why don't he "right" the Flames blog? Do you seriously not know the difference between right and write? This could be a good advertisement for telling kids to stay in school.
- ruttager17

It could also be use to deter mother from drinking when they are pregnant.

I notice flames fans dont use the same BS on Pits, Ott, Chi, and Ottowa.
- Aerchon

I can understand spelling mistakes in posting comments but continually spelling the name of the capital city of your country wrong is embarrassing. I mean...really?

In regards to Ottawa tanking - yes, it appears that they did that season (to draft Daigle) but prior to that they were just a bunch of cast-offs that were put together to just get a team on the ice. The Senators are actually one of the better managed NHL teams over the past 20 years (minus the Muckler experiment) and their latest rebuild has consisted of 1 brutal season where they shipped out a few decent players (Mike Fisher, Chris Kelly, etc.) and restocked the cupboard with prospects.

This is the path that the Flames should take - they have players that they can get good value for (Cammalleri, JBo, Tanguay) but like Ottawa they should keep their leader Iginla in the fold to be the pillar and Kiprusoff to be the defensive backbone of the team. Calgary has some pretty decent prospects and with a deep draft coming up they could fill their cupboard of prospects and be filled with just as much potential as the Oilers.

The Senators have proven (and are proving) with a solid goalie and a lot of hard working players that they can play with anyone. Look what has happened to them this season - last years 4th leading scorer (Spezza), a 35 goal scorer (Michalek), a promising stud defensman (Cowen) and the reigning Norris trophy winner are all done for the season and they still keep plugging away. This is all a result of character and a good goalie - something the Flames can easily replicate.

I see a strong similarity between the Flames and Senators and actually think the Flames are a little ahead of where the Senators were a couple seasons ago when they finished with the 6th overall pick.

The Oilers have some potential but I wouldn't say the Flames are all that worse off with some decent management. Let's just hope Feaster can channel a little Bryan Murray this season...

And please spell Ottawa right from now on... I can't believe that the school system in Edmonton has failed this person so badly... down right embarrassing!

Not really...If you live in Calgary and you are in the Oil business, you likely have met or have done business with them or one of their companies. Not like they are my buddies...
- Iggysbff

Doing Business with their companies does not mean you have a f'n clue about them or their business style. Paramount is not run like Perpetual nor like Trilogy... So the name dropping means nothing...

All I know is Oiler fans have allot of time on their hands because dear god these are the longest bloody responses I've ever seen...

As much as I am sick of hearing "Calgargy is a contender"

when will the flames get a goalie that can make a save?
- TheNugeIsHuge

Sorry but anyone's online name referrencing penis size especially one as young as Ryan Nugent-Hopkins should be brought to the attention of the child porn division of the Edmonton police service. You my friend need help...

As much as I am sick of hearing "Calgargy is a contender"
- beaumatters

No but someday CALGARY might...

As much as I am sick of hearing "Calgargy is a contender"
- beaumatters

Where did you hear that? I don't think you'll find too many Flames fans that will say that.

I'm sorry, are you a talent expert??

How many injuries has Hall had in his 1st 2 years?

Oh and Hemmer has only scored 77 once and cracked 70pts 2x.
- TandA4Flames

yea that's a successful career. Career .77PPG. Hall's been injured twice in his first two seasons, mainly because of his reckless style of play. He hits, he gets hit. Bartschi's soft and'll continue to get physically dominated until he inevitably gets sent back down to Abbotsford.

When will the Oilers?
- TandA4Flames

Dubey .918
Khabi .940

Kipper .870
Irving .883
Taylor .892
MacDonald .882

Doing Business with their companies does not mean you have a f'n clue about them or their business style. Paramount is not run like Perpetual nor like Trilogy... So the name dropping means nothing...

All I know is Oiler fans have allot of time on their hands because dear god these are the longest bloody responses I've ever seen...
- geta02it

I do business with THEM. So yes I know their style. I have regular quarterly meetings with them. So yes. I know them. I make presentations to them regularly and they question me regularly. I don't hang out with them.

No but someday CALGARY might...
- geta02it

that's legitimately a joke

Great blog.

Oilers have great team but I wouldn't want to see my team finish last 6-8 years in a row to maybe see my team being very good after the rebuild. Full draft rebuild is not always successful and it's not the only way to rebuild.

I think the Flames should trade 1 or 2 vet at deadline to get some draft pick but not a full rebuild.

I do business with THEM. So yes I know their style. I have regular quarterly meetings with them. So yes. I know them. I make presentations to them regularly and they question me regularly. I don't hang out with them.
- Iggysbff

Sorry guy, you know them in a boardroom. You do not know THEM.

Oilers are a joke and always will be. End of story.

Oilers are a joke and always will be. End of story.
- kingsfirstcup

From a Kings fan, are you serious? How quickly you forget where you come from Kings fan.

