They can't get a coach before they get a defenseman or two?
- Cptmjl

they certainly could but even the most experienced coach cant play defense.

Problem is us fans have already lost patience. I dont want them to trade them and then watch them flourish.
- kasperrko

Bailey i could see it happening, Okposo is always going to be Okposo. Tops 20 goal scorer, he's just not a complete player. Whether it's the Isles fault for developing or this is just the way he is i don't know but it's time to move on.

Trust me I am not getting excited either I mean it is never going to happen. I just think that some times you wear out your tenure and I beleive that is what happened to Ruff
- kasperrko

Well he certainly had enough teams and at times enough talent. He had a good run, it was time for a change.

they certainly could but even the most experienced coach cant play defense.
- LetsGoIsles

We don't want to make it too easy for whomever Snow's next victim is.

Lindy Ruff got fired. Hire him Garth!

Okposo is not a great player. He could be a decent second liner at best as far as I'm concerned, he's not a good skater and he's weak on the puck. Even if he pots 20 goals do you want him?
- Cptmjl

Before he got hurt you noticed him every shift do something positive. He was a good player who got a lot of scoring chances

That's what I mean- he's broke as far as this hockey team is concerned, and he's trying to "bare bones" the operation to make the numbers as attractive as possible to a potential buyer. Plus, "real estate moguls" don't really have CASH, they have stuff, and they OWE money on most of it- as I said, as far as I heard, at least he realizes this, unlike the guy who owns the Devils. I am really hearing serious rumors about NJ lately, most of them using the word "insolvent".
- dcb1

While Wang is a huge owner of real estate, he also owns hundreds of millions in Marriott. Also, he made out with $700 million in CA stock (though he returned a portion of it). Remember, he's just a few years removed from donating $50 million to a University...sure tax write-offs etc etc..but I don't think he's close to being 'cash poor'. That said, even if his $890 million were all liquid, I can't imagine he'd want to watch $10-$15 million a year continue to errode after already having lost close to $200 million.

Who knows, maybe he has parked the team in Brooklyn for sale, but I seriously doubt it. I think it's more likely he sells a stake in it while maintaining a portion of the team.

Lindy Ruff got fired. Hire him Garth!
- Jethro09

New blog Least favorite Islanders.
- mighty13duck

Thats easy for me, it's not even DP







Come on... gimme money silry rittle frans

While Wang is a huge owner of real estate, he also owns hundreds of millions in Marriott. Also, he made out with $700 million in CA stock (though he returned a portion of it). Remember, he's just a few years removed from donating $50 million to a University...sure tax write-offs etc etc..but I don't think he's close to being 'cash poor'. That said, even if his $890 million were all liquid, I can't imagine he'd want to watch $10-$15 million a year continue to errode after already having lost close to $200 million.

Who knows, maybe he has parked the team in Brooklyn for sale, but I seriously doubt it. I think it's more likely he sells a stake in it while maintaining a portion of the team.
- keaner17

I heard he's selling the Isles so he can start Ricky and Charlies Rickshaw Shuttles Co.

Thats easy for me, it's not even DP







Come on... gimme money silry rittle frans
- Killer' Carlson

Before he got hurt you noticed him every shift do something positive. He was a good player who got a lot of scoring chances
- Isles316

Meh, I don't agree with that. I never thought he was anything special. I've always thought tops a second liner. I never thought his skating was good and ALWAYS thought he was weak on the puck, everything that's more obvious now. Not saying this because people finally realize but I really never understood the hype? I never thought he was this bad honestly just never thought he was that good, always thought he was overrated. I hate when he shoots the puck with his follow through he ends up on his ass on the ice. Like he can't handle the momentum? Wierd? His first NHL goal was like that against Brodeur I'm pretty sure and many more after that. If he didn't score and there was a rebound there was no second chance because he was ass down on the ice. It's like he does it for dramatic effect? He excells at taking himself out of the play and always has. I've always told my friends he looks like a giraffe on skates. Good third liner with no physical edge but who the hell wants that?

While Wang is a huge owner of real estate, he also owns hundreds of millions in Marriott. Also, he made out with $700 million in CA stock (though he returned a portion of it). Remember, he's just a few years removed from donating $50 million to a University...sure tax write-offs etc etc..but I don't think he's close to being 'cash poor'. That said, even if his $890 million were all liquid, I can't imagine he'd want to watch $10-$15 million a year continue to errode after already having lost close to $200 million.

