Big dion is right... the salty sweat and fromunda cheese from my testicular region is more useful than Ron Wilson.
- T.Fleury

i hear that

Pretty much the same line-up to choose from.. big difference in results from the team buying into Carlyle's system.

We didn't have the Gratzky's & Lemieux's to play Wilson's game.. I am sure he would've won a cup with the 80's Oilers.. nowadays.. he couldn't win jack.

Best move was firing Wilson... & hiring Carlyle.
- DoctorNHL

Agreed, just 2 years too late, IMO.

beat like a rented mule

wait, what
- bobbyisno1

Think Wheeler on TSN1050 said last night that Scrivens would be getting the start tonight.. guess the question must've been asked of Carlyle...

i hear that
- big_dion

But I don't ever want to see it....or visualize it

I like how he plays now than ever. He finally doesn't have the pressure to be producing PPG. He's playing simple game, chips in offensively only when safe, very physical on the body without penalties, smart plays and his slapshot is becoming more accurate.

He's no longer a pylon in my books if he keeps this up.
- hooligoon

He's playing better ( a little ) I think due to less playing time...when he's playing over 30 minutes a game he just doesnt have the stamina to keep making good plays against the leagues best...I always wondered why he was falling down all the time...but it was due to fatigue...less ice - better play. IMHO

@jonasTSN1050: Leaf goaltending now ranks eighth overall a third of the way through: 2.24 GAA, .930 SV%.

Agreed, just 2 years too late, IMO.
- bixll

I agree with you but will go one further.. should've never been hired in the first place... his treatment of Leaf fans from day one was as arrogant as his treatment of the players.

The Know-It-All that knew Nothing!!!

in fairness to Wilson, he never got the kind of goaltending the Leafs are getting right now (on a consistent basis at least). and you can point to defence but the Leafs are giving up shots and opportunities.
- scotch_tape

wouldnt matter anyway the his style of coaching didnt have the defence collapsing like it is now. they were bound to get lit up with his run and gun style. He is not a good coach for this team

@jonasTSN1050: Leaf goaltending now ranks eighth overall a third of the way through: 2.24 GAA, .930 SV%.


- Fruitcakenipple

they reported last night before the game started that they were 4th.. How did they drop?

beat like a rented mule

wait, what
- bobbyisno1

Ride him like seabiscuit!

I agree with you but will go one further.. should've never been hired in the first place... his treatment of Leaf fans from day one was as arrogant as his treatment of the players.

The Know-It-All that knew Nothing!!!
- DoctorNHL

Ya, but Burke had the same attitude, so they got along.

@jonasTSN1050: Leaf goaltending now ranks eighth overall a third of the way through: 2.24 GAA, .930 SV%.


- Fruitcakenipple

I could see team GAA being 8th with 2.24, but i would think we would be higher than that in the sv% category with a .930?

in fairness to Wilson, he never got the kind of goaltending the Leafs are getting right now (on a consistent basis at least). and you can point to defence but the Leafs are giving up shots and opportunities.
- scotch_tape

The goalies were still young and maturing, they didn't just drink some magic elixir. The difference is in the system. The problem with the Leafs is they dont have enough of the size up front and down the middle, so they lose battles in their own end often. But the quality of shots, the scoring chances and the odd man rushes have been vastly reduced. Most of the shots on net arent of the same quality, and most of the time in the Leafs zone are just battles along the board. There is a noteable difference between the skating around last season to more structure this season.

Then you factor in an improved PK, and the fact Toronto is scoring 1st in games more often than last year and alot of the time spend giving up shots is mostly because the team is trying to learn how to protect the lead. Lots of inexperience on this team at the NHL.

But I don't ever want to see it....or visualize it
- JIMI-JAMES

or smell it

I could see team GAA being 8th with 2.24, but i would think we would be higher than that in the sv% category with a .930?
- p_zub

Only Ottawa, Chicago and Nashville have a lower Team GAA than the Leafs

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...ey/nhl/stats/team/scoring

they reported last night before the game started that they were 4th.. How did they drop?
- DoctorNHL

Maybe they said 4th in the east? I dunno.

Maybe they said 4th in the east? I dunno.
- deerow84

Nope definitely the NHL. The GAA proves that

Maybe they said 4th in the east? I dunno.
- deerow84

You don't say!

or smell it
- hooligoon

woofs cookies, looks at it, reminds of trolls

Only Ottawa, Chicago and Nashville have a lower Team GAA than the Leafs

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...ey/nhl/stats/team/scoring
- DoctorNHL

Leafs tied for second in the NHL with Shutouts.

Only Ottawa, Chicago and Nashville have a lower Team GAA than the Leafs

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...ey/nhl/stats/team/scoring
- DoctorNHL

http://www.nhl.com/ice/te...ame&viewName=goalsAgainst

The goalies were still young and maturing, they didn't just drink some magic elixir. The difference is in the system. The problem with the Leafs is they dont have enough of the size up front and down the middle, so they lose battles in their own end often. But the quality of shots, the scoring chances and the odd man rushes have been vastly reduced. Most of the shots on net arent of the same quality, and most of the time in the Leafs zone are just battles along the board. There is a noteable difference between the skating around last season to more structure this season.
- systemtool

to add to your points. There is an intangible a lot of people overlook. Enforcer/physical players. How many soft/ish player on the Leafs roster got cojones now thanks to their presence. Can we deny that players like Orr, MacLaren & Fraser pumped everyone's tires?

We were a fast high producing offense last year but on the flip side, we had weak goalkeeping and weaker defense. And it was even more obvious when we played physical teams like Boston. Fast forward to now with RC defense first system with a sprinkle of toughness, what do you get? A team with everyone not afraid to play their hardest. Prime example of someone who literally had no balls and has some now, KESSEL!

Admit it, hockey need us goons!

woofs cookies, looks at it, reminds of trolls
- JIMI-JAMES

Very nice.


Taking Tampa on my proline tonight though... Forgive me. Seems like one they'll lose.
- robin_steele264

There's your first mistake.

Who are the other two games that you're obligated to pick at shyte odds?

Get an online betting account through Bet365 or Bodog ya (frank)in' amateur!

http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm?fetchKey=20132ALLSAAALL&sort=avgGoalsAgainstPerGame&viewName=goalsAgainst



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Team Goals Against Average different teams have different amount of games.. Leafs are 4th in NHL... Goals Against is different number...