Did you read this article ? The point is who is better and where Bieksa would fit on other clubs rosters.
No where is there mention of salary or cap hits.

How did I just "Throw it in there" ?

Unless you are talking about last night and your sister, i threw it in there
- gzatron

It is all part of the equation

Ok I will play.


Attitude Bieksa
Team player Bieksa
Cheerleader Bieksa
Toughness equal
Prettier Bieksa
Better shot Phaneuf
Better point getter Bieksa
Bigger distraction Phaneuf
Greedier Phaneuf
- VANTEL

In their defense, O'Reilly would be the best Centerman that they've had since Sundin. And Reimer has been pretty good this year.
- nucks_94

Plus O'Reilly plays a more complete game so you can't simply look at points alone.

No but hypothetically you're team captain in gym class, who do you pick?
- Morris

hmmmm....

the guy who help start a charity or the guy who used to hit on his teammates wives

I'll take Bieksa.

And they wonder why they suck.

so we'll trade you a number 1 goalie for Gardener or Rielly.

NO DEAL

Would you take a 2nd or 3rd line centre?

Hell yah!
- IanEsplen

Leafs will make the playoffs this year they have improved immensely.

They don't need Lu but if they had him they would be a contender for 1 st or second. for the next few years.

They have scoring , team toughness a very decent D and now need a legit goalie.

They went from 13 th last year to #4 this year.

Leaf fans are funny...in their thread today they were fine with letting Gardiner or reilly go for O'reilly from colorado...so much for untouchable defensmen.
- rune_74

I saw a Leafs fan ask an Oilers fan if he thought Hemsky, some top Oilers prospect, and a 1st was enough to get Craig Anderson...

he has you there Vantel

I don't give a damn about contracts. I think Bieksa is better.

Case closed
- IanEsplen

Read my list ,I still take KB.

Bieksa has at times picked this team up on his back and pushed them. Phaneuf has always been a me first player.

Leafs will make the playoffs this year they have improved immensely.

They don't need Lu but if they had him they would be a contender for 1 st or second. for the next few years.

They have scoring , team toughness a very decent D and now need a legit goalie.

They went from 13 th last year to #4 this year.
- VANTEL

The NE division will be good for the Leafs this year. They won't beat Boston most of the time, but they seem to have the Habs number, Buffalo is in shambles, and Ottawa just lost their best player. That's a lot of games that the Leafs should win.

last season Bieksa was 18th in Norris voting.

Guess who wasn't on the list?

he has you there Vantel

I don't give a damn about contracts. I think Bieksa is better.

Case closed
- IanEsplen

not about the KB vs DP, just in general.

The NE division will be good for the Leafs this year. They won't beat Boston most of the time, but they seem to have the Habs number, Buffalo is in shambles, and Ottawa just lost their best player. That's a lot of games that the Leafs should win.
- nucks_94

I think Leafs toughness is as good as Bostons.

The Kadri third line is playing very good.

It is closer than people think. I think Leafs and Boston will battle all year.

Read my list ,I still take KB.

Bieksa has at times picked this team up on his back and pushed them. Phaneuf has always been a me first player.
- VANTEL

He scores , he hits ,he fights ,and he stands up for his teammates. He is a good guy in the community and he has a very good cap hit.

Ask yourself would you rather pay pay 2 mil more for Phaneuf or 2.5 mil more for Campbell, if the answer is yes then you get what you deserve.

I would take KB on my team anytime.
- VANTEL

We all watch a lot of hockey and obviously we watch our teams the most. My personal opinion is I would take Bieksa over both Campbell and Dion...for the Canucks. I love the intensity he brings and that he can become one tough, badazz son of a b!tch when he wants to and in the playoffs. I not gonna be a homer and say the guy is a #1 D-man but Vancouver doesn't really have one of those and in my opinion Bieksa is pretty damn clutch in pressure situations. He scored some big goals for this team. To me, for this team, he's a high #2 D-man who I would want on the ice when the game is on the line.

not about the KB vs DP, just in general.
- OilHorse

Sak yourself this . All things equal ,how many teams would Bieksa on their team and how many would take Phanuef if they were to be paid 5 Mil

We all watch a lot of hockey and obviously we watch our teams the most. My personal opinion is I would take Bieksa over both Campbell and Dion...for the Canucks. I love the intensity he brings and that he can become one tough, badazz son of a b!tch when he wants to and in the playoffs. I not gonna be a homer and say the guy is a #1 D-man but Vancouver doesn't really have one of those and in my opinion Bieksa is pretty damn clutch in pressure situations. He scored some big goals for this team. To me, for this team, he's a high #2 D-man who I would want on the ice when the game is on the line.
- CanUSA17

THis

Can you write us another poem? That was fun...
- nucks_94

that was Bow Down by westside Connection

I'm not sure how, but I'm fairly certain that Matt Cooke is responsible for Manny's latest bout with injury.

I'm not sure how, but I'm fairly certain that Matt Cooke is responsible for Manny's latest bout with injury.
- 1970vintage

The guy can't get any respect.

that was Bow Down by westside Connection
- gzatron

Modified to make you sound cool on an internet forum. They'd be so proud.

I'm not sure how, but I'm fairly certain that Matt Cooke is responsible for Manny's latest bout with injury.
- 1970vintage

I think this is a good thing for Manny. I think Gillis is showing Manny he wants him to be a part of the Canucks/Wolves , and will soon be an associate coach.

Bob McKenzie‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

Sounds like there's a good chance, if all goes well, Ryan Kesler plays for VAN tomorrow night vs DAL.


He was full gear and colours today

hmmmm....

the guy who help start a charity or the guy who used to hit on his teammates wives

I'll take Bieksa.
- IanEsplen

Jeez, a lot can happen during a Vancouver gym period

last season Bieksa was 18th in Norris voting.

Guess who wasn't on the list?
- IanEsplen

Justin Schultz - but wait till this year Hoo Boy!

Jeez, a lot can happen during a Vancouver gym period
- Morris

I think they are all having thier period.

Bob McKenzie‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

Sounds like there's a good chance, if all goes well, Ryan Kesler plays for VAN tomorrow night vs DAL.


He was full gear and colours today
- VANTEL

If our win streak ends tomorrow you know who to blame.