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UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Feb 19 @ 12:47 PM ET
That suspension was mandatory by the CBA. Florida suspended someone too.
- Isles316


I'm pretty sure...mostly sure...it was optional, not mandatory. If I remember right, other players were not suspended (and now that I'm curious, I'll look it up tonight when I have time).
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Feb 19 @ 12:49 PM ET
I'm pretty sure...mostly sure...it was optional, not mandatory. If I remember right, other players were not suspended (and now that I'm curious, I'll look it up tonight when I have time).
- UIF

Even if it wasn't what does it matter? Wang is still a cheap penny pinching POS who could give a rats ass about this team or it's fans.
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Feb 19 @ 12:56 PM ET
Bailey and Joenssu suspension had nothing to do with pinching pennies. It was Wang/Snow mastery once again a circumventing the CBA. By suspending them, they can bring up guys from Bridgeport and not have them have to go thru waivers to go back again. Saving the money was just gravy.

Grabs on third line is same reason why Ullstrom is on 4th line. they clearly are doing so well that they need to be punished. KO tried a few new moves on NHL13 that he wanted to implement.

I brought my 1 1/2 year old to the game. Best part of it is he will not remember this game. thank god for that.

kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Feb 19 @ 12:56 PM ET
They should throw them at Wang and chant Snow must go. Enough of this. The thing is the islanders would never appease the fans, they don't on purpose. Snow(and LetsGoIsles of course) is smarter than everyone else.
- Cptmjl


I think I will start that on Sunday Wang and Snow both must go!!
Bags502
New York Islanders
Location: Huntington, NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Feb 19 @ 12:58 PM ET
I'm pretty sure...mostly sure...it was optional, not mandatory. If I remember right, other players were not suspended (and now that I'm curious, I'll look it up tonight when I have time).
- UIF


Mandatory or not... It did two things for Wang. It saved him money and opened up rostor spots so he could have healthy players. If he put them on IR he had to pay them...

You know Wang is cheap, (so why does this keep coming up?) and why does it matter? Not to mention if you owned a business that constanlty lost money (and even if it was a profitable business) why wouldnt u save whatever money you could?
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Feb 19 @ 1:00 PM ET
Cut it out you 2! You can hate each other without the name calling.

canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Feb 19 @ 1:02 PM ET
I will be ther Sunday with my brother 4 minutes. I will be wearing the paper bag on my head though
- kasperrko



(frank), I miss him around here.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Feb 19 @ 1:02 PM ET
(frank), I miss him around here.
- canadianpenfan


I told him to come back but he is to embarassed with this team to even respond
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Feb 19 @ 1:03 PM ET
I told him to come back but he is to embarassed with this team to even respond
- kasperrko



He can be a Penguins fan for all I care. I just miss is hockey insight.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Feb 19 @ 1:05 PM ET
Mandatory or not... It did two things for Wang. It saved him money and opened up rostor spots so he could have healthy players. If he put them on IR he had to pay them...

You know Wang is cheap, (so why does this keep coming up?) and why does it matter? Not to mention if you owned a business that constanlty lost money (and even if it was a profitable business) why wouldnt u save whatever money you could?

- Bags502


Cripes, I'm not complaining about it. I was pointing out to keaner that an owner who would save relative pennies by suspending a player would probably see the value in a couple hundred thousand saved by not hiring a top-flight coach.
Bags502
New York Islanders
Location: Huntington, NY
Joined: 06.21.2007

Feb 19 @ 1:07 PM ET
Cripes, I'm not complaining about it. I was pointing out to keaner that an owner who would save relative pennies by suspending a player would probably see the value in a couple hundred thousand saved by not hiring a top-flight coach.
- UIF


I agree with you but then again what top-flight coach would wanna come to this mess of an organization.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Feb 19 @ 1:07 PM ET
, I thought it was (mandatory) but wasn't sure enough to say so. I think it's the typical thing to do when players are injured overseas. The Panthers did it with Gudbranson.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Feb 19 @ 1:11 PM ET
Mandatory or not... It did two things for Wang. It saved him money and opened up rostor spots so he could have healthy players. If he put them on IR he had to pay them...

You know Wang is cheap, (so why does this keep coming up?) and why does it matter? Not to mention if you owned a business that constanlty lost money (and even if it was a profitable business) why wouldnt u save whatever money you could?

- Bags502

Saving money where he can is a far cry from what he's doing. I understand that he's lost tons of $$ on this team. I have no doubt that he's probably lost the same amount of $$ that he actually bought the team for. But that being said, he can't expect people to pay good hard-earned money to come out to a dump and watch a border-line NHL quality product. Its not fair for Wang to circumvent the CBA and maintain a team with a collective payroll of well below the salary floor in actual dollars spent, yet expect fans to come out and pay NHL prices to watch AHL quality.

