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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 16 @ 5:36 PM ET
Still can't believe he did that. Score two goals, I mean. Would've thought he would be acquired this past offseason for that alone.


- Flyskippy


Wasn;t a free agent who could sign a 3 year deal
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 16 @ 5:36 PM ET
That Lavi stays or goes?



If he does leave, please no more retreads. Get a fresh face with a new approach. Cut the dinosaurs loose and draft/acquire for speed. Bring in more lean hungry kids and make it exciting again.

- 77rams


When it comes to adjustments Lavi reminds me a lot of Andy Reid.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 16 @ 5:37 PM ET
That Lavi stays or goes?



If he does leave, please no more retreads. Get a fresh face with a new approach. Cut the dinosaurs loose and draft/acquire for speed. Bring in more lean hungry kids and make it exciting again.

- 77rams

Hello.

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 16 @ 5:37 PM ET
Wasn;t a free agent who could sign a 3 year deal
- Jsaquella


Silly me.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 16 @ 5:37 PM ET
Love, love, love Gusty. I really hope he blossoms into something more than what has been projected and will probably happen: 3rd pairing Dman.
- Flyskippy


I'm with you on that. I think the kid has a chance to be better than a 3rd pairing defenseman.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 16 @ 5:38 PM ET
Hear, hear! I really hope to see this again in April:


- Flyskippy


I'd totally do it if we could get him back for a pick or something. As of right now, Dallas is in a playoff spot though.

On a seperate note, Lehtonen is playing really well for Dallas. I was in favour of getting him a couple years back, but he was always getting hurt.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 16 @ 5:38 PM ET
When it comes to adjustments Lavi reminds me a lot of Andy Reid.
- stveshdy


Meh. Lavi's won a Cup. I think his being second-guessed is overblown.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 16 @ 5:39 PM ET
True

Defense hasn't been helping either in generating offense... A good first pass and a cohesive breakout does a lot for a team. But if you don't have the personnel or skill it's hard to adjust

- Chris48


That falls on the coaches...NJ doesn't have a ton of great puck movers, but their forecheck is relentless.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 16 @ 5:39 PM ET
I'd totally do it if we could get him back for a pick or something. As of right now, Dallas is in a playoff spot though.

On a seperate note, Lehtonen is playing really well for Dallas. I was in favour of getting him a couple years back, but he was always getting hurt.

- Hextall271

I hate having to root for Dallas to plummet because I've always liked the Stars (thanks to Mike Modano), but better them than us. Sink, Stars, and give us Jagr (please).
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 16 @ 5:40 PM ET
That falls on the coaches...NJ doesn't have a ton of great puck movers, but their forecheck is relentless.
- Jsaquella

Need to change to soccer style breakouts and go for headers, etc.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 16 @ 5:40 PM ET
Meh. Lavi's won a Cup. I think his being second-guessed is overblown.
- Flyskippy


Thats true he did win a title.

I don't put the blame all on Lavi. The GM didn't do a good job this past offseason. He took chances but came up empty. In the end the team lost more than it gained.

Still think Lavi could be better making adjustments.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 16 @ 5:43 PM ET
Meh. Lavi's won a Cup. I think his being second-guessed is overblown.
- Flyskippy


I would, but I do find myself second guessing him quite a bit.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 16 @ 5:45 PM ET
Need to change to soccer style breakouts and go for headers, etc.
- Flyskippy


No, but it doesn't take Scotty Bowman to sit guys that can't seem to get it through their head that Brodeur is good at playing the puck.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 16 @ 5:47 PM ET
I hate having to root for Dallas to plummet because I've always liked the Stars (thanks to Mike Modano), but better them than us. Sink, Stars, and give us Jagr (please).
- Flyskippy


Agreed. I want to sing "moves like Jagr" everytime he scores again.

I know it's been discussed, but would Whitney from Edmonton help us at all?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 16 @ 5:48 PM ET
Agreed. I want to sing "moves like Jagr" everytime he scores again.

I know it's been discussed, but would Whitney from Edmonton help us at all?

- Hextall271

I suggested him around 2 weeks ago

I don't see why not...manageable contract, if I remember correctly, along with above average offense....

If the price is right...go for it.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Feb 16 @ 5:48 PM ET
Need to change to soccer style breakouts and go for headers, etc.
- Flyskippy


The flying "V" just might work.


Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 16 @ 5:48 PM ET
Agreed. I want to sing "moves like Jagr" everytime he scores again.

I know it's been discussed, but would Whitney from Edmonton help us at all?

- Hextall271


The cap hit would push them past the upper limit, so they'd be spending LTIR exemption. The other issue is he might not be better than Gustafsson right now.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 16 @ 5:50 PM ET
Timonen still not ruled out, looks like they're going to wait and see how he feels after warmups.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 16 @ 5:51 PM ET
I suggested him around 2 weeks ago

I don't see why not...manageable contract, if I remember correctly, along with above average offense....

If the price is right...go for it.

- Giroux_Is_God


Well, he's a puck mover right? I think he's a UFA soon too.. can't with this patchwork D.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 16 @ 5:51 PM ET
LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!



LET'S GO FLYERS!!! CLAP! ~ CLAP! ~ CLAP!CLAP!CLAP!!!

- ggunky


Bump?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 16 @ 5:51 PM ET
Timonen still not ruled out, looks like they're going to wait and see ho he feels after warmups.
- Jsaquella


Well that's good.. When I saw he was hurt last night, I almost had a heart attack.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 16 @ 5:51 PM ET
True

Defense hasn't been helping either in generating offense... A good first pass and a cohesive breakout does a lot for a team. But if you don't have the personnel or skill it's hard to adjust

- Chris48


And that's really where this team misses Carle. He's a player that played over 20 minutes a game. And had the ability to make precision passes while under pressure of distance to the forwards to start the offense the other way. Occasionally he would turn the puck over, but his good plays outweighed the bad exponentially. There's a reason why he was one of the top point producers for defenseman at ES in the entire League. He was so under appreciated by many. So now that they're missing that element. The Forwards have to adapt and come back deeper. So the passes are shorter, and less riskier. Which also would put them in a better position defensively, if there was a turnover. And it's either the players aren't doing it, or the Coaching hasn't adapted and changed in that area. Go watch LA in the Cup finals last Season. Look at the short crisp passes they made in their breakouts.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 16 @ 5:52 PM ET
Well that's good.. When I saw he was hurt last night, I almost had a heart attack.
- Hextall271


If he hasn't been ruled out yet, I imagine that any absence would be short term
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Feb 16 @ 5:59 PM ET
If he hasn't been ruled out yet, I imagine that any absence would be short term
- Jsaquella


The guy is amazing. He must eat Ibuprofen omelets for breakfast.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 16 @ 6:00 PM ET
And that's really where this team misses Carle. He's a player that played over 20 minutes a game. And had the ability to make precision passes while under pressure of distance to the forwards to start the offense the other way. Occasionally he would turn the puck over, but his good plays outweighed the bad exponentially. There's a reason why he was one of the top point producers for defenseman at ES in the entire League. He was so under appreciated by many. So now that they're missing that element. The Forwards have to adapt and come back deeper. So the passes are shorter, and less riskier. Which also would put them in a better position defensively, if there was a turnover. And it's either the players aren't doing it, or the Coaching hasn't adapted and changed in that area. Go watch LA in the Cup finals last Season. Look at the short crisp passes they made in their breakouts.
- MJL


I was upset when we lost Carle anddo believe he got a bad rap here.. I thought Tampa overpaid him, but seeing how coveted dmen of his skill are now, maybe he isn't.
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