F u c k off dude! Anybody can take hours to compile any info they want. When was this blog posted....

But AMO you should probably be a true analyst. Yet you waste your talents here.
- whipper334

but few a few minutes of light thought to dump blog
cheers

sometimes i wanna pull my hair out when i read these blogs and freak out at the so called expert writer.
but then i remember that's its just hockeybuzz. these bloggers are just fans of said team, with no more knowledge or inside info than the regular joe.
this would explain alot of this blog exactly.

the oilers only making the playoffs 2 times in ten years has no bearing whatsoever on a REBUILD. they were actively trying to make the playoffs all of those years prior to taylor halls rookie year. (or the TD prior to the draft to be exact)
which might even make it worse as mgmt was actually trying to succeed, but still failing miserably.
but this in no way was some sort of 'perpetual rebuild'

i dont hate on the flames for choosing their path. i admire them for attempting to put a winning product on the ice every year. however futile or not.

but, theres no real 'problem' with the oilers as colin put it. i think with his "the oilers have their core whats the problem" comment, colin neglects the crux of the oilers situation. aside from the obvious deficiencies (faceoffs, size, and defensive depth)
said core is 18, 19, 21, 21 and 22! these arent star kids meant for complimentary scoring to to help some vets stars. they ARE the go to guys.
when a 19 year old nuge runs into superstar vet datsyuk and gets outsmarted and outplayed, so goes the oilers night. and this still happens. frequently.

as an oiler fan its been incredibly frustrating watching these past few years, but we're not accepting of mediocrity. i think we got (and more importantly front office )sick of attempting to put a team together every year, signing fa's, making trades etc etc, to get into the dance, sometimes getting in, sometimes not. but NEVER a true contender.

what the oilers are trying to do might not work. there's anything but a guarantee. but i feel better about the hope, than the same old mediocre team year after year.

I just want to clarify that my blog was in no way directed at Colin and his blogs. There can be a healthy debate over the approaches used by both clubs. I am happy Colin wrote a blog in response presenting a different point of view and opinion.
- Maxbone

Hopefully it didn't come across as anything more than a rebuttal

Great article. Anyone who says the Flames should blow it up.. has not paid attention to the Calgary Flames.. or most likely hockey in general.

The Flames "rebuild" comes with moving from the defensive Sutter system to the offensive Hartley system.
The Flames "rebuild" comes with signing guys like Wideman, Hudler, Roman, and making trades which include possible future netminders like Ramo.
The Flames "rebuild" comes with knowing the trade value is raised on guys like TJ Brodie and JayBo, since the new system appeals to their uptempo game.
The Flames "rebuild" is supposed to show off the skill moving forward of guys like Sven (hurt), Backlund (hurt), Stemp, etc.

While the Flames record can't be argued with, the direction of the team can be. Once again I repeat, if a flames fan says "blow the team up" I really would question what kind of hockey watcher they are.
- j.henderson

offensive Hartley system

The Flames "rebuild" is supposed to show off the skill moving forward of guys like Sven (hurt), Backlund (hurt), Stemp, etc.


you are good

Hopefully it didn't come across as anything more than a rebuttal
- Colin Dambrauskas

it came across with much humour

as an oiler fan its been incredibly frustrating watching these past few years, but we're not accepting of mediocrity. i think we got (and more importantly front office )sick of attempting to put a team together every year, signing fa's, making trades etc etc, to getting into the dance, sometimes getting in, sometimes not. but NEVER a true contender.

- hugefemale dog77

I agree. The Oilers chose a different path. Edmonton fans had to go through the years that were dragged down by player disputes and people bad mouthing the city. The biggest rebuild that the oilers have made thus far has been making Edmonton a city where people are excited to sign or be traded to. The milestone of acquiring a guy like Justin Schultz because he wanted to play there.. is something to be celebrated on its own.

sometimes i wanna pull my hair out when i read these blogs and freak out at the so called expert writer.
but then i remember that's its just hockeybuzz. these bloggers are just fans of said team, with no more knowledge or inside info than the regular joe.
this would explain alot of this blog exactly.

the oilers only making the playoffs 2 times in ten years has no bearing whatsoever on a REBUILD. they were actively trying to make the playoffs all of those years prior to taylor halls rookie year.
which might even make it worse as mgmt was trying to succeed, but still failing miserably.
but this in no way was some sort of 'perpetual rebuild'

i dont hate on the flames for choosing their path. i admire them for attempting to put a winning product on the ice every year. however futile or not.

but theres no real problem with the oilers as colin put it. i think with his 'the oilers have their core'. whats the problem comment is neglecting the crux of the oilers situation. said core is 18, 19, 21, 21 and 22. these arent star kids meant for complimentary scoring to to help some vets stars. they ARE the go to guys. and for example, when a 19 year old nuge runs into a superstar vet datsyuk and gets outsmarted and outplayed. so goes the oilers night. and this still happens. frequently.

as an oiler fan its been incredibly frustrating watching these past few years, but we're not accepting of mediocrity. i think we got (and more importantly front office )sick of attempting to put a team together every year, signing fa's, making trades etc etc, to getting into the dance, sometimes getting in, sometimes not. but NEVER a true contender.

what the oilers are trying to do might not work. there's far from a guarantee. but i feel better about the hope, than the same old mediocre team year after year.
- hugefemale dog77

Though I'm no insider, this doesn't mean I have no credentials.

it came across with much humour
- all mighty oil

I like to think I write to please and sometimes teach/inform....so....

is only getting out of the first round once in 25 years better? if so you are a flamer
- all mighty oil

We don't need a timeout do we? I'm easy going round these parts...but my ref isn't always

resume please
link please?
- all mighty oil

k hold on, let me go make a pretty one.