Who knows, maybe he has parked the team in Brooklyn for sale, but I seriously doubt it. I think it's more likely he sells a stake in it while maintaining a portion of the team.
- keaner17

As long as it's 49% or less...

Thats easy for me, it's not even DP







Come on... gimme money silry rittle frans
- Killer' Carlson

never gets old.

Who knows, maybe he has parked the team in Brooklyn for sale, but I seriously doubt it. I think it's more likely he sells a stake in it while maintaining a portion of the team.
- keaner17

I think he's done with this franchise- HIS plan was to keep them on Long Island, and build something for Long Island to be proud of in Uniondale. I think Brooklyn was his idea of "throwing in the towel", as the saying goes. I also think this isn't the only deal that has cost him significant money over especially the last five or so years. What this really looks like to me is cost cutting to the bone to try and put lipstick on this pig, so he can project an image of breaking even now, and making serious money going forward in Brooklyn, so he can get top dollar for it. Unlike some others, I don't believe he bought this franchise JUST for the real estate, but I DO believe he never anticipated MAKING money off the franchise per se; it was all of the other stuff that was to bring in the money, and that hasn't changed. I'm thinking he's going to keep bailing water out of the boat until he can bail out altogether.

When I say "broke", that's what I mean- the team as a standalone entity is broke, not him (which is a little bit different than what I'm hearing about NJ). Brooklyn will make that better, but it won't fix it. I don't think the Rag$ or the Knicks make all that much money, either- it's the real estate, the brand, and the TV stations (not to mention the cable company) that bring home the bacon. This is why I think that the people who will eventually purchase the franchise will be the guys who own the real estate in Brooklyn, and you'll eventually see a TV station or two rise from that conglomerate, as well.

Had the team stayed on Long Island, and much of the other "vision" come to fruition, I think he'd have kept the franchise viable and spent enough money to attempt to make it successful (even if his micro-management would have retarded the progress thereof). Now that he's going to be nothing more than a tenant in Brooklyn, I'm not seeing the incentive, myself, and that's why I think he's going to sell as soon as he can possibly get enough for it to make that worthwhile. It's just a shame we have to continue to suffer the consequences of the penny pinching necessary to make that happen.

I think he's done with this franchise- HIS plan was to keep them on Long Island, and build something for Long Island to be proud of in Uniondale. I think Brooklyn was his idea of "throwing in the towel", as the saying goes. I also think this isn't the only deal that has cost him significant money over especially the last five or so years. What this really looks like to me is cost cutting to the bone to try and put lipstick on this pig, so he can project an image of breaking even now, and making serious money going forward in Brooklyn, so he can get top dollar for it. Unlike some others, I don't believe he bought this franchise JUST for the real estate, but I DO believe he never anticipated MAKING money off the franchise per se; it was all of the other stuff that was to bring in the money, and that hasn't changed. I'm thinking he's going to keep bailing water out of the boat until he can bail out altogether.

When I say "broke", that's what I mean- the team as a standalone entity is broke, not him (which is a little bit different than what I'm hearing about NJ). Brooklyn will make that better, but it won't fix it. I don't think the Rag$ or the Knicks make all that much money, either- it's the real estate, the brand, and the TV stations (not to mention the cable company) that bring home the bacon. This is why I think that the people who will eventually purchase the franchise will be the guys who own the real estate in Brooklyn, and you'll eventually see a TV station or two rise from that conglomerate, as well.

Had the team stayed on Long Island, and much of the other "vision" come to fruition, I think he'd have kept the franchise viable and spent enough money to attempt to make it successful (even if his micro-management would have retarded the progress thereof). Now that he's going to be nothing more than a tenant in Brooklyn, I'm not seeing the incentive, myself, and that's why I think he's going to sell as soon as he can possibly get enough for it to make that worthwhile. It's just a shame we have to continue to suffer the consequences of the penny pinching necessary to make that happen.
- dcb1

Wang is a POS

Lindy Ruff got fired. Hire him Garth!
- Jethro09

As George W Bush would say..."You're doing a hellva job Crappy"...

Wang is a POS
- Cptmjl

What is POS?

