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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Feb 21 @ 10:06 AM ET
Kassian is going to have his bumps, but let's try and remember one thing Canucks fans: he's 22 and he has more goals this season than Hall and Nugent-Hopkins combined. Things could be worse.
soad_live
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Québec, QC
Joined: 10.23.2008

Feb 21 @ 10:14 AM ET
Done and done...
- Reveen


Cole for Paajarvi
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:15 AM ET
Cole for Paajarvi
- soad_live


I don't think Cole will ever be back in Edmonton.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:18 AM ET
Cole for Paajarvi
- soad_live

Not a (frank)ing chance. Guy is 33, overpaid, injury prone and knows how to disappear.

Plus he isn't sure if he wants to play in the NHL. We don't need a whinny female genitalia like him.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Feb 21 @ 10:21 AM ET
There are only a few guys who fit the size bill and are on the market. It's unlikely, for example, that Kreider is really on the market.

Chris Stewart - Has started to gel in St Louis, but the team could lose him and still be very competetive. They might be looking for a shakeup, or to improve their D-Core, which means the only player we could offer is Smid, which would be bad news for us.

Brian Boyle - Seems to be in the doghouse. Could be had for cheap.

Brandon Dubinsky - I dunno that he gets moved. The BJs don't necessarily have the depth at centre to make such a move, and they're starting to work together as a unit (I think our game may have been a catalyst). They're a building team that (I think) is further behind us, so short of a HUGE trade that involved Dubinsky + Johnson and Yakupov +, I don't see a deal to be made.

Cal Clutterbuck - Always thought this guy was awesome and has potential to play up and down the line. This year he seems to be relegated to about 13 mins a game which is a drastic scale-back for him. Maybe he gets moved from the new-look Wild who haven't proved what they can do yet. What does a guy like that cost?

Antoine Vermette - Not that big, but plays fairly big. Historically great in the faceoff circle and chips in 40+ points. Does he bring that much more than Horcoff does, other than Cap relief? Last trade deadline, he went for 2nd, 5th and McIlhenny. With two of our 2nds to play with, we could certainly work something out.

Taylor Pyatt - Another guy from the Rangers, less likely than Boyle to go, but more likely than Kreider. He's best described as pesky, and can play up and down the lineup. What would the Rangers need that we have? Honestly, outside of Boyle I can't see them tinkering until the trade deadline. I don't know they ditch Pyatt come playoff time, unless they were getting a significantly better offensive player (Hemsky). That's a fortune to give up though.
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:23 AM ET
Not a (frank)ing chance. Guy is 33, overpaid, injury prone and knows how to disappear.

Plus he isn't sure if he wants to play in the NHL. We don't need a whinny female genitalia like him.

- Lahey


Cole is the exact opposite of what this team needs.
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:24 AM ET
There are only a few guys who fit the size bill and are on the market. It's unlikely, for example, that Kreider is really on the market.

Chris Stewart - Has started to gel in St Louis, but the team could lose him and still be very competetive. They might be looking for a shakeup, or to improve their D-Core, which means the only player we could offer is Smid, which would be bad news for us.

Brian Boyle - Seems to be in the doghouse. Could be had for cheap.

Brandon Dubinsky - I dunno that he gets moved. The BJs don't necessarily have the depth at centre to make such a move, and they're starting to work together as a unit (I think our game may have been a catalyst). They're a building team that (I think) is further behind us, so short of a HUGE trade that involved Dubinsky + Johnson and Yakupov +, I don't see a deal to be made.

Cal Clutterbuck - Always thought this guy was awesome and has potential to play up and down the line. This year he seems to be relegated to about 13 mins a game which is a drastic scale-back for him. Maybe he gets moved from the new-look Wild who haven't proved what they can do yet. What does a guy like that cost?

Antoine Vermette - Not that big, but plays fairly big. Historically great in the faceoff circle and chips in 40+ points. Does he bring that much more than Horcoff does, other than Cap relief? Last trade deadline, he went for 2nd, 5th and McIlhenny. With two of our 2nds to play with, we could certainly work something out.

Taylor Pyatt - Another guy from the Rangers, less likely than Boyle to go, but more likely than Kreider. He's best described as pesky, and can play up and down the lineup. What would the Rangers need that we have? Honestly, outside of Boyle I can't see them tinkering until the trade deadline. I don't know they ditch Pyatt come playoff time, unless they were getting a significantly better offensive player (Hemsky). That's a fortune to give up though.

- Morris


Brain Boyle would be a great buy low player.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Feb 21 @ 10:25 AM ET
Here's what the Blues want for Stewert...

Klefbom & 2013 first rounder.

Here's what the Rangers want for Krieder...

Magnus plus Oilers 2nd rounder in 2013.

Here's what the Avs want for O'Reilly...

Gagner & Smid

Here's what the Hawks want for McNeil...

Hemsky


Oh it's true, believe it. The Oilers won't be getting any of these player that Cloutier mentioned unless they part with quality, not garbage!!

