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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 25 @ 9:02 AM ET
This is true, but also the teams that have played less games will now have to deal with the extremely compressed sched the Flyers did early on. I suspect some of the teams the Flyers are chasing will throw away points here and there like the Flyers did in the 3 games in 4 nights or 7 games in 10 nights in 7 dif cities.
- Hextall271

I sure as heck hope so. I think we'll soon see other coaches on the hot seat trying to get their tired troops to respond to the fatigue the Flyers saw the first month of the season.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 25 @ 9:03 AM ET
I see that, but conditioning is only part of it. It's going to be hard to stay mentally engaged. Although I think some teams will be fine, some of them will fall back/injuries will happen etc.. Flyers keep playing like they have recently and get some guys back, I have full confidence that they can finish in the 6-8 spots.
- Hextall271


The only guys who are injured now are Read and Meszaros. Meszy will probably be ready to play in a week or so, Read nowhere on the horizon.

The Read injury really blows, just knew someone would go down with a severe injury before Hartnell got back.
BlowMonkey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.14.2006

Feb 25 @ 9:03 AM ET
nice write up. hope for a good game from both teams with a W for the Leafs never had anything but respect for the Flyers.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 25 @ 9:04 AM ET
Yes, will be a good game for sure. Having a little confidence after that win in the peg, Flyers should be primed for this home game. The leafs won`t be an easy match though, especially after losing to what was basically the Binghampton Senators! And can not count on the power play success they had against the Jets.
- cdjaakkola


The Flyers need to put together some games where they show some sort of consistency. The emergence of Voracek and BSchenn has been very pleasant to watch.

Also: Zac Rinaldo. Shutdown forward. Let that roll around for a bit.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Feb 25 @ 9:05 AM ET
The next 3 home game vs. Toronto, Washington, and a banged up Ottawa team, it is imperative that the Flyers get at minimum 4 points, preferably 5.

After the Ottawa game on March 2, five of the next six games are against NYR, PIT, BOS, and NJD. A brutal schedule.

- PLindbergh31



that could be the season right their if they dont do well...
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 25 @ 9:06 AM ET
that could be the season right their if they dont do well...
- Philly1980


yep. Come March 15 it will be a good indicator where this team stands.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 25 @ 9:07 AM ET
I sure as heck hope so. I think we'll soon see other coaches on the hot seat trying to get their tired troops to respond to the fatigue the Flyers saw the first month of the season.
- Flyskippy


Regardless, the Flyers have to take care of winning their games. If they do, it's going to even out and we'll be in the dance.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Feb 25 @ 9:07 AM ET
yep. Come March 15 it will be a good indicator where this team stands.
- PLindbergh31

It boggles m mind that Philly has been playing like this I had them pegged for the top of the east.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 25 @ 9:07 AM ET
I see that, but conditioning is only part of it. It's going to be hard to stay mentally engaged. Although I think some teams will be fine, some of them will fall back/injuries will happen etc.. Flyers keep playing like they have recently and get some guys back, I have full confidence that they can finish in the 6-8 spots.
- Hextall271


Totally agree. They need to get out of this home stand at 500. If they do I think they are in. And who the hell cares what seed. I like when their a low seed anyway
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 25 @ 9:08 AM ET
The only guys who are injured now are Read and Meszaros. Meszy will probably be ready to play in a week or so, Read nowhere on the horizon.

The Read injury really blows, just knew someone would go down with a severe injury before Hartnell got back.

- PLindbergh31


Well a healthy Mesz is who I am mostly referring to.. That will help the back end a lot. I hate losing Read too.. he's been fantastic, but what can you do?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 25 @ 9:09 AM ET
It boggles m mind that Philly has been playing like this I had them pegged for the top of the east.
- Yeti1181


Most Flyers fans saw the team as a 5th/6th seed type. Early season injuries hurt. I didn't see any prognostications that had them at the top of the Conference.
cdjaakkola
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.08.2013

Feb 25 @ 9:09 AM ET
Hartnell and Phaneuf will drop the gloves
- SuperSchennBros


Not without good reason, best not to play into that hand against Toronto tonight and stay focused on the 2 points.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 25 @ 9:09 AM ET
It boggles m mind that Philly has been playing like this I had them pegged for the top of the east.
- Yeti1181


