Well, Stalberg is one of the favorite whipping boys of this thread.

I think he is much better than that. He can take over games and stretches of games. Has maybe the best size/speed combination in the league. He can disappear for stretches, but to my eye that has been less and less the case over the last couple of years. He is pretty good defensively. Honestly, i think the reason the Hawks are even entertaining dealing him is they might not be able to afford re-signing him and a few other guys coming up this summer.
- John Jaeckel

How much do you think Stalberg will ask for? If Stan's willing to take on Neil's contract (1.9 million for the next 3 seasons) he must feel that Staberg will ask for a lot more.

Beware of the turtle, in this case, the Blue Jackets.
- LeftCoaster

They're no joke this year.

How much do you think Stalberg will ask for? If Stan's willing to take on Neil's contract (1.9 million for the next 3 seasons) he must feel that Staberg will ask for a lot more.
- DarthKane

$2.75 million per, 3-4 years I think would be the starting point. Problem is there's probably going to be a nice market for Stalberg and the Hawks know it because of the interest other teams have shown in him in trade.

$2.75 million per, 3-4 years I think would be the starting point. Problem is there's probably going to be a nice market for Stalberg and the Hawks know it because of the interest other teams have shown in him in trade.
- John Jaeckel

We have plenty of "skilled" forwards so I guess we could afford to sacrifice one for some grit. Frolik or Kruger could jump up and take his spot on the 3rd line.

Neil would be a good fit, but so would Smith

"It's in Mexico...little place on the Pacific Ocean. You know what Mexicans say about the Pacific ? They say it has no memory. That's where i want to live the rest of my life."
- philco28

Too bad that scene was filmed in the V.I.

Sorry bro...that's what it looks like....same thing happened to me when Chicago and Toronto were separated. Hawks only come to T.O. once every two years now when they used to come in 3-4 times a year.

- philco28

Yeah, that sucks too; used to love that rivalry too. Change is bad!

Too bad that scene was filmed in the V.I.
- Beaver-Warrior

It's amazing what the actual locations are versus the depicted locations in most feature films.

In Cold Mountain, North Carolina was actually . . . Romania.

It's amazing what the actual locations are versus the depicted locations in most feature films.

In Cold Mountain, North Carolina was actually . . . Romania.
- John Jaeckel

Toronto has subbed in for both Chicago and New York in movies. Vancouver has been used in lieu of just about everywhere.

They're no joke this year.
- grinder10

I agree

As JJ points out when your on a tear your not as good as you think you are and when your on a losing streak your not as bad as you think you are

Could be a one goal game tonight

Toronto has subbed in for both Chicago and New York in movies. Vancouver has been used in lieu of just about everywhere.
- NewToHockey

Toronto was New York in Cinderella Man. Vancouver was all of North America in the X Files.

A big part of this is up to about 7-8 years ago, the exchange rate was so favorable to the U.S. dollar, plus the availability of top quality crews and slightly cheaper union talent in Canada.

I used to shoot a "summer" promotion for Canadian Tire every March in Vancouver, which often involved outdoor locations/sets. Realy dicey there that time of year trying to simulate June, but it was doable because Vancouver is so mild relatively year round.

With Shaw getting no league discipling on the boarding, Elspen has dubbed them as the "ever so saint-like Blackhawks" in his new blog.
- NewToHockey

Hansen getting 1 game for his hit should mean Shaw gets 10 (exaggeration). It was a far more dangerous hit: 4-6. Anyone here think it was a good, clean hit?

Before this season, Hammer would've been one of the first guys I'd have thought to be dangled and traded. But the guy is in top form right now and has been incredibly solid playing with Oduya. I just don't think he should be traded right now especially with how much he has stepped up his play.

With Stalberg though, if you had watched him, you would see likely one of the fastest straight-line skaters in the league. The guy wreaks havoc on the forecheck against slow, plodding d-men and generally keeps his head in his own zone. You throw the guy on a line with a playmaker like Spezza and you've got potential for a lot of good things to happen there. His finishing did seem to improve over last season.
- prd797

Sens have plenty of players just like that, either on the roster or in the system....guys like michalek, greening, zibanejad, silfverberg, stone, etc. i can't see them moving a valuable asset and fan favorite for a player they have no need for.

