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LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Feb 19 @ 3:51 PM ET
It's just under 70%. Wang said it to Francesca last he was on. 70% of the season ticket base I should say more accurately
- Isles316



interesting...did he say how many season ticket holders there are?
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 19 @ 3:53 PM ET
no no no....thats a source that I refer to myself in the 3rd person.

source for "most tools" refer to themselves in the 3rd person please.

- LetsGoIsles

well let's see. you're a tool and you referred to yourself in the 3rd person so what else is needed?
Isles316
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island , NY
Joined: 01.15.2008

Feb 19 @ 3:55 PM ET
interesting...did he say how many season ticket holders there are?
- LetsGoIsles


No,my rep told me with the packages, it's almost 10,000. Something like 7,000 full
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Feb 19 @ 4:01 PM ET
what makes you believe staple thinks nino is a bust?...i agree that he is immature and could be trait bait...a bust? i think hes jumping the gun on that one...
- LetsGoIsles

From his answers, I don't think he likes him...
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Feb 19 @ 4:01 PM ET
I'm still not sure how the financial fogs lift when they get to Brooklyn. Suozzi already got him a better deal at the coliseum where he now makes money from the concessions and parking and other events. I really think he is selling the team.

It only makes smart sense about Brooklyn if the team gets there with momentum. Right now, the team has been stuck in mud with almost zero improvement in 6 seasons. Also, 70% of the fan base is in Nassau and Suffolk. It's going to hurt attendance.

- Isles316


While Wang got a 'nearly full share' of concessions on the renegotiated lease, the Isles are still forced to pay SMG a percentage of their net operating income. In addtion, SMG receives 40% of all Islanders advertising income, and roughly 15% of all gate income (this is more than any NHL team in the league). Presumably, the combination of a more successful franchise, better venue, better lease deal and marketing income should change the fortunes. It's also why I say it won't be in Wang's interest to remain a tight-wad or sell at this stage.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 19 @ 4:08 PM ET
From his answers, I don't think he likes him...
- kear20


Lets be honest Staple is a glorified Dee. He has no idea what's going on. He continues to write puff pieces and never really writes anything bad about them. He might as well write for their website
Isles316
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island , NY
Joined: 01.15.2008

Feb 19 @ 4:08 PM ET
While Wang got a 'nearly full share' of concessions on the renegotiated lease, the Isles are still forced to pay SMG a percentage of their net operating income. In addtion, SMG receives 40% of all Islanders advertising income, and roughly 15% of all gate income (this is more than any NHL team in the league). Presumably, the combination of a more successful franchise, better venue, better lease deal and marketing income should change the fortunes. It's also why I say it won't be in Wang's interest to remain a tight-wad or sell at this stage.
- keaner17


We will see. Both arguments from you and I make sense. I think it's impossible to know for sure what's going to happen. For me, I just haven't seen any evidence that tells me Wang will all of a sudden start running this team like a pro sports team should be run no matter what the circumstances. If he decided to invest 6-$10 mill more on personel/coaching/staff and the isles made the playoffs two of the next 3 years, he would make it back. Playoffs bring in lots of revenue
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Feb 19 @ 4:11 PM ET
Lets be honest Staple is a glorified Dee. He has no idea what's going on. He continues to write puff pieces and never really writes anything bad about them. He might as well write for their website
- Vukota



On the Live Chat with Vukota, he said he thinks Staple's a bust.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 19 @ 4:17 PM ET
On the Live Chat with Vukota, he said he thinks Staple's a bust.
- UIF

Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Feb 19 @ 4:24 PM ET
that was very interesting comment on Jon Persson. Its funny b/c i was on the soundtigers site and first thing i noticed is how Persson is catching up to Nino in goals and had 10 games less played then him.

The Swedes - Ullstrom, Persson and Sundstrom are the guys with the + ratings.

Still understand how cappy thinks ullstrom still has alot to learn when he has outplayed KO, Aucoin, Boyes.

Another thing is I dont think Isles give MATT MARTIN enough credit. He is way more gifted of a offensive player than this staff thinks.

You want to shuffle the lines. Put Martin or Ullstrom in that top RW spot for few games.
Mr.Black
New York Islanders
Location: My sources are my thoughts, ON
Joined: 11.09.2007

Feb 19 @ 4:25 PM ET
nervous about tonight's game. Should be interesting to see how the team responds.
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Feb 19 @ 4:36 PM ET
Has anyone else here lost interest in what AUCOIN brings to this team.

After amzing start he is completely invisible. his Winning % in faceoff has fallen 55%. Bailey and Ullstrom, have higher % even but have take far less.

I think it would be great if Bailey can Establish himself as the #2 Center again.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 19 @ 4:38 PM ET
I just went back and ready the transcript from the live chat and i'm even more convinced Staple has no clue.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 19 @ 4:39 PM ET
Has anyone else here lost interest in what AUCOIN brings to this team.