Wang puts no $$ into the on-ice product. Its all waiver wire guys, kids on ELC's or cheap vets. Nobody's saying he needs to spend to the salary cap. Nobody expects that. But we have every right to expect Wang to at least legitimately spend to the salary floor, spending actual dollars to get to that point instead of reaching the salary floor through unattainable bonuses to rookies or by trading for contracts that he won't have to pay. We can expect him to invest in the coaching staff so that this team of developing young players isn't being coached into the ground by a coach clearly in over his head and two assistants who are no better.
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Feb 19 @ 1:13 PM ET
Cut it out you 2! You can hate each other without the name calling.


- canadianpenfan


Hate is such a STRONG word!!!
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Feb 19 @ 1:13 PM ET
Hate is such a STRONG word!!!
- jimmc7722



I think it fits.
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Feb 19 @ 1:14 PM ET
He can be a Penguins fan for all I care. I just miss is hockey insight.
- canadianpenfan





2 Penguins Fans in here is 2 too many!!!
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Feb 19 @ 1:14 PM ET
I think it fits.
- canadianpenfan



I missed it... what happen???
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Feb 19 @ 1:16 PM ET
I missed it... what happen???
- jimmc7722



Tuesday happened.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Feb 19 @ 1:17 PM ET
Saving money where he can is a far cry from what he's doing. I understand that he's lost tons of $$ on this team. I have no doubt that he's probably lost the same amount of $$ that he actually bought the team for. But that being said, he can't expect people to pay good hard-earned money to come out to a dump and watch a border-line NHL quality product. Its not fair for Wang to circumvent the CBA and maintain a team with a collective payroll of well below the salary floor in actual dollars spent, yet expect fans to come out and pay NHL prices to watch AHL quality.

Wang puts no $$ into the on-ice product. Its all waiver wire guys, kids on ELC's or cheap vets. Nobody's saying he needs to spend to the salary cap. Nobody expects that. But we have every right to expect Wang to at least legitimately spend to the salary floor, spending actual dollars to get to that point instead of reaching the salary floor through unattainable bonuses to rookies or by trading for contracts that he won't have to pay. We can expect him to invest in the coaching staff so that this team of developing young players isn't being coached into the ground by a coach clearly in over his head and two assistants who are no better.

- Jethro09


I think for the most part everyone agree's that Wang is being thrifty to say the least. I guess the bigger question is, can he be blamed for it at this stage?
As fans, we all are sick of two decades worth of crap from this organization which makes it easy to forget the early efforts Wang did put in with this team.

I think after being turned down by a few UFA's and publically turned down by a few traded players, Wang realized there was no winning until this team reached a sustainable situation. Brooklyn is that situation so my guess has been for the last few years that he would bide time until 2015 when the lease ended. It was said that even if the Isles were to sell out every game of the season and playoffs, they'd still end up in the red becasue of the unfavoarable lease. From that standpoint, Wang likely see's it as a 'no win' situation and therefore wise to play budget hockey until the team can actually put their bottom line in the black (ie. 2015).

Naturally from a business standpoint, you need your company to be successful to expect financial rewards so at some point his ultimate goal has to be to go all in again.
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Feb 19 @ 1:20 PM ET
Cappy benches Ullstrom for Reasoner - Now we going to win for sure. what is wrong with this guy.

Moulson – Tavares – Boyes
Bailey – Nielsen – Aucoin
Grabner – Reasoner – Okposo
Martin – Cizikas – McDonald

MacDonald – Hamonic
Visnovsky – Hickey
Streit – Finley

DiPietro
Nabokov

Healthy scratches:
Ullstrom, Boulton, Martinek

Charlie21
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 10.14.2009

Feb 19 @ 1:21 PM ET
So yesterday I was at that poor excuse for a game. My 9 year old son turns to me in the 3 period and says, "I've noticed that Okposo never has his stick on the ice"....I said "that son is why he should be watching the game from worse seats than we have right now".

My 9 year old can make better hockey decisions than the current coaching staff apparantly.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Feb 19 @ 1:23 PM ET
Even if it wasn't what does it matter? Wang is still a cheap penny pinching POS who could give a rats ass about this team or it's fans.
- Cptmjl



he "could" or "couldN'T" give a rats ass...

hint: the first one is not correct.
Charlie21
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 10.14.2009

Feb 19 @ 1:25 PM ET
wasn't so bright last night
- Cptmjl


Boyes was a horror show on the 5 on 3 and that set the tone for the whole game. That guy sucked it yesterday in a bad way.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Feb 19 @ 1:26 PM ET
I think it fits.
- canadianpenfan



it fits.
Charlie21
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 10.14.2009

Feb 19 @ 1:26 PM ET
There were 1000 flyers fans there. Isles fans were turned away at the ticket booth yesterday.
- Isles316


There weren't as many Flyers fans as I thought. They were loud, but not nearly half. I would say maybe 10%.
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