What is POS?
- kear20

piece of poop

piece of poop
- NYIDRIVE4FIVE

Lindy Ruff got fired. Hire him Garth!
- Jethro09

I'd love to hear Garth and Charles reasons for not hiring Ruff. Talk about classic BS.

Maybe Snow should fire the GM...

Garth Snow insists he won't make any rash moves to spark Islanders
Published: February 20, 2013 5:02 PM
By ARTHUR STAPLE [email][email protected][/email]


Garth Snow isn't happy with the results his team has posted so far this season, but he isn't ready to do anything drastic.

This is the team the Islanders general manager assembled, so he's not interested yet in giving up on any of his struggling younger players or dumping veterans for draft picks either.

"As I've said many times, if there's an opportunity to upgrade our roster and make the team better, we'll do it, but not at the expense of our young guys or prospects," Snow told Newsday here on Wednesday, a day off for the Islanders before Thursday night's game with the Canadiens. "We're not going to mortgage our future to make a quick fix. That's not our plan."

The inconsistency his team has shown, not just this season but in recent seasons, has been nagging Snow as well as the team's fans. But Snow, with the blessing of owner Charles Wang, committed to a complete renovation of the franchise, building it around John Tavares without much room for big-budget risks.

That philosophy hasn't changed, even as the Islanders sit tied for 11th in the East, four points from eighth and two points from last, with 16 of the 48 games already gone by.

Monday's 7-0 shelling by the Flyers at home was the worst home shutout loss in team history. The Islanders, with Snow watching from high above in Scotiabank Place on Tuesday night, put forth a better effort but with the same result: a 3-1 loss to the Senators that left the Islanders 2-7-0 in their last nine games.

"Obviously, Monday was not a good performance," Snow said. "I thought we were better [Tuesday] night. The challenge for this group is to find ways to win those games, facing a good goaltender. There's challenges every night."

One of the big challenges has been the play of Rick DiPietro, who dropped to 0-3-0 this season with Tuesday's loss. Jack Capuano refused to comment on DiPietro's play for a second time. He also did not say anything about his backup goaltender after a 6-4 loss to the Hurricanes nine days ago, when DiPietro wandered out of his net and ended up giving up the tying goal early in the third period.

And Capuano refused comment on Tuesday, when DiPietro gave up a soft goal to make it 2-0 Senators, then dropped another soft shot for a rebound goal to clinch the 3-1 defeat.

"Rick's missed a good portion of the last four years and he's trying hard to get back to that All-Star level he'd been at," Snow said. "There's certain goals every goaltender wants back. We're all part of the team, all 23 guys on the roster. They all have to do what needs to be done to win games, it's not just one guy."

Snow said he has no plans to call up a prospect from Bridgeport just to shake up the roster. Forwards John Persson, Nino Niederreiter and Brock Nelson have all played well, as has defenseman Matt Donovan and goaltender Kevin Poulin in spots.

"The group we have [on the Islanders]) has won games this year and looked good doing it at times," Snow said. "If we call someone up, it'll be based on what we need at that position at a given time. We made some waiver claims at the start of the season to bolster our depth and we think that's helped with the development of our prospects in Bridgeport."

It may be painful for die-hard fans to hear, but Snow is the one who started this project, with Wang completely on board. He's not about to change course.

"We think this team can win," Snow said, "because we've all seen how well we can play."

Maybe Snow should fire the GM...

Garth Snow insists he won't make any rash moves to spark Islanders
Published: February 20, 2013 5:02 PM
By ARTHUR STAPLE
- kear20[email][email protected][/email]


Garth Snow isn't happy with the results his team has posted so far this season, but he isn't ready to do anything drastic.

This is the team the Islanders general manager assembled, so he's not interested yet in giving up on any of his struggling younger players or dumping veterans for draft picks either.

"As I've said many times, if there's an opportunity to upgrade our roster and make the team better, we'll do it, but not at the expense of our young guys or prospects," Snow told Newsday here on Wednesday, a day off for the Islanders before Thursday night's game with the Canadiens. "We're not going to mortgage our future to make a quick fix. That's not our plan."

The inconsistency his team has shown, not just this season but in recent seasons, has been nagging Snow as well as the team's fans. But Snow, with the blessing of owner Charles Wang, committed to a complete renovation of the franchise, building it around John Tavares without much room for big-budget risks.

