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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 21 @ 12:17 PM ET
I don't need to. I already know that Lundqvist is a better Goalie. My point is simple. You made a comment in reply to a poster saying that he thinks Bryzgalov will get to .915 SV% this Season. You said to paraphrase, "oh goody League average". So with that statement, Lundqvist is an average Goalie.
- MJL

.......implying
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Feb 21 @ 12:17 PM ET
I compared them to about 7 of the top goalies in the game right now.. pretty much on par with everyone else.

Comparing Lundqvist and Bryz isnt realistic. One is the best goalie in the game, the other is a very good starting goalie.

- jak521

which is which?
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Feb 21 @ 12:18 PM ET
Bryz is the least of the Flyers issues. He's logged more time in net than any goalie in the league. 16 games in how many days? That's a pretty tough load.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Feb 21 @ 12:18 PM ET
I compared them to about 7 of the top goalies in the game right now.. pretty much on par with everyone else.

Comparing Lundqvist and Bryz isnt realistic. One is the best goalie in the game, the other is a very good starting goalie.

- jak521

and then there's Bryz
Number23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I get that a lot.
Joined: 02.11.2007

Feb 21 @ 12:18 PM ET
Decided to read what the Pittsburgh paper had to say about the game.

Only player quoted in the story was Craig Adams, their captain nowhere to be found in the piece.

Also, Dan Bylsma seems to have no clue how to prepare for a game:

"We got too emotional in the game, too involved with the extracurriculars down the line," Penguins coach Dan Bylsma said. "It took away from the game.

"That was something they needed, something they got involved in and got energy going their way. We knew it was a tactic they were going to use.


If you know it's coming (and you damn-well should after last spring) you might want to address it beforehand. Having a group of so-called tough players who are actually gutless pukes in (flimsy) disguise certainly isn't the answer (I'm looking at you, Tanner Glass and Derek Engelland).

Also, you might want to try to make adjustments during the game, like Laviolette did, taking away plays from behind the net later on in the game (Sutter's goal notwithstanding).

To their credit, the Pens fans who commented on the story were all taking their team to task, not female doging about the Flyers.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Feb 21 @ 12:18 PM ET
I doubt any goalie is a .920 guy in Philly the way they play D sometimes
- eayost

I saw a lot of hasek and he could do it even with a high school team around him. Wait... That's what he had in buffalo. Lol
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 21 @ 12:19 PM ET
I did acknowledge that Bryzgalov's stint in Phoenix inflated his career numbers.
- bradleyc4


I agree, but if he can save 91.5% of shots as a Flyer, that's the equivalent of a .920 SV% in Phoenix, IMO
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 21 @ 12:19 PM ET
Decided to read what the Pittsburgh paper had to say about the game.

Only player quoted in the story was Craig Adams, their captain nowhere to be found in the piece.

Also, Dan Bylsma seems to have no clue how to prepare for a game:

"We got too emotional in the game, too involved with the extracurriculars down the line," Penguins coach Dan Bylsma said. "It took away from the game.

"That was something they needed, something they got involved in and got energy going their way. We knew it was a tactic they were going to use.


If you know it's coming (and you damn-well should after last spring) you might want to address it beforehand. Having a group of so-called tough players who are actually gutless pukes in (flimsy) disguise certainly isn't the answer (I'm looking at you, Tanner Glass and Derek Engelland).

Also, you might want to try to make adjustments during the game, like Laviolette did, taking away plays from behind the net later on in the game (Sutter's goal notwithstanding).

To their credit, the Pens fans who commented on the story were all taking their team to task, not female doging about the Flyers.

- Number23



i watched bylsma's press conf after the game, he did say they talked about it... a good deal.

flyers are so deep in their heads its crazy
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Feb 21 @ 12:20 PM ET
I saw a lot of hasek and he could do it even with a high school team around him. Wait... That's what he had in buffalo. Lol
- SMS4016


Hasek is a generational talent on par with some of the most elite players of all time. No one is saying that's what Bryzgalov is.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 21 @ 12:20 PM ET


Anyone else hear the Consol Energy Center PA guy announce the Neal goal as being scored by "James "The Real Deal" Neal"?

How awful is that?

I swear when I heard that, I could practically smell the vinegar coming from my TV.

- johndewar


I heard it. First thing I though, "Oh, great, now their going to WWE-ify hockey."
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 21 @ 12:20 PM ET
Decided to read what the Pittsburgh paper had to say about the game.

Only player quoted in the story was Craig Adams, their captain nowhere to be found in the piece.

Also, Dan Bylsma seems to have no clue how to prepare for a game:

"We got too emotional in the game, too involved with the extracurriculars down the line," Penguins coach Dan Bylsma said. "It took away from the game.

"That was something they needed, something they got involved in and got energy going their way. We knew it was a tactic they were going to use.


If you know it's coming (and you damn-well should after last spring) you might want to address it beforehand. Having a group of so-called tough players who are actually gutless pukes in (flimsy) disguise certainly isn't the answer (I'm looking at you, Tanner Glass and Derek Engelland).

Also, you might want to try to make adjustments during the game, like Laviolette did, taking away plays from behind the net later on in the game (Sutter's goal notwithstanding).