Sens "weakness" is on D. Pretty much every good dman in the organization is either on the IR, nhl roster, or named cody ceci. And with gonchar as good as gone, and lundin unlikely to be resigned, the only move that makes sense for ottawa is to bring in a dman.

I'm in no way knocking stallberg, i just don't think ottawa has any use for him, especially not as a rental, and DEFINITELY not if the price is neil.

Hansen getting 1 game for his hit should mean Shaw gets 10 (exaggeration). It was a far more dangerous hit: 4-6. Anyone here think it was a good, clean hit?
- rdfred

Let. it. Go.

Sens have plenty of players just like that, either on the roster or in the system....guys like michalek, greening, zibanejad, silfverberg, stone, etc. i can't see them moving a valuable asset and fan favorite for a player they have no need for.

Sens "weakness" is on D. Pretty much every good dman in the organization is either on the IR, nhl roster, or named cody ceci. And with gonchar as good as gone, and lundin unlikely to be resigned, the only move that makes sense for ottawa is to bring in a dman.

I'm in no way knocking stallberg, i just don't think ottawa has any use for him, especially not as a rental, and DEFINITELY not if the price is neil.
- sensarmy_11

I actually think the Hawks have a nice stable of NHL-potential d prospects: Lalonde, Stanton, Dahlbeck, Johns, Clendening, Mattson, Paliotta, Fournier.

In light of how many quality D prospects the Hawks have, and the contract status of their NHL guys, I could see them dealing at least a couple of these guys. The "jewels" are Johns and Clendening, but there are a couple of boom or bust puck-movers and a couple of guys who look to have NHL games as stay at home guys.

Fournier is a guy I would be asking about if I needed a future top 4 d-man.

Funny coming from a team of divers, biters and hair pullers. And Elspen is the quintessential homer, I have never read anything but how great the Canucks are in relation to the rest of the league. And his blogs about what Luongo would fetch in a trade were beyond priceless, he completely dismisses reality in anything he writes so he can slant everything in the Canucks favour. Oh well, it’ll be interesting to read his explanation when the Canucks lose again this year effectively closing the window on any hope of their winning a cup with the current core group.
- paulr

Love this rivalry -- even when it brings out the delusional ones like yourself. All bloggers here are 'homers' -- what different would you expect? JJ is a Hawks homer -- so what? Trade speculations are what this site is about (aside from Canuck-hating: which I love) -- and most are removed from reality. If you've read Esplen's blogs, you'd see he pretty much always includes a section called. "respect your opponents". Is JJ "slanted" in the Hawks favour? Of course he is --and it shouldn't be any other way. Generally, your post is empty of substance -- but that's all right, too. There are all kinds here on HB.

Love this rivalry -- even when it brings out the delusional ones like yourself. All bloggers here are 'homers' -- what different would you expect? JJ is a Hawks homer -- so what? Trade speculations are what this site is about (aside from Canuck-hating: which I love) -- and most are removed from reality. If you've read Esplen's blogs, you'd see he pretty much always includes a section called. "respect your opponents". Is JJ "slanted" in the Hawks favour? Of course he is --and it shouldn't be any other way. Generally, your post is empty of substance -- but that's all right, too. There are all kinds here on HB.
- rdfred

Can't really think of any bloggers who don't tilt toward the team they cover. But it's all relative. And I can think of a lot of posters who can't remotely appreciate that last part.

I get tweets and posts here accusing me of "hating" the Hawks. Funny. I call Shaw's hit "dumb" and blindside—and point that out while engaged with some Canuck fan just now on ian's blog. Does that go into consideration? Of course not. Because if I also call Hansen dirty, I'm a homer. Congratulations, you've invented the "new" new math.

So while your post makes it all black and white, it's actually gray to the point where you're pretty much wrong.

I actually think the Hawks have a nice stable of NHL-potential d prospects: Lalonde, Stanton, Dahlbeck, Johns, Clendening, Mattson, Paliotta, Fournier.

In light of how many quality D prospects the Hawks have, and the contract status of their NHL guys, I could see them dealing at least a couple of these guys. The "jewels" are Johns and Clendening, but there are a couple of boom or bust puck-movers and a couple of guys who look to have NHL games as stay at home guys.

