Dan Murphy ‏@sportsnetmurph
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- LeftCoaster

Finally.

Kassian seemed out of it against the blues, and I think when you don't play him or drop him down the line up he fades out of the game. I agree with other post about how AV punishes some people, but lets others get away with the same things. I know Kesler has only been back 2 games, but if he does not start getting some chemistry 5 on 5, I would like them to put Burrows with him and move Kassian back with the twins. I am even alright with them trying Kesler on the wing (what I wanted them to try with Coho at center before the trade). Don't care who is in goal, would probably go with Schneider so Luo does not have to hear his fave song in Chicago. This 4 game road trip should be a great test for the team.

So with Booth back what do we see the lines at?


22-33-14
7-17-9 ?
21-45-36
20-40-15


But who knows with AV. I bet he re-unites the AM-EX line and drops Kassian.

So with Booth back what do we see the lines at?


22-33-14
7-17-9 ?
21-45-36
20-40-15


But who knows with AV. I bet he re-unites the AM-EX line and drops Kassian.
- CanUSA17

Higgins on the fourth is a waste in my opinion, I bet you're right and Kassian sits one out...

If not Ott, I'd acquire Vermette from PHO (along with Torres) to fortify our bottom 6 for the playoff run. Vermette is a great faceoff guy... He's slick enough to play with offensive guys and good enough defensively to play that role.
- DrChristianTroy

Vermette is hella expensive ($3.75m for this year and the next 2) for a bottom 6 player. I think the only way that deal could work is if Booth was going back the other way. Which I would seriously entertain...

Raymond and Ballard for O'Reilly...

Why can't this team sustain pressure throughout the game? 1st periods have been great. 2nd average and 3rd bad.
Now that Booth is coming back, this team is going to need time to gel. I see some very average play over the next few weeks. Luckily there isn't a lot of pressure from within our own division.

Fantasy question.

Keeper league. Points only.

Was is RNH's value? What would be an acceptable return in term of players coming back?

Fantasy question.

Keeper league. Points only.

Was is RNH's value? What would be an acceptable return in term of players coming back?
- As_I_See_It

RNH has potential to be a >ppg for a pretty long time, in a keeper league I would think about next season (and the season after that) as well. I'm thinking a player like Bobby Ryan would be a good trade off...

awe Man...i do Hate these Shoot Outs....LUO, brutal shots let in....and Burrows attempt

Why can't this team sustain pressure throughout the game? 1st periods have been great. 2nd average and 3rd bad.
Now that Booth is coming back, this team is going to need time to gel. I see some very average play over the next few weeks. Luckily there isn't a lot of pressure from within our own division.
- bloatedmosquito

Coaching. For the most part, if we have the lead, we take the foot off the gas and play ultra conservative. If we're losing, AV benches guys and mixes lines (no chemistry, no continuity)... It's extremely difficult to play with new linemates every shift. Ugh, fire AV.

RNH has potential to be a >ppg for a pretty long time, in a keeper league I would think about next season (and the season after that) as well. I'm thinking a player like Bobby Ryan would be a good trade off...
- 1970vintage

Interesting.

Thanks for the feedback!

He was challenging guys all night to fight, no one would accept.

The whole team was turning the puck over, Zack had 3-4 glaring ones... but so did Edler. I hate how AV benches some guys and not others. Volpatti had an awful giveaway and I thought for sure he'd be riding the pine, but no, he's out the next shift.
- Scooby_Doo

Is there anything more useless than wandering around and politely asking guys to fight and then taking "no" for an answer? If you want to fight someone, start by (legally) running over one or more of their teammates. I'd rather see Kassian run around the ice like a bull in a China shop hitting everything in sight than half heartedly ask guys to grant him a momentum fight. If he's doing that in the first place (keeping everyone's head on a swivel with bone crushing hits), the fight probably isn't necessary anyways.