Dubey .918
Khabi .940

Kipper .870
Irving .883
Taylor .892
MacDonald .882


- TheNugeIsHuge

Thats fair. But I guess the Oilers have to make a bunch of saves when they give up the most per game. (33.6)
(ps. showing a statistic like this doesn't show the direction of the team anymore than yours does)

Ok. It will be long, but here is my blog "rebuttal" as you called it to your "rebuttal".


The Oilers never intentionally "tanked". Over the past couple years they lost most of their top players to extended injury. They did not go out and "replace" them with overpaid, old players or trade away picks for bandaids. That is not tanking. It's simply good common sense. Meanwhile Calgary traded away tons of picks for old, over rated, over paid players and gave them NTC's.

And although this is likely an inevitable circumstance for the current GM, he will not be taking the route of moving key pieces for picks/prospects which consequently leaves the Flames less able to fight for wins on a nightly basis.

We'll see. I bet he does...

So they have watched the last few years while the team has plummeted and have done what exactly? Where is this moving of assets for younger players that can immediately contribute...please elaborate?

Hmmm...So the same arguement as the Oilers the last few years...injuries. The Flames have also had the benefit of the easiest schedule in the NHL this year. They had more practice time which essentially gave them extra "training camp" over any other team.


Once again...The rebuild started 3 years ago. Taylor Hall was the first year. I guess the Flames have been rebuilding the past 3 years since they missed the playoffs?


Creating a losing environment in order to draft high is great, however does this environment have any effects on the team who had to play through it?

Again with the notion that they "intentionally tanked". Which is an out right lie and is simply Flame and other team fans sour grapes at the Oilers getting the high picks. You really believe that they "CREATED" a losing environment on purpose??? come on...

Give your head a shake. You want to hate the Oilers? Fine. But dont glorify the Flames and say they are any better or make poop up about how the Oilers have gotten to this point.
- Iggysbff

The Oilers never intentionally "tanked". Over the past couple years they lost most of their top players to extended injury. They did not go out and "replace" them with overpaid, old players or trade away picks for bandaids. That is not tanking. It's simply good common sense. Meanwhile Calgary traded away tons of picks for old, over rated, over paid players and gave them NTC's.

They have slowly faded into the NHL's basement, and have done nothing more, IMO, than draft high while there. Their attempts at improving their roster, I would argue, was nothing more than through the draft. They were more than happy...it seems...to sit pretty in the corner of mom's dark basement and wait while scraps were thrown toward them, in hopes that one day...they got strong enough to climb out. Again, just how I feel.

Jay Feaster wont be selling off the team and join their foes in the basement. Won't happen. Whether if its pride or job security, he wont accept loss in order to gain. He's said so far too many times.

So they have watched the last few years while the team has plummeted and have done what exactly? Where is this moving of assets for younger players that can immediately contribute...please elaborate?

Check age of team before Feaster took over...check age of team currently. He let a few guys walk and signed slighter younger players who can help now and down the road. Hes creating a "foundation" for his younger players to come into and eventually take over.

Hmmm...So the same arguement as the Oilers the last few years...injuries. The Flames have also had the benefit of the easiest schedule in the NHL this year. They had more practice time which essentially gave them extra "training camp" over any other team.

Not sure what was meant here...the point was simply that the Flames have been playing much better than their standings display. They have lost their starting goalie and, to their own fault, did not have a legitimate option to step in for the backup role. The Flames, like every other NHL team, had as many training camp and exhibition games as the rest. The difference is the majority of the league, unlike the Flames, had the same line combinations, systems, and coaching staff from previous years and the shortened season likely didnt affect them as much. Flames had a short amount of time to learn a new coach and new systems/style of game.

Once again...The rebuild started 3 years ago. Taylor Hall was the first year. I guess the Flames have been rebuilding the past 3 years since they missed the playoffs?

If the rebuild started three years ago, what was happening three years prior? What exactly was Edmontons plan for the past 6-7 years when they were not succeeding? If you say shooting for last and drafting high wasnt a plan...do you mean to tell me they had no plan at all?

Again with the notion that they "intentionally tanked". Which is an out right lie and is simply Flame and other team fans sour grapes at the Oilers getting the high picks. You really believe that they "CREATED" a losing environment on purpose??? come on...

Given the extent of time the Oilers have spent away from the playoffs, in the NHLs basement, and seemingly no fight from their team or GM...I do (in fact) argue that the team may have decided its easier to give in, then fight back. After a year/two of struggle and injury...it would appear that the managment team decided that given their success of late, it appears it may be in their best interest to throw in the towel for the season and take draft pick. The same was decided the next year, and the next. Are you meaning to tell me that the environment which would likely ensue from such decision making would have no effect on the team and staff members who took part?

Give your head a shake. You want to hate the Oilers? Fine. But dont glorify the Flames and say they are any better or make poop up about how the Oilers have gotten to this point

Reread the blog...perhaps you missed the parts where I said the Oilers would be a great team in a few years and that the Flames are beginning to struggle and change will be necessary soon. Don't pick apart my blog in your favor. I was fair to both sides...(perhaps outside of the tanking talk...because thats just my opinionated chirp...but take it for what it is).