To their credit, the Pens fans who commented on the story were all taking their team to task, not female doging about the Flyers.

- Number23



Pierre McGuire called that an adjustment on the Flyers part on one play where the Flyers outnumbered the Pens behind their net. But that wasn't accurate. The Flyers made that change in how they play defensively about 3 weeks ago.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 21 @ 12:20 PM ET
Bring back Gary Thorne w/ Clement
- bgratch


Love Clement, but not with Gary Thorne that much. On national broadcasts, Clement would overdo the anti-Flyers bias to ensure he did not seem partial to them. Thorne, on the other hand, seemed to have five favorite teams: The Rangers, Red Wings, Avalanche, Devils, and Stars. Called their goals a little differently than others'.

Of course, it's been so long now I'd be willing to give him another shot at calling NHL hockey. He was very good in the other games I've seen him do since the NHL & ESPN parted ways.

Is there any announcer that most people can agree on? I can't think of any, or at least not at the national level.
- NickTheKid87


Heck no.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 21 @ 12:21 PM ET
traded?
- vejim


All I have been able to establish is that maybe he hurt himself laughing at a danicng Olli Jokinen link?
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Feb 21 @ 12:21 PM ET
Bruins general manager Peter Chiarelli was in the press box at Consol Energy Center, taking in the Flyers-Penguins contest. It wouldn't be all that unusual, except this is the second time he's personally scouted the Flyers on the road this season. He also attended their Jan. 22 loss to New Jersey. Chiarelli's Bruins are in Tampa Bay on Thursday.

The Bruins are reportedly in the market for a third-line winger who can chip in offensively. Boston has upwards of $10 million in cap space. The trade deadline is April 3.

- nastyflyergirl

I wouldn't read to much into it. Teams always scouting other teams. These gm's talk to each other every single day. They know roughly who's Probaly available on each team.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 21 @ 12:21 PM ET
he was dreadful with names, though, and he's 10 years older now, so...

neemunuh
brendamore
once called paul ranheim "mikael renberg" for an entire game, etc.

- OrangeBlack27

Justin Williams was always Jason Williams when he was on the Flyers.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 21 @ 12:21 PM ET
I agree, but if he can save 91.5% of shots as a Flyer, that's the equivalent of a .920 SV% in Phoenix, IMO
- NickTheKid87

Since January 1 last season through yesterday game...

Bryz has a Gaa of 2.21 and a save% of .917 to go with 6 shut outs in 42 games played.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 21 @ 12:22 PM ET
I saw a lot of hasek and he could do it even with a high school team around him. Wait... That's what he had in buffalo. Lol
- SMS4016


Hasek but up at least a .930 SV% in 5 of his 9 seasons in Buffalo as well as a .920+ SV% 7 out of 9 seasons so, yeah he could have definitely hit the .920 mark in the Flyers' system. But he was one of the greatest goalies of all time.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 21 @ 12:22 PM ET
I think most Bruins fans hate him too.
- mayorofangrytown

NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 21 @ 12:22 PM ET
Since January 1 last season through yesterday game...

Bryz has a Gaa of 2.21 and a save% of .917 to go with 6 shut outs in 42 games played.

- jak521


I'll take that.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 21 @ 12:23 PM ET
I don't think I've ever heard a broadcast of his.
- NickTheKid87

He swindled me into thinking he was a good announcer because of his non-partial and very good national broadcasts on ESPN2's NHL 2Night games. Then I heard some of his local stuff from Bahston.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Feb 21 @ 12:24 PM ET
Fleury's at .909, Quick's at .916, Anderson at .915, Hiller at .917, Ward at .910, Howard at .916, Backstrom at .918 and Niemi's at .917 as well.
- NickTheKid87


Fleury's percentage would be a lot lower if they didn't rest him last night.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 21 @ 12:24 PM ET
You don't think how a team plays defensively in front of a Goalie, affects his numbers. Regardless of how well he plays?
- MJL


Of course it is, that's the main reason Brodeur is so good.

mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 21 @ 12:24 PM ET
Decided to read what the Pittsburgh paper had to say about the game.

Only player quoted in the story was Craig Adams, their captain nowhere to be found in the piece.

Also, Dan Bylsma seems to have no clue how to prepare for a game:

"We got too emotional in the game, too involved with the extracurriculars down the line," Penguins coach Dan Bylsma said. "It took away from the game.

"That was something they needed, something they got involved in and got energy going their way. We knew it was a tactic they were going to use.


If you know it's coming (and you damn-well should after last spring) you might want to address it beforehand. Having a group of so-called tough players who are actually gutless pukes in (flimsy) disguise certainly isn't the answer (I'm looking at you, Tanner Glass and Derek Engelland).

Also, you might want to try to make adjustments during the game, like Laviolette did, taking away plays from behind the net later on in the game (Sutter's goal notwithstanding).

To their credit, the Pens fans who commented on the story were all taking their team to task, not female doging about the Flyers.

- Number23

Where the hell did you come from?
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 21 @ 12:24 PM ET
i watched bylsma's press conf after the game, he did say they talked about it... a good deal.

flyers are so deep in their heads its crazy

- Crimsoninja

like the devs are in ours...
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Feb 21 @ 12:24 PM ET

- Flyskippy

ducebag fits here
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