- newmy


for once i actually like some of your offers from edm stand point. no to stewart deal, yes to krieder and mcneil deal....a big maybe to the o'reilly deal, but i gamble and go with it. although i prefer to offer sheet o'rielly at $5m per and trade gagner asap.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:27 AM ET
Brain Boyle would be a great buy low player.
- Reveen

What the (frank) can we do to the back end in terms of a d-man that can move the puck and isn't a wussy?

Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Feb 21 @ 10:30 AM ET
Cole for Paajarvi
- soad_live

F off. Cole is a piece of poop and you can keep him. Puck Cole!
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Feb 21 @ 10:30 AM ET
What the (frank) can we do to the back end in terms of a d-man that can move the puck and isn't a wussy?
- Lahey

Jordan Leopold?
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:35 AM ET
What the (frank) can we do to the back end in terms of a d-man that can move the puck and isn't a wussy?
- Lahey


See if Buffalo would let Sekera go...
Hall Fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 21 @ 10:41 AM ET
Right winger. Ummm, Nail Yakupov is a right winger, as is Ales Hemsky and Jordan Eberle. How many smaller, speedster/sniper right wingers can you fit into a team's Top 6?

I'm starting to think the Oilers would benefit in moving Yakupov before the season begins. Why? Because, as I said, the one thing the team has plenty of is speedster/snipers on the right side. Yakupov could immediately bring you a star center with size or a top pairing defenseman.

I'll throw a name out there, even though this has been beaten to death: PK Subban. Subban has yet to re-sign with Montreal (although it hasn't been possible during the lockout), and Galchenyuk + Yakupov = Fun. This being said, I'm not sure the Oilers need defensemen. Think long-term. When Oscar Klefbom is playing next season, the Oilers will have the two Schultz's, Petry, Smid and Klefbom...a very solid Top 5. Eventually, all five will be pricey. You can only spend so much on D men.

The biggest hole on the Oilers roster is at center. More specifically, the team needs an absolutely beast of a 2nd line center. Someone who can score, hit, lead, and be scary. Which brings me to a name I've also mentioned in the past: Ryan Getzlaf. If you could get Getz signed to a seven-year contract extension at $6mil per, Yakupov + Gagner is a great deal for both teams. It might sound to some like an overpayment considering the stats Getzlaf had last season, but seriously... There's very few, if any, other centers currently in the NHL like Ryan Getzlaf. The concept of having him on the Oilers makes me tinkle. A Top 6 this season of Hall, Hartikainen, Getzlaf, Nugent-Hopkins, Hemsky and Eberle? Lights out.

- systemtool


I don't think anyone would be upset if Getz was signed and if he got 6 mil. I just don't think it will be that easy. I think Anahiem will keep him and to get him will take more than many teams are willing to give. Perry is more of a target but again I don't think the Ducks would get rid of him for anything less than our 4 young guys.

As for Nail, the guy is 19 and they have him playing a checking role. He is actually really good if you watch him and he will be amazing. I don't think anyone is thinking about trading him at this point. Our coach is new and needs to move Nail back to the second line and we are gold.

Our second line center is one of the few players hitting, he leads the team in scoring and is one of two centers that can win a face off. We wouldn't get fair market value for him and he is only 22. He could be amazing. What we need to do is put a big winger on the line like we have with our first line. Hall is one of our consistent hitters even though our center doesn't (Nuge is playing hurt though).

As for budget, with the exception of Justin our d is worse than Toronto's. If our D gets to a point that they are so great that we can't afford them, I would be extremely happy. But if you look at Chicago and what they pay their D and still 4 expensive forwards, I think we will be fine.
cowesy04
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 07.11.2010

Feb 21 @ 10:42 AM ET
Even though he's a Zorch, Clowe would be great for the Oilers.
- laughs2907


I agree with going after clowe he is gritty and puts up points...will be a ufa after this year too so we could get him cheap
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Feb 21 @ 10:48 AM ET
I agree with going after clowe he is gritty and puts up points...will be a ufa after this year too so we could get him cheap
- cowesy04


yes he will hit ufa, bc i think the sharks have organizational depth to let go clowe. depends what you think is cheap. tons of teams will line up for his services so that will drive his price up. he's paid $3.6m this season ending term, i say he still goes for $3m per and i would consider it over 3 years.
Hall Fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 21 @ 10:50 AM ET
I have not heard anywhere that NYR are shopping Del Zotto, if so it would start with a first rounder to get him.

I am all for the Leafs trading Dion! He is grossly overpaid right now and gets way to much playing time, going to get worn down. If he takes a drastic pay cut I would re-sign him, he is worth no more than $5 million per year I think. Not sure his worth to any other team but I assume it would include a first rounder.

- TML93


I think if Toronto makes the playoffs the price for Dion would be a top 6 forward. I think a young veteran like Hemsky might just be what they are looking for if he keeps playing the way he has been this season. They can make a run minus a d if they had an elite playmaker that has been to game 7 of the finals in return. Edmonton would over pay him for one more year and they would find a fair market value contract after that.

