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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 25 @ 7:53 PM ET
Something to keep an eye on for sure.

Every goaltender will have a bad stretch, but that kind of goal makes you cringe.

He needs to be consistent.

- flyer_nutter


He's been consistent for the most part. His save % and GAA aren't even close to League average, but a good amount of the goals he's allowed he's had little or no chance.

More recently, the soft goals have been increasing.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Feb 25 @ 7:53 PM ET
Flyers need to start hitting and get emotional.... They are getting lulled to sleep
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Feb 25 @ 7:53 PM ET
Bryz lets so many soft goals in...
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 25 @ 7:54 PM ET
Soft goals are starting to creep back. Simply can't allow that kind of goal.
- PLindbergh31


Well, if he didn't hug the post (like he normally doesn't), that's not a goal.

The poor bastard can't win for losing.
FlyerLifer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 09.11.2007

Feb 25 @ 7:54 PM ET
Something to keep an eye on for sure.

Every goaltender will have a bad stretch, but that kind of goal makes you cringe.

He needs to be consistent.

- flyer_nutter


He's been better this year but I dunno if I can handle 7 more years of this.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 25 @ 7:54 PM ET
Buyout?
- stveshdy


I'm not ready to go there. Lots of hockey left to be played.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 25 @ 7:55 PM ET
Bryz lets so many soft goals in...
- Winning


That was a great shot by Kessel
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Feb 25 @ 7:56 PM ET
I dont even want to go into a topic of Bryzgalov going back to inconsistent hockey.


Horrific idea.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 25 @ 7:56 PM ET
Flyers making scrivens look vezina worthy
- Philly1980


Ya know.. the thing is, he doesn't at all.. Rebound central.. but the Flyers are settling for outside shots and not going to the net at all..
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 25 @ 7:56 PM ET
That was a great shot by Kessel
- stveshdy


Yeah, I was looking over Kessel's shoulder on the replay, and he put it right inside the far post..
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 25 @ 7:56 PM ET
That was a great shot by Kessel
- stveshdy


Good technique and positioning, and that is a routine save.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Feb 25 @ 7:57 PM ET
That was a great shot by Kessel
- stveshdy


I dont care if you have a lighting bolt coming out of Zeus's ass right there.

If he is in position he saves that goal.

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 25 @ 7:57 PM ET
I'm not ready to go there. Lots of hockey left to be played.
- PLindbergh31


Very true.

This is the way the Flyers have played for most of the year. I expect next period to be all Flyers.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 25 @ 7:58 PM ET
Good technique and positioning, and that is a routine save.
- PLindbergh31


That puck had eye's. Kessel put that in the perfect spot. Nice shot.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 25 @ 7:59 PM ET
Under the current criteria, he most certainly is.

What I am saying is that if I ran the circus, he wouldn't be.

My problem with the HHOF is that it rewards longevity above sheer talent.

Like Gartner. Like McDonald.

Two more examples: does Cujo belong in the HHOF? Many think he does: top 5 in wins. But imho, he's a tier below. He was great, but he never was the best in the game

And one more example: Lindros.

There are many who think he shouldn't get the call - he was injured too much, his career was too short.

Too me, it's simple: for a period of time, he was the most complete player in the game. He could hurt you - literally and figuratively.

Can you possibly tell me you'd take Mullen or Gartner over Lindros?

- Atomic Wedgie


Under any criteria Mike Gartner is in the Hall of Fame. Gartner isn't being rewarded for just longevity. He is one of 6 players in the history of the game to score 700 goals. That is epic! Who I would choose as a better player out of any of those 3 is irrelevant to whether or not Gartner belongs in the Hall of Fame
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 25 @ 7:59 PM ET
I dont care if you have a lighting bolt coming out of Zeus's ass right there.

If he is in position he saves that goal.

- flyer_nutter


Kessel with a beauty!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 25 @ 7:59 PM ET
Very true.

This is the way the Flyers have played for most of the year. I expect next period to be all Flyers.

- stveshdy


Also, what are the other options? Don't really want to start back at square one in net again.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 25 @ 7:59 PM ET
Barkann really annoys the hell out of me.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Feb 25 @ 7:59 PM ET
He's been consistent for the most part. His save % and GAA aren't even close to League average, but a good amount of the goals he's allowed he's had little or no chance.

More recently, the soft goals have been increasing.

- PLindbergh31


He has been a top goaltender for much of the season.

He is starting to go into a bad stretch here.

The amount of big saves has been decreasing, and the goals that are save-able are going on. It goes back to the simply fact that for his salary he has to be a top guy. Not just someone who doesnt let in the weak poop.

I look forward to him bouncing back. He isnt the only one who had a bad period, the majority of the forwards werent skating and being put to sleep.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Feb 25 @ 8:00 PM ET
Under the current criteria, he most certainly is.

What I am saying is that if I ran the circus, he wouldn't be.

My problem with the HHOF is that it rewards longevity above sheer talent.

Like Gartner. Like McDonald.

Two more examples: does Cujo belong in the HHOF? Many think he does: top 5 in wins. But imho, he's a tier below. He was great, but he never was the best in the game

And one more example: Lindros.

There are many who think he shouldn't get the call - he was injured too much, his career was too short.

Too me, it's simple: for a period of time, he was the most complete player in the game. He could hurt you - literally and figuratively.

Can you possibly tell me you'd take Mullen or Gartner over Lindros?

- Atomic Wedgie


I must say, I miss reading your posts
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 25 @ 8:00 PM ET
Well, if he didn't hug the post (like he normally doesn't), that's not a goal.

The poor bastard can't win for losing.

- tangent_man


The problem is, it was kind of lazy technique. If he's got the paddle down, it's stopped.

Kessel made a heck of a shot, but it's a stop you need the goalie to make.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 25 @ 8:00 PM ET
I dont care if you have a lighting bolt coming out of Zeus's ass right there.

If he is in position he saves that goal.

- flyer_nutter


That knee down technique is what is taught now, and I dont think its solid at all. Same technique as Leighton used its passive and it sucks
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 25 @ 8:00 PM ET
Also, what are the other options? Don't really want to start back at square one in net again.
- PLindbergh31


Been doing it for decades. No biggie.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 25 @ 8:01 PM ET
He has been a top goaltender for much of the season.

He is starting to go into a bad stretch here.

The amount of big saves has been decreasing, and the goals that are save-able are going on. It goes back to the simply fact that for his salary he has to be a top guy. Not just someone who doesnt let in the weak poop.

I look forward to him bouncing back. He isnt the only one who had a bad period, the majority of the forwards werent skating and being put to sleep.

- flyer_nutter


Agreed. Wonder if fatigue is an issue. The Flyers poor start has taken away any margin of error they have. Laviolette simply doesn't trust the backups.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 25 @ 8:01 PM ET
He has been a top goaltender for much of the season.

He is starting to go into a bad stretch here.

The amount of big saves has been decreasing, and the goals that are save-able are going on. It goes back to the simply fact that for his salary he has to be a top guy. Not just someone who doesnt let in the weak poop.

I look forward to him bouncing back. He isnt the only one who had a bad period, the majority of the forwards werent skating and being put to sleep.

- flyer_nutter


That's a bad goal, no doubt. But he was pretty damn good against Winnipeg.
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