just thought it interesting. shero has always gone off the board with his trades, and almost always wins, so I found that interesting.
- ChrisMS

almost always.....let us not forget the Ponikarovsky and Kovalev experiments. Granted, we didn't give much up for either, but he didn't win on either trades.

EK saying IF perry became available, the pens and rangers would "duke it out" for him. Im sorry, but perry isnt going anywhere until after july 1st. Unless a team makes some completely ridiculous offer for him.

almost always.....let us not forget the Ponikarovsky and Kovalev experiments. Granted, we didn't give much up for either, but he didn't win on either trades.
- cap1681

correct... almost

According to Ek, the Penguins are willing to "duke it out" with the Rangers to aquire Perry from the Ducks.
- cap1681

i said it there too, would depend on whether ana wanted d prospects or o prospects

According to Ek, the Penguins are willing to "duke it out" with the Rangers to aquire Perry from the Ducks.
- cap1681

Thats dumb on multiple levels.

The Anaheim Ducks are the 2nd best team in the NHL, they arent going to sell off assets.

Even though the Hossa trade worked out great. Shero not having control over the main asset he acquired moving forward (UFA) left a bad taste in his mouth. It is on record that Shero wants to have some kind of control over the contract situation of players he trades for. Penguins arent going to deplete their prospect depth for a rental (Perry will cost a fortune in assets).

almost always.....let us not forget the Ponikarovsky and Kovalev experiments. Granted, we didn't give much up for either, but he didn't win on either trades.
- cap1681

poni was tearing it up for the leafs that year. On paper sticking him with malkin should of worked, but it just didnt.

poni was tearing it up for the leafs that year. On paper sticking him with malkin should of worked, but it just didnt.
- drummer829

Best part about the Poni trade was that we gave up almost nothing... Although Luca Caputi could have given Tangradi a bit of a break from the most popular "failed prospect" label lol.

Best part about the Poni trade was that we gave up almost nothing... Although Luca Caputi could have given Tangradi a bit of a break from the most popular "failed prospect" label lol.
- rival22

One thing Shero has exhibited is getting rid of failed prospects at the right time to bring talent back, except a 7th rounder for Big Dog.

Esposito was already in decline when he was dealt and then Caputi.

Best part about the Poni trade was that we gave up almost nothing... Although Luca Caputi could have given Tangradi a bit of a break from the most popular "failed prospect" label lol.
- rival22

Yea, that trade was a total wash now that we look at it 3 years later.

Anyways.... in NHL 13, my GM mode, the Dallas Stars signed Jonathan Quick, Fleury, and Lehtonen. All to long term deals at like 7+ mil. Best goalie trio to ever. I hate that game sometimes

One thing Shero has exhibited is getting rid of failed prospects at the right time to bring talent back, except a 7th rounder for Big Dog.

Esposito was already in decline when he was dealt and then Caputi.
- Oneonta Penguin

He's also been good at recognizing where someone's ceiling is at too (Whitney & Goligoski).

One thing Shero has exhibited is getting rid of failed prospects at the right time to bring talent back, except a 7th rounder for Big Dog.

Esposito was already in decline when he was dealt and then Caputi.
- Oneonta Penguin

I wanted a Tangradi trade for the last year and a half. Pens really pushed to make him work

I wanted a Tangradi trade for the last year and a half. Pens really pushed to make him work
- drummer829

That's gotta be the most frustrating thing about scouting/managing... You have a guy who did well in juniors, playing well and improving every year in the AHL, but then his progression plateaus. Caputi and Tangradi are both prime examples of that.

So am I to assume Despres won't be in the lineup tomorrow because Dan doesn't want to subject him to physicality?

This decision is baffling. The guy should be in there night in and night out.
- canadianpenfan

I am baffled as well.

I think the Pens main trade targets this deadline are probably, in descending order:

(1) 3rd-line grit/scoring: When I look at the 3rd-line as it has been for most of the year & is likely to soon be again, w/ Cooke-Sutter-Kennedy, it feels like Kennedy just doesn't fit anymore. Sutter is a defensively responsible C who can sporadically chip a few pts here and there. Same goes for Cooke, who also adds some grit to the equation. But Kennedy just doesn’t seem to fit well into the 3rd-line as he’s more of a shooter than either a defensive minded or gritty W. Without Staal to dominate the cycle in the O-zone & tire the other team out, Kennedy’s shooting ability just doesn’t serve much of a purpose.

(2) Long-term 2nd-line W: While most of the discussion of W targets has been centered around guys like Setoguchi, Kulemin, & other goal scorers, I think Shero will go more for the tough fore-checker type player. I mean, do the Penguins really need another guy who can shoot the puck when you already have Malkin and Neal out there? Whoever it is just needs to knock the puck loose & throw it in the shot where Neal or Geno is waiting to blast it into the back of the net.

