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joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Feb 24 @ 3:25 AM ET
gerbe has no spot in the NHL. he is not the 2nd comming of st. louis.

you have to score on the pp. if that top line is not gonna score every game then split it up and try to get secondary scoring. that top scoring line is useless if it is gonna play anything less than + hockey. we get caught with our 5/6 defenseman too much.

i see alot of good followed up by alot of bad. like you own'ed the game for a period and a half. had tavares pissed off out of his mind..............and you dont score on your pp's or play basic hockey. nearly every other team is playing d first hockey, your not gonna wow them with vanek and pommer. grind it out and score on your pp chances, untill teams recognize that you are not to be f..ked with.

my opinion we need 3 changes.
1. gerbe gotta just be gone forever. bring in flynn or adam.
2. leopold gotta be traded to make room for mcnabb
3. sulzer has got to go for mccormick. sulzer is good but not great. plus it will free up the log jam at d for more worthy defensemen.
joshs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: cheektowaga, NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Feb 24 @ 3:48 AM ET
tyler myers interviews are as good as gold. addresses the problems right to the media.

everygame is and should be a chess match in modern NHL. we are not gonna outskate teams with vanek and pommer. its a team game. we gotta grind them down till we get some goals.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 5:23 AM ET
I thought I was up late.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 5:34 AM ET
Going to be honest, I hate this team. The team after Dom left would beat these Suck Sisters 10 out of 10 times.

Was the coach part of the problem? Yep

Is the Gm part of the problem? Yep

Are the players the majority of the problem? 100% yes.


Ship Miller, Vanek, and Pommer out to the highest bidder and start over please. We deserve better than this.

Agree, disagree, don't care. I know what I see and what I see is a piece of poop hockey team run by a fan that has zero clue what he's doing.

This isn't drilling for gas, sports ownership doesn't work that way. Time to clean house. The people who support this franchise see that. Time to bite the bullet Mr. P. Lets face it, you bought a lemon.
billyk
Buffalo Sabres
Location: always lurking, seldom posting, NY
Joined: 09.03.2006

Feb 24 @ 6:44 AM ET
Going to be honest, I hate this team. The team after Dom left would beat these Suck Sisters 10 out of 10 times.

Was the coach part of the problem? Yep

Is the Gm part of the problem? Yep

Are the players the majority of the problem? 100% yes.


Ship Miller, Vanek, and Pommer out to the highest bidder and start over please. We deserve better than this.

Agree, disagree, don't care. I know what I see and what I see is a piece of poop hockey team run by a fan that has zero clue what he's doing.

.

- dadeadhead


agree with all this however, i want nothing to do with shipping players out and rebuilding if Darcy is at the helm

if they really want to turn this team around they need a GM willing to gamble (Dudley) and a coach who will get in these players faces and scream at them and make them realize there are consequences for taking a second off when they are on the ice (a mix of hitchcock and keenen) rolston seems like a good guy but he isn't striking fear into any player

and before anyone attacks dudley the guy has built winners wherever he went ottawa, tampa, chicago, etc
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Feb 24 @ 6:59 AM ET
agree with all this however, i want nothing to do with shipping players out and rebuilding if Darcy is at the helm

if they really want to turn this team around they need a GM willing to gamble (Dudley) and a coach who will get in these players faces and scream at them and make them realize there are consequences for taking a second off when they are on the ice (a mix of hitchcock and keenen) rolston seems like a good guy but he isn't striking fear into any player

and before anyone attacks dudley the guy has built winners wherever he went ottawa, tampa, chicago, etc

- billyk


Part of the problem of this year is the lock out shortened season does not provide time to adapt to a slow start. So after waiting 4 months for the season to start, it is over for some teams in the first 6 weeks of the season.

But, crazy to blow everything up. Need to step back and take a look at a larger view of the next few years. The first problem, apparently, is a lack of foot speed. This I find difficult because I have always thought of the Sabres as playing an up tempo style.

