Pommer? Unless Darcy has picks of Kings ownership with a Tranny-that aint happenen
- Pillar



Pommer is a 1 dimensional proven loser. Brown is a cup toting stud that can score, hit and lead his team to the promised land!
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 25 @ 12:52 PM ET
(Carried over from last blog)


You're sick of the "earn it" BS?

Fine, you tell Ennis or Hodgson that they are demoted to the 3rd line based on nothing but some fans' desire to give some 18 year old great white hype their minutes of ice time, even though Hodge and Enzo have played their asses off. That's a joke.


You tell me what Grigorenko has shown you, that you would would put him in a top 6 role.

The kid has done nothing. Never mind that he has played with just grinders. He played with Ott quite a bit to start the season. Ott has skill. The kid still showed us nothing. Maybe he had a flashy move once in a blue moon. So we should just all bow down to the legend of Grigo?

He isn't ready. Face it.

The pace of the game is too much for him. He looks slow and he looks timid (he is 6"3". He shouldn't be timid). He never wins a battle along the boards, EVER. He looks like he's terrified of making a mistake.

You are enamored with what Grigs COULD be, not what he currently is.

Is all of this his fault? No. Am I denying he has talent? No.

But at the very least he has to show his coaches that he wants to be there. He needs to skate his ass off, use his big frame and win a damn battle once in a while.

- Powerslave


They've played their asses off and what's the result? 15th place in the conference. I'm sick of hearing about how hard people try or don't try. It should always be about results. Winning is all that matters. That's part of the entire problem. People in this town are enamored by effort moreso than they are with winning, especially the people that make decisions. That's exactly why we have zero championships. It's a loser mentality.

And they don't need to demote any center to put Grigorenko with guys of his skillset. They could put him on the wing, or move Ennis to a wing. This team is allowed to be creative. Putting a guy like Grigorenko with two grinders with limited offensive ability is setting the guy up for failure. The tunnel vision when it comes to things like this is mindboggling. What's are they scared of? Losing games?

I'm not enamored with Grigorenko. He should have been sent back down to juniors. However, he wasn't. He's stuck here. So, you need to use in him in a way that best helps your team. I refuse to believe that's between two guys with cinder blocks as skates. It was the same problem with Afinogenov. Anyone with an IQ of 16 could see that putting him with 2 guys (Ellis and Mair) that could barely skate made both himself and his linemates a liability. It's a complete misuse of resources.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 25 @ 12:53 PM ET
Could all have been avoided if the rules would have just allowed Grigorenko to play in the AHL.
- Gunner Staal



IMO your 1st rd pick should be able to play where ever you'd like them to. Its a stupid rule. Always has been.
mes418
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.20.2007

Feb 25 @ 12:53 PM ET
Larry Brooks proposes a Brad Richards buy out? Already? I would have said maybe next year.
keptupl8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We've had our pee pee slapped here, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 25 @ 12:53 PM ET
Or she knows she getting primed to do things she really doesn't want to and doesn't really wanna remember it.
- dadeadhead

Or she is getting primed to do things that she really loves to do, and most girls won't, and she knows it, and he knows it... otherwise she wouldn't be anywhere near there.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 25 @ 12:54 PM ET
Larry Brooks proposes a Brad Richards buy out? Already? I would have said maybe next year.
- mes418

I called that last year. Glad we didn't sign him
druryisclutch
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 09.21.2006

Feb 25 @ 12:54 PM ET
Pommer is a 1 dimensional proven loser. Brown is a cup toting stud that can score, hit and lead his team to the promised land!
- Pillar


Did you just quote yourself? I thought that was against the rules? J/k, I totally agree. There is no way Pommer gets you Brown.
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Feb 25 @ 12:54 PM ET
Could all have been avoided if the rules would have just allowed Grigorenko to play in the AHL.
- Gunner Staal


yep. when your scored 69 goals and 135 points in 91 games that league is useless to you.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 25 @ 12:55 PM ET
Or she is getting primed to do things that she really loves to do, and most girls won't, and she knows it, and he knows it... otherwise she wouldn't be anywhere near there.
- keptupl8