That philosophy hasn't changed, even as the Islanders sit tied for 11th in the East, four points from eighth and two points from last, with 16 of the 48 games already gone by.

Monday's 7-0 shelling by the Flyers at home was the worst home shutout loss in team history. The Islanders, with Snow watching from high above in Scotiabank Place on Tuesday night, put forth a better effort but with the same result: a 3-1 loss to the Senators that left the Islanders 2-7-0 in their last nine games.

"Obviously, Monday was not a good performance," Snow said. "I thought we were better [Tuesday] night. The challenge for this group is to find ways to win those games, facing a good goaltender. There's challenges every night."

One of the big challenges has been the play of Rick DiPietro, who dropped to 0-3-0 this season with Tuesday's loss. Jack Capuano refused to comment on DiPietro's play for a second time. He also did not say anything about his backup goaltender after a 6-4 loss to the Hurricanes nine days ago, when DiPietro wandered out of his net and ended up giving up the tying goal early in the third period.

And Capuano refused comment on Tuesday, when DiPietro gave up a soft goal to make it 2-0 Senators, then dropped another soft shot for a rebound goal to clinch the 3-1 defeat.

"Rick's missed a good portion of the last four years and he's trying hard to get back to that All-Star level he'd been at," Snow said. "There's certain goals every goaltender wants back. We're all part of the team, all 23 guys on the roster. They all have to do what needs to be done to win games, it's not just one guy."

Snow said he has no plans to call up a prospect from Bridgeport just to shake up the roster. Forwards John Persson, Nino Niederreiter and Brock Nelson have all played well, as has defenseman Matt Donovan and goaltender Kevin Poulin in spots.

"The group we have [on the Islanders]) has won games this year and looked good doing it at times," Snow said. "If we call someone up, it'll be based on what we need at that position at a given time. We made some waiver claims at the start of the season to bolster our depth and we think that's helped with the development of our prospects in Bridgeport."

It may be painful for die-hard fans to hear, but Snow is the one who started this project, with Wang completely on board. He's not about to change course.

"We think this team can win," Snow said, "because we've all seen how well we can play."

This is beyond sad. The same garbage from this guy every year. When has Snow's teams every shown they can win?

Maybe Snow should fire the GM...

Garth Snow insists he won't make any rash moves to spark Islanders
Published: February 20, 2013 5:02 PM
By ARTHUR STAPLE
- kear20[email][email protected][/email]


Garth Snow isn't happy with the results his team has posted so far this season, but he isn't ready to do anything drastic.

This is the team the Islanders general manager assembled, so he's not interested yet in giving up on any of his struggling younger players or dumping veterans for draft picks either.

"As I've said many times, if there's an opportunity to upgrade our roster and make the team better, we'll do it, but not at the expense of our young guys or prospects," Snow told Newsday here on Wednesday, a day off for the Islanders before Thursday night's game with the Canadiens. "We're not going to mortgage our future to make a quick fix. That's not our plan."

The inconsistency his team has shown, not just this season but in recent seasons, has been nagging Snow as well as the team's fans. But Snow, with the blessing of owner Charles Wang, committed to a complete renovation of the franchise, building it around John Tavares without much room for big-budget risks.

That philosophy hasn't changed, even as the Islanders sit tied for 11th in the East, four points from eighth and two points from last, with 16 of the 48 games already gone by.

Monday's 7-0 shelling by the Flyers at home was the worst home shutout loss in team history. The Islanders, with Snow watching from high above in Scotiabank Place on Tuesday night, put forth a better effort but with the same result: a 3-1 loss to the Senators that left the Islanders 2-7-0 in their last nine games.

"Obviously, Monday was not a good performance," Snow said. "I thought we were better [Tuesday] night. The challenge for this group is to find ways to win those games, facing a good goaltender. There's challenges every night."

One of the big challenges has been the play of Rick DiPietro, who dropped to 0-3-0 this season with Tuesday's loss. Jack Capuano refused to comment on DiPietro's play for a second time. He also did not say anything about his backup goaltender after a 6-4 loss to the Hurricanes nine days ago, when DiPietro wandered out of his net and ended up giving up the tying goal early in the third period.