The Del Zotto rumor I was surprised about too because I thought Staal would be the one to get rid of. It might have just been Eklund that said it though. I heard it in the past couple weeks so it would be in his recent posts. My only other source is TSN so their is an off chance I heard talk on there (I have a medical condition that affects my memory). If you are looking for it though, check Eklund's posts. Still if I was NYR, I would trade Staal, they did good when he was out last year and his salary is the larger of the two.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Feb 21 @ 10:52 AM ET
Jordan Leopold?
- Morris

Could be cheap.

As for Sekera have to think his contract keeps him in Buf and if he is moved probably a few bidders.

Myers will be interesting. I don't want nothing to do with him, but if a new coach doesn't get him on track a trade will have to happen in Buf.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Feb 21 @ 10:54 AM ET
I agree with going after clowe he is gritty and puts up points...will be a ufa after this year too so we could get him cheap
- cowesy04

I doubt he would be cheap.

It would take MPS plus a conditional pick (based on whether he extends or not) at least. But then you still need to move Hemsky.

Maybe MPS, Hemsky, conditional pick for Clowe and Murray? I know...dreaming...
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Feb 21 @ 10:55 AM ET
I think if Toronto makes the playoffs the price for Dion would be a top 6 forward. I think a young veteran like Hemsky might just be what they are looking for if he keeps playing the way he has been this season. They can make a run minus a d if they had an elite playmaker that has been to game 7 of the finals in return. Edmonton would over pay him for one more year and they would find a fair market value contract after that.

The Del Zotto rumor I was surprised about too because I thought Staal would be the one to get rid of. It might have just been Eklund that said it though. I heard it in the past couple weeks so it would be in his recent posts. My only other source is TSN so their is an off chance I heard talk on there (I have a medical condition that affects my memory). If you are looking for it though, check Eklund's posts. Still if I was NYR, I would trade Staal, they did good when he was out last year and his salary is the larger of the two.

- bsteinley


the only place staal is going to is carolina.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Feb 21 @ 10:56 AM ET
I think if Toronto makes the playoffs the price for Dion would be a top 6 forward. I think a young veteran like Hemsky might just be what they are looking for if he keeps playing the way he has been this season. They can make a run minus a d if they had an elite playmaker that has been to game 7 of the finals in return. Edmonton would over pay him for one more year and they would find a fair market value contract after that.

The Del Zotto rumor I was surprised about too because I thought Staal would be the one to get rid of. It might have just been Eklund that said it though. I heard it in the past couple weeks so it would be in his recent posts. My only other source is TSN so their is an off chance I heard talk on there (I have a medical condition that affects my memory). If you are looking for it though, check Eklund's posts. Still if I was NYR, I would trade Staal, they did good when he was out last year and his salary is the larger of the two.

- bsteinley


Your Dion idea sucks ass.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Feb 21 @ 10:57 AM ET
I doubt he would be cheap.

It would take MPS plus a conditional pick (based on whether he extends or not) at least. But then you still need to move Hemsky.

Maybe MPS, Hemsky, conditional pick for Clowe and Murray? I know...dreaming...

- Iggysbff


i don't think your dreaming, but i think san jose don't want hemsky bc they have havlat.
Hall Fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 21 @ 10:57 AM ET
Just to give you some info. Rangers are not shopping MDZ. Would leave a giant hole in the D unit with noone quite ready to step in at this time. To get MDZ you'd have to part with Justin Shultz. Don't think you would do that.

Dubinsky can win faceoffs but is not a cheap 3rd liner. His cap and salary are 4M+ and he has a tough time finishing. Has a lot of grit and is a good role player and does a lot of good things on the ice but I'd look elsewhere for that amount of money

- climbdenali12


I didn't make up the MDZ rumor but your team has a bigger hole. It is called line 2, 3 and 4. The only way to address that with the stupid prices being paid for the under performing top line is to shed a dman. You guys figure it out because Edmonton's GM isn't going to trade for anyone anyways.

As for Dubinsky, I didn't see the salary. I thought he was getting 3. We might be able to wait till summer. If he keeps this up, the Jackets might buy him out.
Hall Fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.01.2009

Feb 21 @ 11:02 AM ET
Your Dion idea sucks ass.
- Iggysbff


True but it realistic. Edmonton has a tendancy to go after Canadian players when given the chance. Western Canadian to be more specific and Dion is from Edmonton. He has a terrible salary which makes him easier to acquire than many other dmen of his caliber. It is the type of player that Lowe loves. I would love to tell you I want Yandle, Weber, Doughty, Keith, Letang, Karlsson... but none of these are going to happen. Dion might be the only possible person I suggested as is.
Dean_Youngblood
Edmonton Oilers
Location: When I see someone with a Leaf, NS
Joined: 01.14.2013

Feb 21 @ 11:19 AM ET
Done and done...
- Reveen


Agree. Would make gagner available too. Not sure we should though.
Salvo
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.13.2009

Feb 21 @ 11:23 AM ET

- sanfordnson


deadly
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