Who could be mean to O.J. Pistorius?
- Your_Mom

Less than that.

The Avalanche probably need defense and probably wouldn't mind replacing O'Reilly with a center. Problem is, they can't take Grabovski because if they could do that, they would have just paid O'Reilly already. Liles, they could fit. Familiar face, veteran and they need the help on defense.

The trick would be to find a team willing to take Grabovski and have them give up the additional pieces required to acquire O'Reilly.
Like I said though, three way deals rarely ever happen in the NHL anymore. Still something the Leafs should consider.
- Two_For_Truth

Yes, Two for Truth.

That sure would be the trick.

I would guess it would be one of rielly, Gards or kadri a first and a player like Biggs purcy or Finn
- The_Vark

Won't be that high. This is the same team that traded Stewart and Shattenkirk for Erik Johnson.

I would guess it would be one of rielly, Gards or kadri a first and a player like Biggs purcy or Finn
- The_Vark

Or a first rounder... but you would be looking at that from a sensible view...

No, you were sure it would cost Gardiner, Rielly, Kadri and a 1st. That's what you were sure of.
- Two_For_Truth

you guys need to read entire posts

he said "A" gardiner, rielly kadri and a first

which means "one of"

slow down on being condescending

Garbage stat that is not properly assessed in all rinks much like the hits stat, don't go by that, the numbers are exaggerated.
- LeafMan

This.

Won't be that high. This is the same team that traded Stewart and Shattenkirk for Erik Johnson.
- Two_For_Truth

You are making a lot of ifs... they don't have to trade him.. they can make him suffer and sit... until he agrees... it is not like they are forced to do this deal.

They want a return if he leaves.

Won't be that high. This is the same team that traded Stewart and Shattenkirk for Erik Johnson.
- Two_For_Truth

yeah and after a GM makes a dumb move they make sure the next one is a good one, ask Burke.

you guys need to read entire posts

he said "A" gardiner, rielly kadri and a first

which means "one of"

slow down on being condescending
- Dozzer

lol - whammy.

and its uG bruce, he knows everything hockey related, hes just never stepped on the ice himself!

you guys need to read entire posts

he said "A" gardiner, rielly kadri and a first

which means "one of"

slow down on being condescending
- Dozzer

Reading comprehension isn't what it used to be... thanks Dozzer for pointing it out.

Fair enough, and it would also be nice to get rid of garbo's 5.5 mill if we're goin to take on oreillys asking price

but i'm just taking ur three way trade and running with it

i would assume kuli has more value to pitt than anyone else if geno truly wants to play with him
- dragus84

Does anyone have him quoted saying this???

Seriously, where did this rumor come from..?

You are making a lot of ifs... they don't have to trade him.. they can make him suffer and sit... until he agrees... it is not like they are forced to do this deal.

They want a return if he leaves.
- DoctorNHL

Yes, they most certainly do have to trade him as this situation gets worse. This is like saying the Canucks don't have to trade Luongo. Yes, they do. Just a matter of time. It's pretty evident that he wants something that the Avalanche can't give it to him.

Yes, Two for Truth.

That sure would be the trick.
- Atomic Wedgie

Shame Houdini is not around.. could've used him in this case...

yeah and after a GM makes a dumb move they make sure the next one is a good one, ask Burke.
- big_dion

Must explain why they traded Anderson for Elliot, let Elliot walk for nothing then traded a 1st for Varlamov. Because clearly, they don't ever make more than one dumb move.

It is what they have asked for.. I am not saying that is what teams will give them..

If the Leafs can get him for spare parts like Liles, Mac A, Connolly, and a 2nd rounder... than do the deal...

but you are smoking crack if you think that will happen..
- DoctorNHL

You said it would take Kadri, Gardiner, Riley and a first rounder. If thats what you think they are asking, you're smoking crack.

Yes, they most certainly do have to trade him as this situation gets worse. This is like saying the Canucks don't have to trade Luongo. Yes, they do. Just a matter of time. It's pretty evident that he wants something that the Avalanche can't give it to him.
- Two_For_Truth

They would like to trade but if they don't get what they want.. it won't happen.. For Vancouver & the Avs..

as you have seen the Cans have done well enough in spite of the controversy... playing two goalies...

Neither team has to make a trade... they both want compensation for their assets.. even tho the Luongo contract might never see him traded.

Must explain why they traded Anderson for Elliot, let Elliot walk for nothing then traded a 1st for Varlamov. Because clearly, they don't ever make more than one dumb move.
- Two_For_Truth

you got that right Uggy poo!

You said it would take Kadri, Gardiner, Riley and a first rounder. If thats what you think they are asking, you're smoking crack.
- faceto27

No, he said one of those guys + a first...

Garbage stat that is not properly assessed in all rinks much like the hits stat, don't go by that, the numbers are exaggerated.
- LeafMan

Have you ever watched O'Reilly play? It's not a garbage stat. He's very astute defensively and is very good at creating turnovers through hard work. I guess Datsyuk's takeaways are a garbage stat too.

Does anyone have him quoted saying this???

Seriously, where did this rumor come from..?
- A_Tree

Fair enough, and it would also be nice to get rid of garbo's 5.5 mill if we're goin to take on oreillys asking price

but i'm just taking ur three way trade and running with it

i would assume kuli has more value to pitt than anyone else if geno truly wants to play with him
- dragus84

Fair enough, and it would also be nice to get rid of garbo's 5.5 mill if we're goin to take on oreillys asking price

but i'm just taking ur three way trade and running with it

i would assume kuli has more value to pitt than anyone else if geno truly wants to play with him
- dragus84

Kulemin had great value after he scored 30. Since then, it's probably as low as it's ever been. Malkin might want to play with him but the Penguins aren't going to give up a lot just for that reason.

You said it would take Kadri, Gardiner, Riley and a first rounder. If thats what you think they are asking, you're smoking crack.
- faceto27

Reading comprehension let me repeat what I said exactly: You said it would take "A" Kadri, Gardiner, Riley and a first rounder.

You can keep the crack.. not interested... maybe you can sell some more to Two for the Truth tho... because he couldn't read it right either.

Won't be that high. This is the same team that traded Stewart and Shattenkirk for Erik Johnson.
- Two_For_Truth

Too many teams calling for RoR for someone to steal him.

I bet the first team to put a good young affordable PMD on the table as the centrepiece going back gets him.

Think we can wrap Franson up in a Gardiner jersey and sell them on him?

You said it would take Kadri, Gardiner, Riley and a first rounder. If thats what you think they are asking, you're smoking crack.
- faceto27

With a shortened season, the only trades the Leafs should make would be the ones that rip-off whoever they are trading with...The off season will give them plenty of time to upgrade in vital areas of need...No need to panic right now...

No, he said one of those guys + a first...
- A_Tree

Thank you A Tree...