What the hell are you smoking?
- A_Tree

He's mention drinking blue Kool-aid while pointing out that Grabbo is making $5.5 million to be a second line centre, and Liles is a healthy scratch at $3.875 million, so why would any team trade something of value for them, when they could get them as salary dumps, or just sign them in the off-season if the Leafs buy them out?
- Atomic Wedgie

Those stitches across the back of your head by any chance?

No chance of that. Sutter is very important to their defensive game and they don't really need Kulemin that badly.
- Two_For_Truth

agreed... i don't see pitt giving us anything we need in return for kuli... but maybe we send kuli to pitt.. pitt sends something colorados way

and we throw in a prospect (not named reilly or gardiner) and 3rd to colorado

i realize its far fetched... but i'm doing my best ek impression

I know someone earlier was talking about how the Leafs haven't been playing well only been playing teams that were playing crappy, just wanted to add that, while true, you have to factor in the fact that we aren't exactly playing with our regular full roster to begin with.

So another way to look at it would be that our lesser roster has been able to get us a good amount of points and then in the next maybe two weeks we'll basically be adding back Reimer, Lupul, Frattin and maybe calling up Gardiner. That's like trading for a capable starting goalie, top line forward, top 6 forward and arguably a top pairing dman for what will amount to a bunch of AHLers. Not to mention they might actually have to trade someone (i.e. Liles).

You will have to give up a Gardiner, Kadri, Reilly... and a first rounder at the minimum to get him...

That is what we call selling the farm.

We have enough 2nd line centers.. don't need anymore...
- DoctorNHL

You are way off on what it would take to get ROR.

I wonder if the prison guards let him keep his blades...
- A_Tree

Without them he can still *bum* around...

You're new here, Two for Truth, but man oh man, if a guy by the name of Unholy Goalie was still around, he would absolutely rip you a new one for suggesting that.

He'd basically spit in your face while suggesting that was the dumbest trade proposalhe had ever read.
He's mention drinking blue Kool-aid while pointing out that Grabbo is making $5.5 million to be a second line centre, and Liles is a healthy scratch at $3.875 million, so why would any team trade something of value for them, when they could get them as salary dumps, or just sign them in the off-season if the Leafs buy them out?

Consider yourself lucky, Newbie.

Unholy Goalie would not have been kind to you.

In fact, he would have been an absolute douchebag.
- Atomic Wedgie

This is (frank)ing amazing .....

I am sure that will come down to a roster prospect, and a first rounder before it is said and done.
- DoctorNHL

No, you were sure it would cost Gardiner, Rielly, Kadri and a 1st. That's what you were sure of.

Different strokes for different folks.

Bixll couldn't imagine living in Toronto.

Atomic Wedgie couldn't imagine living in a small town in the maritimes.

You stating Perry wouldn't come here is just as off-base as someone else stating he is dying to come here.

We just don't know.
- Atomic Wedgie

Magic 8 ball says "all signs point to yes" there you have it.

Carry on and continue to ignore the age difference as well as the defensive and character aspects of the situation.
- Two_For_Truth

Grabo for me is a better defensive forward... and that is why he is always up against the other teams top lines... and has still scored points...

I am not a fan of his contract... but until you move that.. going to an unproven maybe could possibly and sell the farm to do so.. is not the right move.

It is the knee jerk reactions that have many overpaid players still attached to the Leafs...

Save the money.. buy Perry in the summer and lose no future.. and keep the 2nd line centers you have in abundance already.

Without them he can still *bum* around...
- Your_Mom

Mean!

Magic 8 ball says "all signs point to yes" there you have it.
- LeafMan

at a medium pace - adam sandler

If you're indicating that this spoiled kid has more character...
- A_Tree

Spoiled kid?

I know someone earlier was talking about how the Leafs haven't been playing well only been playing teams that were playing crappy, just wanted to add that, while true, you have to factor in the fact that we aren't exactly playing with our regular full roster to begin with.

So another way to look at it would be that our lesser roster has been able to get us a good amount of points and then in the next maybe two weeks we'll basically be adding back Reimer, Lupul, Frattin and maybe calling up Gardiner. That's like trading for a capable starting goalie, top line forward, top 6 forward and arguably a top pairing dman for what will amount to a bunch of AHLers. Not to mention they might actually have to trade someone (i.e. Liles).
- deerow84

It was me who said (well not exactly that - but similar) and I agree - being patient with some short term injury woes should pay off. I still think O'Reilly would be a great fit in TO and that we shouldn't just be content because the Leafs are doing well enough. The teams major weakness is still up the middle - healthy roster or not.

No, you were sure it would cost Gardiner, Rielly, Kadri and a 1st. That's what you were sure of.
- Two_For_Truth

He actually meant one of those mentioned above and a 1st, but it's okay.

Mean!





- A_Tree

Who could be mean to O.J. Pistorius?

Spoiled kid?
- Two_For_Truth

ug - at least bring back the avatar gif of wendel and dougie. this mask has gotta go, its for your own good.

Grabo for me is a better defensive forward.
- DoctorNHL

Absolutely no chance. O'Reilly, at a younger age, is already a far superior defensive player than Grabovski. By a wide, wide margin. At 21, he led the league in takeaways, is a very good penalty killer and is a better face-off taker.

It's not even close. O'Reilly is way ahead of Grabovski defensively.

No, you were sure it would cost Gardiner, Rielly, Kadri and a 1st. That's what you were sure of.
- Two_For_Truth

I would guess it would be one of rielly, Gards or kadri a first and a player like Biggs purcy or Finn

You are way off on what it would take to get ROR.


- faceto27

It is what they have asked for.. I am not saying that is what teams will give them..

If the Leafs can get him for spare parts like Liles, Mac A, Connolly, and a 2nd rounder... than do the deal...

but you are smoking crack if you think that will happen..

agreed... i don't see pitt giving us anything we need in return for kuli... but maybe we send kuli to pitt.. pitt sends something colorados way

and we throw in a prospect (not named reilly or gardiner) and 3rd to colorado

i realize its far fetched... but i'm doing my best ek impression
- dragus84

Kulemin doesn't have enough value. At least with Grabovski you could sell the fact that he scores points. Kulemin just looks like an average 3rd liner right now.

Absolutely no chance. O'Reilly, at a younger age, is already a far superior defensive player than Grabovski. By a wide, wide margin. At 22, he led the league in takeaways, leads his team in PK time and is a better face-off taker.

It's not even close. O'Reilly is way ahead of Grabovski defensively.
- Two_For_Truth

Garbage stat that is not properly assessed in all rinks much like the hits stat, don't go by that, the numbers are exaggerated.

Who could be mean to O.J. Pistorius?
- Your_Mom

No way he gets off. He's finished.

Kulemin doesn't have enough value. At least with Grabovski you could sell the fact that he scores points. Kulemin just looks like an average 3rd liner right now.
- Two_For_Truth

Fair enough, and it would also be nice to get rid of garbo's 5.5 mill if we're goin to take on oreillys asking price

but i'm just taking ur three way trade and running with it

i would assume kuli has more value to pitt than anyone else if geno truly wants to play with him

Absolutely no chance. O'Reilly, at a younger age, is already a far superior defensive player than Grabovski. By a wide, wide margin. At 22, he led the league in takeaways, leads his team in PK time and is a better face-off taker.

It's not even close. O'Reilly is way ahead of Grabovski defensively.
- Two_For_Truth

So you say... still overpriced.. we have 3 second line centers.. you want to add another...

and you think we will get him cheap... pass me what you are smoking.. because it has to be chronic...