The second issue has to be the dressing room leadership. Something is going on that from the outside does not appear to be strongly supportive of a winning atmosphere. I really like Pomenville. Vanek is a stud, Miller was once the best goalie in the NHL. What happened?
billyk
Buffalo Sabres
Location: always lurking, seldom posting, NY
Joined: 09.03.2006

Feb 24 @ 7:06 AM ET
Part of the problem of this year is the lock out shortened season does not provide time to adapt to a slow start. So after waiting 4 months for the season to start, it is over for some teams in the first 6 weeks of the season.

But, crazy to blow everything up. Need to step back and take a look at a larger view of the next few years. The first problem, apparently, is a lack of foot speed. This I find difficult because I have always thought of the Sabres as playing an up tempo style.

The second issue has to be the dressing room leadership. Something is going on that from the outside does not appear to be strongly supportive of a winning atmosphere. I really like Pomenville. Vanek is a stud, Miller was once the best goalie in the NHL. What happened?

- spatso


the lack of accountability (leadership) has been a problem since Drury left, when teams lose GM's and Coaches get fired , that hasn't happened in Buffalo in 16 years, the players see that

the other problem is the Sabres missed on a ton of 1st round picks in the Regier era, a franchise can't survive missing out on all that top end talent, it's just catching up with the Sabres

foot speed isn't an issue, lazyness is the issue, can't win if you don't compete
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Feb 24 @ 7:42 AM ET
the lack of accountability (leadership) has been a problem since Drury left, when teams lose GM's and Coaches get fired , that hasn't happened in Buffalo in 16 years, the players see that

the other problem is the Sabres missed on a ton of 1st round picks in the Regier era, a franchise can't survive missing out on all that top end talent, it's just catching up with the Sabres

foot speed isn't an issue, lazyness is the issue, can't win if you don't compete

- billyk


Makes a lot of sense. Buffalo has always had good speed. But failure to finish your checks can make it appear as if you are always arriving late to the play. It was Greg Milne who made the comment during the Leaf game that the Buffalo team problem came down to "speed." Maybe the solution is a fast rebuild. Buffalo certainly has the talent to trade some top draft picks and prospects. The fans are sophisticated enough to be patient with a young growing team (like the Oilers) as long as they see effort and improvement.
goalfie11
Ottawa Senators
Location: Sens Army, NY
Joined: 07.13.2010

Feb 24 @ 7:51 AM ET
Guys I'm pretty shocked..at the start of this shortened season I thought the Sabres, honestly, were going to be one of the top contenders in the Eastern Conference.
This Ron Rolston has been a major disappointment thus far. Clearly has not been the breath of fresh air the team was hoping to get. What puzzles me more than anything is the lack of ice team given to Grigorenko. The Sabres management made the right decision in keeping him with the club, but to only be giving him 6 minutes of ice time is just ridiculous. Rolston should have come in and played this kid at center with Vanek and Pominville; given him top line minutes. Instead he's a healthy scratch in the first game with Rolston behind the bench, and he's only given 6 minutes the next. On the other hand, Paul MacLean is giving his youngsters the ice time and they are producing. Zibanejad, Silfverberg, the young defensemen are all contributing to the team's success, and I think Grigorenko should be "let loose." At this point, unfortunately, it couldn't get much worse at least.
The other thing I heard Rolston talk about was players taking shifts off and "breaks" between shifts. One way he could have fixed that problem was take the captaincy away from Jason Pominville. Good guy, but he doesn't strike me as a hockey team captain. Never has. Ott should at least be wearing an A for this team. I like this guy. I was at the Bruins-Sabres Friday night game and he was one of the only players I thought played a whole 60 minutes. He's a leader.
Lastly, I think Miller is playing some of his best hockey. He's been keeping his sorry teammates in games when really they shouldn't be. For a long time yesterday that game was 0-0 when it could have easily been a lot worse. I think Miller is probably one of the only players who came to play for the Sabres this season.
JerryKorab
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Elmwood Village Buffalo NY
Joined: 09.13.2007