Then why would she need to get primed?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 25 @ 12:56 PM ET
Larry Brooks proposes a Brad Richards buy out? Already? I would have said maybe next year.
- mes418



Makes popcorn awaiting next Torts presser.
keptupl8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We've had our pee pee slapped here, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 25 @ 12:56 PM ET
Then why would she need to get primed?
- dadeadhead

Don't they all?
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Feb 25 @ 12:56 PM ET
Larry Brooks proposes a Brad Richards buy out? Already? I would have said maybe next year.
- mes418



Forgive my ignornace, is he the Rangers GM?
TerryPegs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm not the enemy and you make
Joined: 01.08.2012

Feb 25 @ 12:56 PM ET
Larry Brooks proposes a Brad Richards buy out? Already? I would have said maybe next year.
- mes418

That is a bit surprising.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 25 @ 12:57 PM ET
Don't they all?
- keptupl8


You and I hang around different women/girls.


buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 25 @ 12:57 PM ET
Makes popcorn awaiting next Torts presser.
- dadeadhead



If the Rangers continue a poor swing, and Torts is a casualty. I hope to God the Sabres pounce on him, only to see him go toe to toe with Bucky Gleason every night.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 25 @ 12:58 PM ET
Forgive my ignornace, is he the Rangers GM?
- Buffalo--Sabres



keptupl8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We've had our pee pee slapped here, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 25 @ 12:58 PM ET
Forgive my ignornace, is he the Rangers GM?
- Buffalo--Sabres

He's their Bucky Gleason
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 25 @ 12:59 PM ET
Agreed....

Bieska or Hamhuis anyone?

- JVince11


Like both,
Prefer Bieksa bc he's a RH shot, and right now Myers is our only RH defenseman
Pillar
Location: Amos, QC
Joined: 07.06.2012

Feb 25 @ 1:00 PM ET
(Carried over from last blog)


You're sick of the "earn it" BS?

Fine, you tell Ennis or Hodgson that they are demoted to the 3rd line based on nothing but some fans' desire to give some 18 year old great white hype their minutes of ice time, even though Hodge and Enzo have played their asses off. That's a joke.


You tell me what Grigorenko has shown you, that you would would put him in a top 6 role.

The kid has done nothing. Never mind that he has played with just grinders. He played with Ott quite a bit to start the season. Ott has skill. The kid still showed us nothing. Maybe he had a flashy move once in a blue moon. So we should just all bow down to the legend of Grigo?

He isn't ready. Face it.

The pace of the game is too much for him. He looks slow and he looks timid (he is 6"3". He shouldn't be timid). He never wins a battle along the boards, EVER. He looks like he's terrified of making a mistake.

You are enamored with what Grigs COULD be, not what he currently is.

Is all of this his fault? No. Am I denying he has talent? No.

But at the very least he has to show his coaches that he wants to be there. He needs to skate his ass off, use his big frame and win a damn battle once in a while.

- Powerslave


I couldn't disagree more. Girgorenko has not been put into a position to succeed. Give him some time on the PP. Let him play with Vanek. Put him on a wing for now. Let Pomminville play with Hecht and ott. That would be a good line for us. Pomminville and Hecht have had some success together.
Pillar
Location: Amos, QC
Joined: 07.06.2012

Feb 25 @ 1:01 PM ET
Did you just quote yourself? I thought that was against the rules? J/k, I totally agree. There is no way Pommer gets you Brown.
- druryisclutch



I am trying to avoid quoting myself, but I get confused, you know, with all the voices I am hearing.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 25 @ 1:01 PM ET
Like both,
Prefer Bieksa bc he's a RH shot, and right now Myers is our only RH defenseman

- jdfitz77



Yep, problem is Ballard will be the one to go.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 25 @ 1:01 PM ET
Like both,
Prefer Bieksa bc he's a RH shot, and right now Myers is our only RH defenseman

- jdfitz77

False, Myers has no hands

Beiksa would be more likely to get than Hamhuis, Ham might play for team Canada next year
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