Pretty sure Hall has 15 pts in 14 games while shooting 5.3 % rate, when does potential go out the window.

What is the peak for Baertschi? If he turns into Hemsky (points wise) i have to think you'd be pretty happy. I don't know if he will be as goof though imo
- Oil_Addict

Hopefully without the injuries... but yeah I'd be happy if that's how he turns out on a PPG basis.

Tambi will walk into tsn after finishing 19th and win the lottery with his 1.0% chance.
- Oil_Addict

probably right...
and STILL won't make a trade...

Both teams have been mismanaged. The Flames have painted themselves into a corner, and I'm curious how they get out of it.

I don't defend the decisions that the Flames have made, but I'm sick of hearing how the Oilers model is the template to follow when they haven't proven anything.

Colin, whats the rule on the bloggers taking shots across each others bow?
- geta02it

They're allowed to disagree, but they're supposed to abide by the same code of conduct as the rest of us.

probably right...
and STILL won't make a trade...
- geta02it

nothing wrong with seth jones

Ahhh... I love it. Funny how delayed this blog post was after reading what the Edmonton counterpart posted this morning. You know things are trending up when one side becomes defensive.

I realize that this blog is Flames-central, but some of the statements made have me shaking my head. Firstly, Feaster has "turned this team around"? If that were the case why have the Flames continued to drop in the standings since his hiring?

Flames fans like to poke fun at Oiler supporters as "living in the past". Really? I just read that in the last ten years the Flames have made the playoffs four times, the Oilers twice. Who's living in the past now. By the way, it would have helped to mention that out of those four appearances the Flames advanced to the second round ONCE. You're splitting hairs, mannnn.

My thoughts on a "rebuild" in Calgary. Season ticket holders and sponsors were mentioned while bashing the Oilers. During their past three dismal seasons they've sold every home game out. It appears that sponsors and ticket holders aren't going anywhere and are in fact quite loyal. So what does that say about the Flames strategy when trying to move forward. Me thinks that ownership believes that the threat of rebuild would send fair-weather supporters looking for other entertainment options. Loyalty, it's a tough find...

nothing wrong with seth jones
- Oil_Addict

again see Ny Islanders... cupboard can only be so full...

They're allowed to disagree, but they're supposed to abide by the same code of conduct as the rest of us.
- jtommyt

Are you a new mod? Never seen you before.

again see Ny Islanders... cupboard can only be so full...
- geta02it

NYI are on an Island, they are dealing with an unusual set of circumstances (Wang). With proper ownership and a GM that is allowed to spend, they'd be doing much better!!

Are you a new mod? Never seen you before.
- LeftCoaster

I've been around for a long time... it's just the title that's new and eye-catching...

They're allowed to disagree, but they're supposed to abide by the same code of conduct as the rest of us.
- jtommyt

All fairness our GM has a 5 year plan. We will see how it plays out. What people need to remember is it started with Hall, not with Pronger leaving Edmonton.

NYI are on an Island, they are dealing with an unusual set of circumstances (Wang). With proper ownership and a GM that is allowed to spend, they'd be doing much better!!
- LeftCoaster

and I live in Calgary and almost won Lotto Max this week... thats life my friend. You live with the cards you're dealt...

I've been around for a long time... it's just the title that's new and eye-catching...
- jtommyt

......

Pretty sure Hall has 15 pts in 14 games while shooting 5.3 % rate, when does potential go out the window.

What is the peak for Baertschi? If he turns into Hemsky (points wise) i have to think you'd be pretty happy. I don't know if he will be as goof though imo
- Oil_Addict

Potential will go out the window when he helps his team win. Personal accolades mean very little.

IMO the Oil don't need to make the playoffs but with absolutely no improvement in 3 years, that is as Colin described it- "the most unsuccessful, successful rebuild."

Both teams have been mismanaged. The Flames have painted themselves into a corner, and I'm curious how they get out of it.

I don't defend the decisions that the Flames have made, but I'm sick of hearing how the Oilers model is the template to follow when they haven't proven anything.
- Fotiu666

Nailed it!

Tambi will walk into tsn after finishing 19th and win the lottery with his 1.0% chance.
- Oil_Addict

And he'll think to himself, "Ah, another successful year!"

again see Ny Islanders... cupboard can only be so full...
- geta02it

Well Jones = Pronger with more mobility

NYI has poor goaltending, bad defence (good prospects though), and even worse depth than the Oilers.

NYI is an example of how to not retain value in trades, at least tambellini has let the team acquire talent by doing nothing, the time for action starts soon however.

Let me remind everyone of the code of conduct right now... specifically the "name calling" and "respect the blogger" parts...

This is your only warning.
- jtommyt

the was only for the word perpetual I thought it was funny

And he'll think to himself, "Ah, another successful year!"
- TandA4Flames

29th to 19th wouldn't be successful?

29th to 19th wouldn't be successful?
- Oil_Addict

9th in the West isn't so I guess it depends on where the bar is set. Its why i asked what the Oils expectations were on Cloutiers post...

Well Jones = Pronger with more mobility

NYI has poor goaltending, bad defence (good prospects though), and even worse depth than the Oilers.

NYI is an example of how to not retain value in trades, at least tambellini has let the team acquire talent by doing nothing, the time for action starts soon however.
- Oil_Addict

That really remains to be seen... he might have that kind of potential, but Pronger was an absolute and dominant beast in this league. Jones hasn't even played a game yet, far too early to be comparing him to Pronger.

the was only for the word perpetual I thought it was funny
- JCSabs06

Don't worry, you're good. It was a general warning, not directed specifically at you.

Potential will go out the window when he helps his team win. Personal accolades mean very little.

IMO the Oil don't need to make the playoffs but with absolutely no improvement in 3 years, that is as Colin described it- "the most unsuccessful, successful rebuild."
- TandA4Flames

Rebuilds take years (5) to come to fruition, it doesn't happen in a year or two. That's not realistic, even after Pittsburgh drafted Malkin and Crosby, who are generational type players, it took them four years to make a run at it.

Same goes for Mario, eight years after he was drafted they won. Takes time!

That really remains to be seen... he might have that kind of potential, but Pronger was an absolute and dominant beast in this league. Jones hasn't even played a game yet, far too early to be comparing him to Pronger.
- jtommyt

unless he's drafted by the flames

9th in the West isn't so I guess it depends on where the bar is set. Its why i asked what the Oils expectations were on Cloutiers post...
- geta02it

yeah i skimmed his blog, not too much substance in a blog like that