Feb 24 @ 8:02 AM ET
I am an old man

But I was a kid back 75 76

I was so sad to see the Flyers Parade the Cup on our Ice
Such a wounded feeling

Its only a game I say
But today it sure feels like more than a game

Let Go Buffalo
rapperray
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Feb 24 @ 8:16 AM ET
I know you will all be glad but this team has me speechless..........
billyk
Buffalo Sabres
Location: always lurking, seldom posting, NY
Joined: 09.03.2006

Feb 24 @ 8:23 AM ET
I know you will all be glad but this team has me speechless..........
- rapperray


maybe it's an old guy thing but after all these years of watching the Sabres I feel totally disconnected from this team in a way I have never felt before
Tsyolin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: @TsyolinSounds, Rochester, NY
Joined: 02.19.2013

Feb 24 @ 8:34 AM ET
I've always tried to remain the eternal optimist for our team in the end but this year seems to be turning into a year of change so why don't I change up my attitude while we're at it. I've never ever wanted my team to perform poorly ever but now I hope they do just to prove a point to Pegula.

This team needs to clean house with it's GM, it's entire coaching staff, and a large amount of the team. Get some draft picks and rebuild this team from scratch, I don't care anymore how long it takes as long as something can be made of it. As long as Regier is at the helm it's basically the same crap, just a different day.
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Feb 24 @ 8:50 AM ET
I know you will all be glad but this team has me speechless..........
- rapperray


Where is your troll photo?
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Feb 24 @ 9:04 AM ET
I feel like you guys have a more talented team overall than the isles (besides JT). Miller played great, Vanek had 2-3 golden opportunities , on paper you have a mIddle of the pack roster.

But I agree, maybe it's time to start over

Myers, grigs, grigensen are a good start. Plus
You have some good prospects
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Feb 24 @ 9:34 AM ET
I feel like you guys have a more talented team overall than the isles (besides JT). Miller played great, Vanek had 2-3 golden opportunities , on paper you have a mIddle of the pack roster.

But I agree, maybe it's time to start over

Myers, grigs, grigensen are a good start. Plus
You have some good prospects

- Danformo


Your goalie was just plain Hot.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Feb 24 @ 9:46 AM ET
I am an old man

But I was a kid back 75 76

I was so sad to see the Flyers Parade the Cup on our Ice
Such a wounded feeling

Its only a game I say
But today it sure feels like more than a game

Let Go Buffalo

- JerryKorab


You will know how much it offends the hockey Gods when commentators say this Buffalo team has a problem with footspeed.

This is the team built on the legacy of Gilbert Perreault. Maybe the most fluid and beautiful skater ever to play the game.
TerryPegs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm not the enemy and you make
Joined: 01.08.2012

Feb 24 @ 9:46 AM ET
Pegula is a mess and this team is a mess, I'm not thrilled with Rolston and I don't care if it's 2 games or not. I've had enough of Stafford and Gerbe, enough of how bad the D is and enough of the excuses. They don't have enough talent on this team regardless what Ott and Myers say.
- SABRES 89

You left out Hecht

TerryPegs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm not the enemy and you make
Joined: 01.08.2012

Feb 24 @ 9:52 AM ET
I'll say this.
I was embarrassed for myself watching last nights game.
Losing to the Islanders 4-0 on home ice is about as low as it gets.




Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Feb 24 @ 9:59 AM ET
Just sitting here thinking about what comment I'd like to make about this team and it's just really difficult. There are so many areas that need to be addressed.

First and foremost, Darcy should not be the guy that makes the decisions on where this team is headed. A GM is needed that has balls and insight; someone that can think outside the box. He is DEFINITELY NOT that guy.

The defense needs to be overhauled. There are a few players that can help (Sekera, Hoff, Myers and maybe Sulzer) but IMO two stabilizing defense-first veterans need to be brought in to establish consistency and confidence. They need to be able to LEAD !!

Lastly, it's time to pull a Joe Thornton type trade AND a Mike Richards type deal. Considering this team has no character or commitment and the draft is a DEEP one lets move Miller/Vanek or Vanek/Pommer or Miller/Pommer for some high character/high motor guys that will give 110% on the 2nd/3rd line every night and get some high draft picks in the process.