(3) Short-term 2nd-line W: Like (2), but a short-term solution. Guerin/Fedotenko-type guy. Great now, but won’t be here in 2yrs.

I think the Pens main trade targets this deadline are probably, in descending order:

(1) 3rd-line grit/scoring: When I look at the 3rd-line as it has been for most of the year & is likely to soon be again, w/ Cooke-Sutter-Kennedy, it feels like Kennedy just doesn't fit anymore. Sutter is a defensively responsible C who can sporadically chip a few pts here and there. Same goes for Cooke, who also adds some grit to the equation. But Kennedy just doesn’t seem to fit well into the 3rd-line as he’s more of a shooter than either a defensive minded or gritty W. Without Staal to dominate the cycle in the O-zone & tire the other team out, Kennedy’s shooting ability just doesn’t serve much of a purpose.

(2) Long-term 2nd-line W: While most of the discussion of W targets has been centered around guys like Setoguchi, Kulemin, & other goal scorers, I think Shero will go more for the tough fore-checker type player. I mean, do the Penguins really need another guy who can shoot the puck when you already have Malkin and Neal out there? Whoever it is just needs to knock the puck loose & throw it in the shot where Neal or Geno is waiting to blast it into the back of the net.

(3) Short-term 2nd-line W: Like (2), but a short-term solution. Guerin/Fedotenko-type guy. Great now, but won’t be here in 2yrs.
- s0rcerer1984

Seto and Kulemin aren't exactly goal scorers anymore.

I haven't seen any Dallas games this season, but does Brenden Morrow have anything left?

Thats dumb on multiple levels.

The Anaheim Ducks are the 2nd best team in the NHL, they arent going to sell off assets.

Even though the Hossa trade worked out great. Him not having control over the main asset he acquired moving forward (UFA) left a bad taste in his mouth. It is on record that Shero wants to have some kind of control over the contract situation of players he trades for. Penguins arent going to deplete their prospect depth for a rental (Perry will cost a fortune in assets).
- Gunner Staal

Don't come in here using logic.

I haven't seen any Dallas games this season, but does Brenden Morrow have anything left?
- rival22

I usually will watch Dallas to watch Jagr, I havent really noticed Morrow out there, good or bad.

I would absolutely love to have perry on the squad but I think he's ending up with the team that gives him the craziest contract can't blame him gotta get that $$$$

Seto and Kulemin aren't exactly goal scorers anymore.
- Oneonta Penguin

Its the facet of their game that makes them a valuable comdity. I mean, no one is looking at either Seto or Kulemin and saying "They'd be a great addition due to their physial game & forechecking." They might be in a slump now, but each is a trigger-man/shooter at the NHL level.

I haven't seen any Dallas games this season, but does Brenden Morrow have anything left?
- rival22

His style of game gets less effective as you age and watching him play this year is the best example of that.

His style of game gets less effective as you age and watching him play this year is the best example of that.
- canadianpenfan

Yeah... I was just looking at UFA's this summer, and his name jumped out as a good fit for this team. But I'm picturing the Morrow from a few years ago, not the current one lol.

Yeah the Ducks would be stupid to move Perry at this point. I would love to see the Pens get him as a UFA though. I'd take Perry over Ryan because Ryan is from Philly.

I think the Pens main trade targets this deadline are probably, in descending order:

(1) 3rd-line grit/scoring: When I look at the 3rd-line as it has been for most of the year & is likely to soon be again, w/ Cooke-Sutter-Kennedy, it feels like Kennedy just doesn't fit anymore. Sutter is a defensively responsible C who can sporadically chip a few pts here and there. Same goes for Cooke, who also adds some grit to the equation. But Kennedy just doesn’t seem to fit well into the 3rd-line as he’s more of a shooter than either a defensive minded or gritty W. Without Staal to dominate the cycle in the O-zone & tire the other team out, Kennedy’s shooting ability just doesn’t serve much of a purpose.

(2) Long-term 2nd-line W: While most of the discussion of W targets has been centered around guys like Setoguchi, Kulemin, & other goal scorers, I think Shero will go more for the tough fore-checker type player. I mean, do the Penguins really need another guy who can shoot the puck when you already have Malkin and Neal out there? Whoever it is just needs to knock the puck loose & throw it in the shot where Neal or Geno is waiting to blast it into the back of the net.

(3) Short-term 2nd-line W: Like (2), but a short-term solution. Guerin/Fedotenko-type guy. Great now, but won’t be here in 2yrs.
- s0rcerer1984

I know Minny isn't getting rid of him, but thats why i always wanted Clutterbuck. Guy who throws his body around, can skate, and can finish occasionally. He would be great on either Crosbys or Malkins wing.

so is despres scratched for tomorrow too? need to know for fantasy lol