Is there anything more useless than wandering around and politely asking guys to fight and then taking "no" for an answer? If you want to fight someone, start by (legally) running over one or more of their players. I'd rather see Kassian run around the ice like a bull in a China shop hitting everything in sight than half heartedly ask guys to grant him a momentum fight. If he's doing that in the first place (keeping everyone's head on a swivel with bone crushing hits), the fight probably isn't necessary anyways.
- DrChristianTroy

I think fighting is stupid, having our whole 4th line in the box was a waste against Dallas. I agree, hit their players so hard they are afraid to touch the puck when you are on the ice.

I think fighting is stupid, having our whole 4th line in the box was a waste against Dallas. I agree, hit their players so hard they are afraid to touch the puck when you are on the ice.
- 1970vintage

I love fighting, but only when it's the product of spontaneous rage. I can't stand momentum fights, or goon fights.

I love fighting, but only when it's the product of spontaneous rage. I can't stand momentum fights, or goon fights.
- DrChristianTroy

That was what I meant, the staged, at the drop of the puck, nothing happened, or something happened earlier (or another game) and one player is "getting back" at another.

Been busy lately and haven't been able to watch any games, but by all accounts we're still plugging along and collecting points. Fosco, it looks like I took you to school last week in the pool?
- LeftCoaster

You got lucky...

You got lucky...
- Fosco

I know.

Kassian seemed out of it against the blues, and I think when you don't play him or drop him down the line up he fades out of the game. I agree with other post about how AV punishes some people, but lets others get away with the same things. I know Kesler has only been back 2 games, but if he does not start getting some chemistry 5 on 5, I would like them to put Burrows with him and move Kassian back with the twins. I am even alright with them trying Kesler on the wing (what I wanted them to try with Coho at center before the trade). Don't care who is in goal, would probably go with Schneider so Luo does not have to hear his fave song in Chicago. This 4 game road trip should be a great test for the team.
- immature_male

I won't get down on Kesler too much but I do have this to say. It is early but since being back the team seems to have many more questions with him than without him. It seems like all this shuffling that has to be done to accommodate RK17.

We had a 6 game winning streak prior . We have to shuffle all the players to find someone who can play his game. He is flippy with the media the day before his comeback .

I am beginnig to wonder if he is worth the trouble.

Last week this looked like a top team and now it is chaos .It is something to keep an eye out for.


Does anyone else wonder why our shootout top three are not
Schroeder Raymond Kassian?

Realisticly, i think they need to acquire a second line right winger with size and preferably a right hand shot with playmaking ability to balance there lineup , pretty much I see all there players being slotted in these positions as there playing now. Kesler is a 2nd line center in my mind. Unless Booth earns his ice time, I see Raymond as more of a 2nd line LW at this point, Raymond has earned it. As for Higgins, I dont see him as a second line player on a Stanley Cup contender, I know he was in 2011 when Samuelsson went down, but his production has never earned 2nd line minutes in my opinion, I think Higgins is 3rd 4th liner on this team offering depth scoring and grit on the boards.

Sedin Sedin Burrows
Raymond Kesler ??????
Booth Schroeder Hansen
Higgins Lapierre Kassian

If Kassian can add consistency to his game, i think he has the ability to be that player on the 2nd line,

Sedin Sedin Burrows
Raymond Kesler Kassian
Booth Schroeder Hansen
Higgins Lapierre Weise
- gunner2233

Solid post.

I agree with most of what you said, I'd also consider adding a better 4th liner than Weise, in my mind he can't be anything more than a 13th forward. Imagine if MG acquires a top 6 RW.

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Raymond - Kesler - Top 6 RW(playmaker or size)
Booth - Schroeder - Hansen
Higgins - Lapierre - Kassian

That team is ridiculously deep, probably as deep as Boston's was when they won the cup plus more high end scoring with the Twins. You can even move the wingers depending on chemistry and who's playing well and struggling. Those are 4 lines of potential scoring coming at you in waves. I don't care if Higgins isn't big enough for the 4th line, he's a very good two way player and great along the boards and cycle game and not exactly a soft guy. You can move Kassian up if he plays well or teams start to play dirty against the Twins.