You can't lose Pronger and Carle and replace them with Foster and Gervais and expect no drop off.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 25 @ 9:10 AM ET
Well a healthy Mesz is who I am mostly referring to.. That will help the back end a lot. I hate losing Read too.. he's been fantastic, but what can you do?
- Hextall271


Can't do anything but shake your head. Mezsaros will help, but he's going to have to shake off some rust, he's played very few games in the last calendar year.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 25 @ 9:11 AM ET
It boggles m mind that Philly has been playing like this I had them pegged for the top of the east.
- Yeti1181


Most peopl in here had the flyers pegged as a 5, 6, maybe 7 seed. The start has sucked but there are signs it's turning around
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 25 @ 9:11 AM ET
It boggles m mind that Philly has been playing like this I had them pegged for the top of the east.
- Yeti1181


Even going back to last year, they've had a hard time dealing with teams that play a real disciplined defensive style (read: NJD, Tampa). Also, they had some young players in pretty key spots who were playing like young players in the month of January.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 25 @ 9:12 AM ET
Can't do anything but shake your head. Mezsaros will help, but he's going to have to shake off some rust, he's played very few games in the last calendar year.
- PLindbergh31


Yep. We need mesz though as we can begin to slot the lesser defenseman correclty and limit their ice time. If we're in a plyoff spot, I can see Homermaking some minor moves at the deadline.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Feb 25 @ 9:12 AM ET
You can't lose Pronger and Carle and replace them with Foster and Gervais and expect no drop off.
- Hextall271

I figured they would have made a trade for someone they seem to be able to get good quality guys when the need it. Yeah losing pronger sucks big time no matter how much you hate a guy you can't deny wha that man does for a team.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 25 @ 9:13 AM ET
Regardless, the Flyers have to take care of winning their games. If they do, it's going to even out and we'll be in the dance.
- Hextall271

Oh yeah, the onus is on the Flyers to garner wins. They can't expect help from the other Eastern teams since they're all in the same infra-conference boat this shortened season.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Feb 25 @ 9:13 AM ET
Even going back to last year, they've had a hard time dealing with teams that play a real disciplined defensive style (read: NJD, Tampa). Also, they had some young players in pretty key spots who were playing like young players in the month of January.
- johndewar

Fair enough injuries are never going to help you.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 25 @ 9:14 AM ET
Yep. We need mesz though as we can begin to slot the lesser defenseman correclty and limit their ice time. If we're in a plyoff spot, I can see Homermaking some minor moves at the deadline.
- Hextall271


He will do something I'm sure. He's a proactive GM. I'm glad he hasn't rushed out and made a trade and overpaid for a rental player trying to replace the injured guys who went down early. I'm surprised he wasn't in on guys like Ellerby and Lokitinov. Those guys were given away.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 25 @ 9:16 AM ET
You can't lose Pronger and Carle and replace them with Foster and Gervais and expect no drop off.
- Hextall271


No doubt.

On the flip side, I like when Gustafsson has done for them so far. When Mez comes back, they should completely rid themselves of Foster if they can.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 25 @ 9:17 AM ET
He will do something I'm sure. He's a proactive GM. I'm glad he hasn't rushed out and made a trade and overpaid for a rental player trying to replace the injured guys who went down early. I'm surprised he wasn't in on guys like Ellerby and Lokitinov. Those guys were given away.
- PLindbergh31

Because we're near 50 contracts and it's better to get a dollar later than a dime now.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 25 @ 9:18 AM ET
No doubt.

On the flip side, I like when Gustafsson has done for them so far. When Mez comes back, they should completely rid themselves of Foster if they can.

- johndewar


I don't understand the Foster hate. He hasn't been great, but he's provided a little offense from the third pairing when he's played. He's got a big shot. Everything else he does is average to below average, but it's not like he's anywhere near as terrible as that bum Lilja.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 25 @ 9:18 AM ET
I was talking about this on Twitter on Saturday night: what do you think about trading a AHLer/late round pick for Simon Gagne? He was a healthy scratch on Saturday.
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