Fournier is a guy I would be asking about if I needed a future top 4 d-man.
- John Jaeckel

I obviously know nothing about your prospects, so can't even make a guess at a trade proposal, but i highly doubt the sens let neil go for a "maybe" prospect, unless there is another piece included. I'm thinking sens would want an "all around" type of guy, as they already have their puck movers (karlsson, weircioch, ceci).

IMO, if hawks and sens are talking, it's for a dman coming to ottawa.

Chicago's problem starts with Pierre Gauthier scouting anything. Don't let that screw the club!

Carcillo Toews Hossa
Saad Sharp Kane
Bickell Shaw Stalberg
Bolig Kruger Frolik

Saad will play the role of center but Sharp will take the faceoffs.

Carcillo Toews Hossa
Saad Sharp Kane
Bickell Shaw Stalberg
Bolig Kruger Frolik

Saad will play the role of center but Sharp will take the faceoffs.
- hawksbuzz

Really?

How so?

Kane is the vastly superior playmaker, Sharp is at least Saad's equal in that regard. And both Kane and Sharp have played more C (certainly in the NHL).

Cynicism aside, seriously, were these the line rushes today?

Chicago's problem starts with Pierre Gauthier scouting anything. Don't let that screw the club!
- Champ

Point taken.

Can't really think of any bloggers who don't tilt toward the team they cover. But it's all relative. And I can think of a lot of posters who can't remotely appreciate that last part.

I get tweets and posts here accusing me of "hating" the Hawks. Funny. I call Shaw's hit "dumb" and blindside—and point that out while engaged with some Canuck fan just now on ian's blog. Does that go into consideration? Of course not. Because if I also call Hansen dirty, I'm a homer. Congratulations, you've invented the "new" new math.

So while your post makes it all black and white, it's actually gray to the point where you're pretty much wrong.
- John Jaeckel

Oh. Be so kind as to show where I'm "wrong". I'm even sticking up for the bloggers on HB. They're all in favour of the team they blog for. I said nothing about Hansen or Shaw in this post. That was another one that has nothing to do with my point here. Oh well, so it goes.

I obviously know nothing about your prospects, so can't even make a guess at a trade proposal, but i highly doubt the sens let neil go for a "maybe" prospect, unless there is another piece included. I'm thinking sens would want an "all around" type of guy, as they already have their puck movers (karlsson, weircioch, ceci).

IMO, if hawks and sens are talking, it's for a dman coming to ottawa.
- sensarmy_11

Of the prospects I named, Johns, Stanton and Clendening are not maybes. They will all play in the NHL. Johns and Clendening are probably going to be second pairing guys.

Fournier is a high-ceiling junior. His "top end" as a defenseman is probably higher than Neil's as a wing. That said, that's the name of the game in dealing NHL talent for prospects.

Oh. Be so kind as to show where I'm "wrong". I'm even sticking up for the bloggers on HB. They're all in favour of the team they blog for. I said nothing about Hansen or Shaw in this post. That was another one that has nothing to do with my point here. Oh well, so it goes.
- rdfred

Could be you didn't mean what I inferred from your post. Like I said, homerism is all relative.

Hard to really be a homer when many fans of your team accuse you of "hating" your team.

Tell ya what, bud, other than calling Hansen dirty for the Hossa hit, what's your other "evidence" of my being a homer? Oh, saying Daniel might have at least invited retribution for a shoulder to jaw, blind hit on Keith (it's on tape)? Well, then Al Cimaglia of NHL Radio and Keith Jones (to name two) are homers, too, because they saw it the same way.

Or am I a homer for saying Shaw's hit was "dumb" and blind side?

Which is it? Enlighten me with something more detailed and supported than "our guy's a homer and yours is too."

In total agreement on Freeman and the great Hackman....and BTW...i'll stop whatever the phuck i'm doing to watch Glory....8 days a week.

- philco28

I know I shouldn't do this--but since you guys brought it up . . . . Great movie, Glory, but you should read U. VA historian Gary Gallagher's book linked here: http://www.amazon.com/Cau...agher+hollywood+civil+war

Also, mentioning Freeman and Hackman, how 'bout _Unforgiven_? Love that movie.