Bottom line:

What do you need to make the playoffs in our pool?

Solid post.

I agree with most of what you said, I'd also consider adding a better 4th liner than Weise, in my mind he can't be anything more than a 13th forward. Imagine if MG acquires a top 6 RW.

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Raymond - Kesler - Top 6 RW(playmaker or size)
Booth - Schroeder - Hansen
Higgins - Lapierre - Kassian

That team is ridiculously deep, probably as deep as Boston's was when they won the cup plus more high end scoring with the Twins. You can even move the wingers depending on chemistry and who's playing well and struggling. Those are 4 lines of potential scoring coming at you in waves. I don't care if Higgins isn't big enough for the 4th line, he's a very good two way player and great along the boards and cycle game and not exactly a soft guy. You can move Kassian up if he plays well or teams start to play dirty against the Twins.

Bottom line:
- Nucker101

4-1

Solid post.

I agree with most of what you said, I'd also consider adding a better 4th liner than Weise, in my mind he can't be anything more than a 13th forward. Imagine if MG acquires a top 6 RW.

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Raymond - Kesler - Top 6 RW(playmaker or size)
Booth - Schroeder - Hansen
Higgins - Lapierre - Kassian

That team is ridiculously deep, probably as deep as Boston's was when they won the cup plus more high end scoring with the Twins. You can even move the wingers depending on chemistry and who's playing well and struggling. Those are 4 lines of potential scoring coming at you in waves. I don't care if Higgins isn't big enough for the 4th line, he's a very good two way player and great along the boards and cycle game and not exactly a soft guy. You can move Kassian up if he plays well or teams start to play dirty against the Twins.

Bottom line:
- Nucker101

David Clarkson? If only...

I won't get down on Kesler too much but I do have this to say. It is early but since being back the team seems to have many more questions with him than without him. It seems like all this shuffling that has to be done to accommodate RK17.

We had a 6 game winning streak prior . We have to shuffle all the players to find someone who can play his game. He is flippy with the media the day before his comeback .

I am beginnig to wonder if he is worth the trouble.

Last week this looked like a top team and now it is chaos .It is something to keep an eye out for.


Does anyone else wonder why our shootout top three are not
Schroeder Raymond Kassian?
- VANTEL

After Burrows blew his breakaway I don't think he knew what to do in the shootout. As long as we don't see a Sedin going up for an attempt...

I agree with other posters who think RK17 should get benfit of the doubt for first few games, I just feel bad for all the players moved around to help Kesler out. All of this for the good of one player, instead of what is best for the team. Soon as Booth plays the whole lineup is going to get screwy all over again.

Solid post.

I agree with most of what you said, I'd also consider adding a better 4th liner than Weise, in my mind he can't be anything more than a 13th forward. Imagine if MG acquires a top 6 RW.

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Raymond - Kesler - Top 6 RW(playmaker or size)
Booth - Schroeder - Hansen
Higgins - Lapierre - Kassian

That team is ridiculously deep, probably as deep as Boston's was when they won the cup plus more high end scoring with the Twins. You can even move the wingers depending on chemistry and who's playing well and struggling. Those are 4 lines of potential scoring coming at you in waves. I don't care if Higgins isn't big enough for the 4th line, he's a very good two way player and great along the boards and cycle game and not exactly a soft guy. You can move Kassian up if he plays well or teams start to play dirty against the Twins.

Bottom line:
- Nucker101

I would keep the Raymond Schroeder Hansen line intact because they have looked pretty decent every game together.
I would do the AMEX line of Booth Kesler Higgins
poopty for Kassian, prolly end up on the 4th which will hurt his motivation. AV always does things to get his fave players going, like putting Burrows back with the twins because they were not producing. Who cares when their linemate Kassian was?
I would go
Sedin Sedin Kassian
Booth Kesler Burrows or Burrows Schroder Kesler
Raymond Schroder Hansen or Raymond Higgins Booth

4th would be whomever is not on top 9 with Lappy as your center