I could deal with a suck-fest for another 3 years if I'm seeing effort and having fun watching games. It's time to be basement dwellers for a few years and work our way up respectably.

The hardest thing as a fan is to have a vested interest in a team, TO REALLY CARE, and see terrible effort and not have fun at the same time.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Feb 24 @ 10:01 AM ET
I'm 53 and have sat through every Sabre season since day 1. This team is a joke and an embarrassment to the great hockey fans of WNY. To own an NHL team you have to run it like a business first and fan second. When Pegula agreed to buy the team and closed the deal, he should have looked at it from a business perspective, not from a long time fan who was giddy about the French Connection.

His first job should have been to clean house and he didn't, and he pays the price atm. If he's serious about winning a SC for the fans, he should have shown some back bone and remove under performing employees Ruff, Regier and company, much like any business.

What's left? A team in it's current state of under achieving, over paid misfits and an interim coach who shouldn't be anywhere near an NHL bench. It's fine if you want to fire Ruff, just let Patrick run the team for the rest of the year and keep Rolston in Rochester. This is more in a long line of poor decision making and if it was a business, it would be BK.

As a long time fan I don't even care anymore who plays, how they play, who's on the first line let alone on the 4th line. They are a clueless or-gah-ny-zashun. Sickening!

end rant
TerryPegs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm not the enemy and you make
Joined: 01.08.2012

Feb 24 @ 10:07 AM ET
I am an old man

But I was a kid back 75 76

I was so sad to see the Flyers Parade the Cup on our Ice
Such a wounded feeling

Its only a game I say
But today it sure feels like more than a game

Let Go Buffalo

- JerryKorab

I 'get' what you are saying JK.
I feel I am not getting any younger either and yet I keep seeing year after year go by with no Championship.
Worse yet. Progress should move forward not backwards!
TSchiefer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Batavia, NY
Joined: 01.17.2013

Feb 24 @ 10:11 AM ET
Do you guys need anti-depressants?

Buck up. What's the worse that can happen now? They get shut out again?

Come folks, here's our shot at the top prospect.

Tsyolin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: @TsyolinSounds, Rochester, NY
Joined: 02.19.2013

Feb 24 @ 10:12 AM ET
You will know how much it offends the hockey Gods when commentators say this Buffalo team has a problem with footspeed.

This is the team built on the legacy of Gilbert Perreault. Maybe the most fluid and beautiful skater ever to play the game.

- spatso


Vanek - Hodgeson- Pommer is the new French Connection

badgirrl
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.21.2013

Feb 24 @ 10:24 AM ET
Just sitting here thinking about what comment I'd like to make about this team and it's just really difficult. There are so many areas that need to be addressed.

First and foremost, Darcy should not be the guy that makes the decisions on where this team is headed. A GM is needed that has balls and insight; someone that can think outside the box. He is DEFINITELY NOT that guy.

The defense needs to be overhauled. There are a few players that can help (Sekera, Hoff, Myers and maybe Sulzer) but IMO two stabilizing defense-first veterans need to be brought in to establish consistency and confidence. They need to be able to LEAD !!

Lastly, it's time to pull a Joe Thornton type trade AND a Mike Richards type deal. Considering this team has no character or commitment and the draft is a DEEP one lets move Miller/Vanek or Vanek/Pommer or Miller/Pommer for some high character/high motor guys that will give 110% on the 2nd/3rd line every night and get some high draft picks in the process.

I could deal with a suck-fest for another 3 years if I'm seeing effort and having fun watching games. It's time to be basement dwellers for a few years and work our way up respectably.

The hardest thing as a fan is to have a vested interest in a team, TO REALLY CARE, and see terrible effort and not have fun at the same time.

- Pairo11


the d has very few players id keep. hoff, sekera, weber (great 6/7th man) and maybe sulzer if he can fix the mistakes he's making.. thats it. Id let the rest go.
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