And Capuano refused comment on Tuesday, when DiPietro gave up a soft goal to make it 2-0 Senators, then dropped another soft shot for a rebound goal to clinch the 3-1 defeat.

"Rick's missed a good portion of the last four years and he's trying hard to get back to that All-Star level he'd been at," Snow said. "There's certain goals every goaltender wants back. We're all part of the team, all 23 guys on the roster. They all have to do what needs to be done to win games, it's not just one guy."

Snow said he has no plans to call up a prospect from Bridgeport just to shake up the roster. Forwards John Persson, Nino Niederreiter and Brock Nelson have all played well, as has defenseman Matt Donovan and goaltender Kevin Poulin in spots.

"The group we have [on the Islanders]) has won games this year and looked good doing it at times," Snow said. "If we call someone up, it'll be based on what we need at that position at a given time. We made some waiver claims at the start of the season to bolster our depth and we think that's helped with the development of our prospects in Bridgeport."

It may be painful for die-hard fans to hear, but Snow is the one who started this project, with Wang completely on board. He's not about to change course.

"We think this team can win," Snow said, "because we've all seen how well we can play."

exactly what is your plan you stupid (frank)?!


I'm going to the game in Buffalo saturday night... I'm going to physically assault someone.

Maybe Snow should fire the GM...

Garth Snow insists he won't make any rash moves to spark Islanders
Published: February 20, 2013 5:02 PM
By ARTHUR STAPLE
- kear20[email][email protected][/email]


Garth Snow isn't happy with the results his team has posted so far this season, but he isn't ready to do anything drastic.

This is the team the Islanders general manager assembled, so he's not interested yet in giving up on any of his struggling younger players or dumping veterans for draft picks either.

"As I've said many times, if there's an opportunity to upgrade our roster and make the team better, we'll do it, but not at the expense of our young guys or prospects," Snow told Newsday here on Wednesday, a day off for the Islanders before Thursday night's game with the Canadiens. "We're not going to mortgage our future to make a quick fix. That's not our plan."

The inconsistency his team has shown, not just this season but in recent seasons, has been nagging Snow as well as the team's fans. But Snow, with the blessing of owner Charles Wang, committed to a complete renovation of the franchise, building it around John Tavares without much room for big-budget risks.

That philosophy hasn't changed, even as the Islanders sit tied for 11th in the East, four points from eighth and two points from last, with 16 of the 48 games already gone by.

Monday's 7-0 shelling by the Flyers at home was the worst home shutout loss in team history. The Islanders, with Snow watching from high above in Scotiabank Place on Tuesday night, put forth a better effort but with the same result: a 3-1 loss to the Senators that left the Islanders 2-7-0 in their last nine games.

"Obviously, Monday was not a good performance," Snow said. "I thought we were better [Tuesday] night. The challenge for this group is to find ways to win those games, facing a good goaltender. There's challenges every night."

One of the big challenges has been the play of Rick DiPietro, who dropped to 0-3-0 this season with Tuesday's loss. Jack Capuano refused to comment on DiPietro's play for a second time. He also did not say anything about his backup goaltender after a 6-4 loss to the Hurricanes nine days ago, when DiPietro wandered out of his net and ended up giving up the tying goal early in the third period.

And Capuano refused comment on Tuesday, when DiPietro gave up a soft goal to make it 2-0 Senators, then dropped another soft shot for a rebound goal to clinch the 3-1 defeat.

"Rick's missed a good portion of the last four years and he's trying hard to get back to that All-Star level he'd been at," Snow said. "There's certain goals every goaltender wants back. We're all part of the team, all 23 guys on the roster. They all have to do what needs to be done to win games, it's not just one guy."

Snow said he has no plans to call up a prospect from Bridgeport just to shake up the roster. Forwards John Persson, Nino Niederreiter and Brock Nelson have all played well, as has defenseman Matt Donovan and goaltender Kevin Poulin in spots.

"The group we have [on the Islanders]) has won games this year and looked good doing it at times," Snow said. "If we call someone up, it'll be based on what we need at that position at a given time. We made some waiver claims at the start of the season to bolster our depth and we think that's helped with the development of our prospects in Bridgeport."

It may be painful for die-hard fans to hear, but Snow is the one who started this project, with Wang completely on board. He's not about to change course.

"We think this team can win," Snow said, "because we've all seen how well we can play."

No hope