Though I'm no insider, this doesn't mean I have no credentials.

- Colin Dambrauskas

i actually was editing some of the 'know nothing' comments while u responded. i didnt mean that. apologies.
it was actually a reasonable blog whether i agree or not.

my words were just trying to drive a point home, so i may have overstated.

i actually edited some of the 'know nothing' comments. i didnt mean that. apologies.
it was actually a reasonable blog whether i agree or not.

my words were just trying to drive a point home, so i may have overstated.
i just meant you're a dude with an opinion. just like the rest of us.
- hugefemale dog77

Won't argue with ya there!

I agree. The Oilers chose a different path. Edmonton fans had to go through the years that were dragged down by player disputes and people bad mouthing the city. The biggest rebuild that the oilers have made thus far has been making Edmonton a city where people are excited to sign or be traded to. The milestone of acquiring a guy like Justin Schultz because he wanted to play there.. is something to be celebrated on its own.
- j.henderson

well said

Hopefully it didn't come across as anything more than a rebuttal
- Colin Dambrauskas

I am 100% okay with what you wrote. I'm glad you responded with a blog. Debate it good

offensive Hartley system

The Flames "rebuild" is supposed to show off the skill moving forward of guys like Sven (hurt), Backlund (hurt), Stemp, etc.


you are good
- all mighty oil

Not really sure what your point is. ... that... you like to laugh?

I am 100% okay with what you wrote. I'm glad you responded with a blog. Debate it good
- Maxbone

Glad you're okay with it. God forbid you weren't.

CGY with games in hand and if I remember correctly, EDM was in a good position for part of the season last year until they fell off a cliff. Not sure I see any reason to believe it will be any different this year.
- TandA4Flames

EDM-6-5-3=14GP
Calgary-5-6-3=14GP

tell me where their game or even game*s*, as you say, at hand are

Not really sure what your point is. ... that... you like to laugh?
- j.henderson

thats why i keep coming back

"Anyone else sick of hearing “next year, the Oilers will be great”?"

Yea, I've been sick of this for about 3 years now.

Excellent article Colin. I very much enjoyed reading it. I liked your wording on certain things. It sure made me feel good about our organization "fighting" year after year instead of quiting in hopes of a "potential" great future.

When is Tambi going to get off his hands and try to supplement his "talented" kids?
- TandA4Flames

hard to consider a talent-less roster, fighting.

Norway'll fight the US. They have no chance, but they'll fight. Same thing with CGY making the playoffs.

Pretty sure Hall has 15 pts in 14 games while shooting 5.3 % rate, when does potential go out the window.

What is the peak for Baertschi? If he turns into Hemsky (points wise) i have to think you'd be pretty happy. I don't know if he will be as goof though imo
- Oil_Addict

Bartschi's already been injured twice this year. No way he ever puts up a 77 point season like hemmer. He'll top out at 50

Well Jones = Pronger with more mobility

NYI has poor goaltending, bad defence (good prospects though), and even worse depth than the Oilers.

NYI is an example of how to not retain value in trades, at least tambellini has let the team acquire talent by doing nothing, the time for action starts soon however.
- Oil_Addict

they've got pretty good forward prospects in their system too. Forwards: Tavares, Moulson, Okposo, Strome, Nelson, Grabner, Nielsen and Boyes. Doesn't seem like they have forward depth problems in the next 1-2 years

Difference between flames and oilers:

While the oilers have been sh1t for a long, long time, they've decided to start fresh with lots of young talent. All of this talent has gotten the oilers something. Potential. Yes, potential can turn out gloriously or horridly, but at least they're not doing what the flames are doing....

Flames: Gameplan for last 3 years has been, keep the same old roster and miss the playoffs just enough that they get the highest possible non-playoff-team draft pick. They take the same loop year-after-year of telling themselves they're just missing that one player, babchuk, morrison, wideman, dawes. Then after acquiring these players, they finish in the same spot. They have no potential to get better. Just the potential that their old roster will grow slower and weaker.

It's time for a change in Cow-town!

I just want to clarify that my blog was in no way directed at Colin and his blogs. There can be a healthy debate over the approaches used by both clubs. I am happy Colin wrote a blog in response presenting a different point of view and opinion.
- Maxbone

why don't you right the Flames blog, you're a Flames blogger...... ooopppps Not any more

Actually, CGY has played their games in hand and both teams sit at 14gp. CGY has also given up 51g tied for 3rd most in the league. Good to see you actually follow your team.
- ruttager17

What's your freakin' point.

When will the Oilers learn to score 5v5?

EDM-6-5-3=14GP
Calgary-5-6-3=14GP

tell me where their game or even game*s*, as you say, at hand are
- TheNugeIsHuge

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