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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Feb 21 @ 12:04 PM ET
can we all agree that Doc and Pierre beat the hell out of JJ and Coatsie?
- Dkos


Split the difference then....JJ and Pierre, cause JJ kicks the poop out of Emerick as far as sticking to the topic at hand: A Hockey Game.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Feb 21 @ 12:05 PM ET
Maybe part of the problem is Pierre is on the ice and Doc is upstairs by himself and nobody is there to prevent him from pounding drinks, sniffing glue and popping pills all damn night?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 21 @ 12:06 PM ET
Categorize it as you wish, but I follow the numbers. Not a gut feeling that contradicts the numbers.
- bradleyc4

I just see him as a very good #1 goalie. Something we have not had in my years as a Flyers fan. A career .914%...

To compare him to other goalies..

Marty Brodeur : .913%
Ryan Miller: .915%
Miikka Kiprusoff: .913%
Roberto Luongo: .919%
Henrik Lundqvist: .920%
Evgeni Nabokov: .912%
Kari Lehtonen: .915%
Carey Price: .916%
Sergei Bobrovsky: .908%
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Feb 21 @ 12:06 PM ET
You gotta make sure you put the numbers in context though. Statistics without context lead to trouble.
- NickTheKid87


Thank you.

I'll try to add further context to goalie save %.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 21 @ 12:07 PM ET
Categorize it as you wish, but I follow the numbers. Not a gut feeling that contradicts the numbers.
- bradleyc4



So you think that Lundqvist is an average Goalie? His SV% right now is .915. Which you said was League average.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 21 @ 12:07 PM ET
http://fuldans.se/?v=xapeifcwtg
- Dudestar

NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 21 @ 12:08 PM ET
Thank you.

I'll try to add context to goalie save %.

- bradleyc4


Different playing in front of the Flyers' defense than it is in front of the Coyotes' defense. Systems play a part whether you want to acknowledge it or not.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 21 @ 12:09 PM ET
i use the eye test
- Crimsoninja

You put a spoon over one of them?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 21 @ 12:10 PM ET
You put a spoon over one of them?
- mayorofangrytown

i have impeccable vision
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Feb 21 @ 12:10 PM ET
So you think that Lundqvist is an average Goalie? His SV% right now is .915. Which you said was League average.
- MJL


I was looking at Bryzgalov's career numbers. Would you like to compare them to Lundqvist's?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 21 @ 12:12 PM ET
http://fuldans.se/?v=xapeifcwtg
- Dudestar

Maybe I'm dense but who is that?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 21 @ 12:12 PM ET
Has there been any injury update on Read?
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Feb 21 @ 12:12 PM ET
I was looking at Bryzgalov's career numbers. Would you like to compare them to Lundqvist's?
- bradleyc4

..
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 21 @ 12:13 PM ET
i have impeccable vision
- Crimsoninja

Uh, yeah. I have stories that suggest otherwise.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Feb 21 @ 12:14 PM ET
Has there been any injury update on Read?
- Hextall271

traded?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 21 @ 12:14 PM ET
..
- kicksave856

+1
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Feb 21 @ 12:15 PM ET
Different playing in front of the Flyers' defense than it is in front of the Coyotes' defense. Systems play a part whether you want to acknowledge it or not.
- NickTheKid87


I did acknowledge that Bryzgalov's stint in Phoenix inflated his career numbers.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 21 @ 12:15 PM ET
I was looking at Bryzgalov's career numbers. Would you like to compare them to Lundqvist's?
- bradleyc4



I don't need to. I already know that Lundqvist is a better Goalie. My point is simple. You made a comment in reply to a poster saying that he thinks Bryzgalov will get to .915 SV% this Season. You said to paraphrase, "oh goody League average". So with that statement, Lundqvist is an average Goalie.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Feb 21 @ 12:15 PM ET
i have impeccable vision
- Crimsoninja

you are a visionary
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 21 @ 12:16 PM ET
I was looking at Bryzgalov's career numbers. Would you like to compare them to Lundqvist's?
- bradleyc4

doh!
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 21 @ 12:16 PM ET
you are a visionary
- vejim

ty
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 21 @ 12:16 PM ET
I was looking at Bryzgalov's career numbers. Would you like to compare them to Lundqvist's?
- bradleyc4

I compared them to about 7 of the top goalies in the game right now.. pretty much on par with everyone else.

Comparing Lundqvist and Bryz isnt realistic. One is the best goalie in the game, the other is a very good starting goalie.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 21 @ 12:16 PM ET
I did acknowledge that Bryzgalov's stint in Phoenix inflated his career numbers.
- bradleyc4


You don't think how a team plays defensively in front of a Goalie, affects his numbers. Regardless of how well he plays?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 21 @ 12:16 PM ET
Maybe I'm dense but who is that?
- mayorofangrytown


That had to be Olli Jokinen, right?
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 21 @ 12:17 PM ET
I just see him as a very good #1 goalie. Something we have not had in my years as a Flyers fan. A career .914%...

To compare him to other goalies..

Marty Brodeur : .913%
Ryan Miller: .915%
Miikka Kiprusoff: .913%
Roberto Luongo: .919%
Henrik Lundqvist: .920%
Evgeni Nabokov: .912%
Kari Lehtonen: .915%
Carey Price: .916%
Sergei Bobrovsky: .908%

- jak521


Fleury's at .909, Quick's at .916, Anderson at .915, Hiller at .917, Ward at .910, Howard at .916, Backstrom at .918 and Niemi's at .917 as well.
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