so?
- Yosimar89

so bet 100 they win wednesday. and then let it ride they lose SAturday.

I think you confused Gus with Gervais...
- Yosimar89

No, I'm not. They were both horrendous.

WTF was Knuble there?

I would've rather seen Rinaldo.
- Yosimar89

probably because he's good for garbage in front of the net. the whole team was allergic to that area for most of the night.

The whole team was horrific outside of Voracek and Giroux/Hartnell on some shifts.

Would be nice to see Coots stay to pick it up. Playing well defensively is something top 4th liners can do.

They are all frustrating as hell to watch.

In this league weak goals kill you. If Bryzgalov doesnt let in that first stinker its a different game.

WTF was Knuble there?

I would've rather seen Rinaldo.
- Yosimar89

Knuble is a veteran and is a big body in front of the net, I'm fine with that but Gus? Kimmo and Coburn or hell even Schenn to get back at his own team I could understand.

Did you watch him play in that game? He was an absolute train wreck and Lavvy kept throwing him out there
- Flyers2821

What was he going to do? Run 4 dmen the whole 3rd like Tortorella?

Scary part is there's 27 games left in the season.

my gaude

this is what they are. simply not a very good team. inability to be consistent. getting nothing from a lot of players. couple of very near misses.

leafs played the perfect road game and scored on their limited opportunities. deserved the win.

flyers have a lot of work to do.
- hammarby31

This is a key point. Can't count on Giroux and Voracek to do everything. Simmonds and Schenn have chipped in at a good rate as well. Other than that, a bunch of guys not producing. Losing Read really hurts.

.500?

pffft! who needs it!

gervais

What was he going to do? Run 4 dmen the whole 3rd like Tortorella?
- Giroux_Is_God

He might as well have.

can't win playing 20 mins a night

Knuble is a veteran and is a big body in front of the net, I'm fine with that but Gus? Kimmo and Coburn or hell even Schenn to get back at his own team I could understand.
- coffee junkie

Kimmo and Coburn were both pathetic as well.

It's a cold, cold winter in Philly sports.

Scary part is there's 27 games left in the season.

my gaude
- feelingkettle

Seth Jones is closer than I thought.

.500?

pffft! who needs it!
- FlyerGuy

the lower it goes the better chance at seth jones

Did you watch him play in that game? He was an absolute train wreck and Lavvy kept throwing him out there
- Flyers2821

He didn't play well. What's the alternative, run Gervais out there more?

This is a key point. Can't count on Giroux and Voracek to do everything. Simmonds and Schenn have chipped in at a good rate as well. Other than that, a bunch of guys not producing. Losing Read really hurts.
- PLindbergh31

yep. i said on twitter early in the game, this is one where they really need read. versatile. works hard every night. keeps it simple but has skill.

the defense and bottom 2 lines are allowed to contribute offensively.

Seth Jones is closer than I thought.
- hereticpride

Flyers are not bad enough. We are the Leafs from the last couple of years. Not good at being bad.

couts for hamilton?

wow the flyers suck... Bryz chocked on 2 goals tonight and were is the frakin defense ... something needs to be done this is pathetic we need an upgrade on the defense soon

He didn't play well. What's the alternative, run Gervais out there more?
- PLindbergh31

Neither Gervais or Gus should have been on the ice the last 5 minutes of the game.

I've been hard on Brayden Schenn and Voracek early in the season.

I realise Coots is playing well defensively but the team needs more out of him than that.

There are many players in the NHL that are good defensively.

this is what they are. simply not a very good team. inability to be consistent. getting nothing from a lot of players. couple of very near misses.

leafs played the perfect road game and scored on their limited opportunities. deserved the win.

flyers have a lot of work to do.
- hammarby31

That's the reality of it. Anyone can scapegoat any player they want to. But this is a team issue. Until the shore up the little things that make the biggest difference. This team, despite the talent it has, will be an average team. It starts with team defense, puck management, penalties. They didn't raise their game and show a real sense of urgency until late in the game. They come out in the 3rd, breakdowns in their own zone. And that leads to penalty, and down 2 goals.

Flyers are not bad enough. We are the Leafs from the last couple of years. Not good at being bad.
- feelingkettle

I assure you we're bad enough.