After amzing start he is completely invisible. his Winning % in faceoff has fallen 55%. Bailey and Ullstrom, have higher % even but have take far less.

I think it would be great if Bailey can Establish himself as the #2 Center again.

- Spartiarti



There is a reason why Aucoin is a career minor leaguer, well except when he comes here
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 19 @ 4:40 PM ET
nervous about tonight's game. Should be interesting to see how the team responds.
- Mr.Black


6-2 Sens. DP gives up 4 horrific goals and stares at his D-men after each one like its their fault. Cappy says they played hard and that will be that. Nothing changes
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Feb 19 @ 4:41 PM ET
Has anyone else here lost interest in what AUCOIN brings to this team.

After amzing start he is completely invisible. his Winning % in faceoff has fallen 55%. Bailey and Ullstrom, have higher % even but have take far less.

I think it would be great if Bailey can Establish himself as the #2 Center again.

- Spartiarti



im still trying to figure out what he ever brought....
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Feb 19 @ 4:44 PM ET
Has anyone else here lost interest in what AUCOIN brings to this team.

After amzing start he is completely invisible. his Winning % in faceoff has fallen 55%. Bailey and Ullstrom, have higher % even but have take far less.

I think it would be great if Bailey can Establish himself as the #2 Center again.

- Spartiarti



Reasoner being waived will keep him up for a bit.

But yea... he brings nothing to the table right now.

jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Feb 19 @ 4:45 PM ET
I do agree with Nino being immature... but I think we all realize that...
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Feb 19 @ 4:50 PM ET
im still trying to figure out what he ever brought....
- LetsGoIsles

3 goals in his first two games...since then...Nada
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Feb 19 @ 4:50 PM ET
6-2 Sens. DP gives up 4 horrific goals and stares at his D-men after each one like its their fault. Cappy says they played hard and that will be that. Nothing changes
- Vukota





UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Feb 19 @ 4:50 PM ET
that was very interesting comment on Jon Persson. Its funny b/c i was on the soundtigers site and first thing i noticed is how Persson is catching up to Nino in goals and had 10 games less played then him.

The Swedes - Ullstrom, Persson and Sundstrom are the guys with the + ratings.

Still understand how cappy thinks ullstrom still has alot to learn when he has outplayed KO, Aucoin, Boyes.

Another thing is I dont think Isles give MATT MARTIN enough credit. He is way more gifted of a offensive player than this staff thinks.

You want to shuffle the lines. Put Martin or Ullstrom in that top RW spot for few games.

- Spartiarti


Persson has not played 10 fewer games than Nino. In fact he's played in one additional game. That said, Persson can finish very well around the net, and is decent along the boards, but he's got quite a bit of work to do on his skating. I don't know how effective he'd be in the NHL until he improves there. Nino is a much better all-around player even at this stage. I think you guys will be surprised at Nino's development next time you see him in the NHL, whenever that is. Not a finished product, but he's not the same player as last season either.

Nino and Nelson still look like the best forwards out there, although with the lineup they've been icing, it's been a bit tougher watching the games lately. Halmo on the first line, Watkins centering the second line...top six will look better once Sundstrom's healthy again.
Charlie21
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 10.14.2009

Feb 19 @ 4:51 PM ET
6-2 Sens. DP gives up 4 horrific goals and stares at his D-men after each one like its their fault. Cappy says they played hard and that will be that. Nothing changes
- Vukota




Cappy will comment on how he liked their battle level.
Charlie21
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 10.14.2009

Feb 19 @ 4:52 PM ET
nervous about tonight's game. Should be interesting to see how the team responds.
- Mr.Black


DP's in net. Set your expectations low and there will be nothing to be nervous about.
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Feb 19 @ 4:54 PM ET
Persson has not played 10 fewer games than Nino. In fact he's played in one additional game. That said, Persson can finish very well around the net, and is decent along the boards, but he's got quite a bit of work to do on his skating. I don't know how effective he'd be in the NHL until he improves there. Nino is a much better all-around player even at this stage. I think you guys will be surprised at Nino's development next time you see him in the NHL, whenever that is. Not a finished product, but he's not the same player as last season either.

Nino and Nelson still look like the best forwards out there, although with the lineup they've been icing, it's been a bit tougher watching the games lately. Halmo on the first line, Watkins centering the second line...top six will look better once Sundstrom's healthy again.

- UIF




My bad. Your right, It was nelson that was catching up to Nino in production and it was sundstrom that has 10 less games and starting to do better.
Persson just been hotter as of late. feels like Nino been stuck around 20 goals for while and every time i read a story nino was either the extra goal in blowout or the empty netter.
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Feb 19 @ 4:57 PM ET
My bad. Your right, It was nelson that was catching up to Nino in production and it was sundstrom that has 10 less games and starting to do better.
Persson just been hotter as of late. feels like Nino been stuck around 20 goals for while and every time i read a story nino was either the extra goal in blowout or the empty netter.

- Spartiarti



Is Nino still whining?

Acting like a baby and sulking affects your game!!!

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