From a Kings fan, are you serious? How quickly you forget where you come from Kings fan.
- gunner2233

From a Stanley cup championship?

I can understand spelling mistakes in posting comments but continually spelling the name of the capital city of your country wrong is embarrassing. I mean...really?

In regards to Ottawa tanking - yes, it appears that they did that season (to draft Daigle) but prior to that they were just a bunch of cast-offs that were put together to just get a team on the ice. The Senators are actually one of the better managed NHL teams over the past 20 years (minus the Muckler experiment) and their latest rebuild has consisted of 1 brutal season where they shipped out a few decent players (Mike Fisher, Chris Kelly, etc.) and restocked the cupboard with prospects.

This is the path that the Flames should take - they have players that they can get good value for (Cammalleri, JBo, Tanguay) but like Ottawa they should keep their leader Iginla in the fold to be the pillar and Kiprusoff to be the defensive backbone of the team. Calgary has some pretty decent prospects and with a deep draft coming up they could fill their cupboard of prospects and be filled with just as much potential as the Oilers.

The Senators have proven (and are proving) with a solid goalie and a lot of hard working players that they can play with anyone. Look what has happened to them this season - last years 4th leading scorer (Spezza), a 35 goal scorer (Michalek), a promising stud defensman (Cowen) and the reigning Norris trophy winner are all done for the season and they still keep plugging away. This is all a result of character and a good goalie - something the Flames can easily replicate.

I see a strong similarity between the Flames and Senators and actually think the Flames are a little ahead of where the Senators were a couple seasons ago when they finished with the 6th overall pick.

The Oilers have some potential but I wouldn't say the Flames are all that worse off with some decent management. Let's just hope Feaster can channel a little Bryan Murray this season...

And please spell Ottawa right from now on... I can't believe that the school system in Edmonton has failed this person so badly... down right embarrassing!
- PixelDoode

aha aha ahahahaha

OTT: 1 of 3 best D men in league, 1 of best 10 centres in league, currently one of top goalies in league. Playoff appearance last year. Has A+ prospects like Zibanejad, Ceci, and Silfverberg.

CGY: No D men in top 50. Iggy as a top 20 RW. Kipper on his usual down season. Missed playoffs last year. Has one decent prospect who can't stay healthy.

In what possible way would calgary be ahead of OTT?

aha aha ahahahaha

OTT: 1 of 3 best D men in league, 1 of best 10 centres in league, currently one of top goalies in league. Playoff appearance last year. Has A+ prospects like Zibanejad, Ceci, and Silfverberg.

CGY: No D men in top 50. Iggy as a top 20 RW. Kipper on his usual down season. Missed playoffs last year. Has one decent prospect who can't stay healthy.

In what possible way would calgary be ahead of OTT?
- TheNugeIsHuge

Ok smart guy, you may want to finish reading after the part you underlined. He said he thinks the Flames are ahead of where the Sens "were" when they picked 6th overall. Not where they currently are.

Hmmmm.....

#5. The flames have missed the payoffs 4 of the last 5 years? This is about the same time the Oilers decided enough was enough. You do not know if the flames will go full rebuild or not. You do not have a clue. If the flames tank this year I think common sense would be for them to go into a rebuild. And all this BS you and a few flames drum up about the "ethical" way to build a hckey team will make you guys into the biggest hypocrits in the game. I notice flames fans dont use the same BS on Pits, Ott, Chi, and Ottowa.

- Aerchon

"Dodge Duck Dip Dive and... Dodge"
-Patches O'Houlihan

"Dodge Duck Dip Dive and... Dodge"
-Patches O'Houlihan
- JCSabs06

Great article. Anyone who says the Flames should blow it up.. has not paid attention to the Calgary Flames.. or most likely hockey in general.

The Flames "rebuild" comes with moving from the defensive Sutter system to the offensive Hartley system.
The Flames "rebuild" comes with signing guys like Wideman, Hudler, Roman, and making trades which include possible future netminders like Ramo.
The Flames "rebuild" comes with knowing the trade value is raised on guys like TJ Brodie and JayBo, since the new system appeals to their uptempo game.
The Flames "rebuild" is supposed to show off the skill moving forward of guys like Sven (hurt), Backlund (hurt), Stemp, etc.

While the Flames record can't be argued with, the direction of the team can be. Once again I repeat, if a flames fan says "blow the team up" I really would question what kind of hockey watcher they are.
- j.henderson

yes, just keep doing what you're doing, everyone in Edmonton is on your side

Come on Tommy...When the blogger brings it on by stating blatant falshoods and blatant trolling he deserves all he gets. We regularly blast Cloutier for his delusions and idiotic posts, so I feel its only fair that Colin get blasted for this one.
- Iggysbff

You can disagree with him, as you did, and he can stand up for himself, as he did. You cannot call him names...

Them's the rules.

You can disagree with him, as you did, and he can stand up for himself, as he did. You cannot call him names...

Them's the rules.
- jtommyt

Just curious? Are you Calgary's micah? Ban for the lightest infraction by the "visiting" team and ignore when your own fans do as bad or worse?