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pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Feb 14 @ 2:40 PM ET
Whats his injury?
Sucks cuz i would take manny over ebbet and day of the week

- RF_4eva


not disclosed. Ebbets gone too kesler may be back tomorrow
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Feb 14 @ 2:40 PM ET
He's a good player don't get me wrong but seriously better than Phaneuf????
I'd rather have Kostka

- Leaffan8113


Canucks have 6-7 defensemen better then Phaneuf... Bieksa included.
nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Feb 14 @ 2:40 PM ET
Your late were talking about manny now
- pker2theend

And the fact that Kesler is likely going to play tomorrow.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 14 @ 2:41 PM ET
Canucks have 6-7 defensemen better then Phaneuf... Bieksa included.
- Scooby_Doo

Cam Barker is better than Phaneuf!
alcatrazhockey
Joined: 03.03.2011

Feb 14 @ 2:42 PM ET
I think Manny is going to be a great coach one day, and I hope he sticks around to teach Schroeder how to win draws.
gzatron
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.27.2012

Feb 14 @ 2:43 PM ET
So your back Mr. Gzatron
Answer my question

- RF_4eva

I already told you no. I like girls.

Good luck to you tho. You are in the right city to find love
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 14 @ 2:45 PM ET
He scores , he hits ,he fights ,and he stands up for his teammates. He is a good guy in the community and he has a very good cap hit.

Ask yourself would you rather pay pay 2 mil more for Phaneuf or 2.5 mil more for Campbell, if the answer is yes then you get what you deserve.

I would take KB on my team anytime.
Canuckfan2006
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.24.2006

Feb 14 @ 2:46 PM ET
no complaints here of any Canucks D.......
CanUSA17
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Schaumburg, IL
Joined: 10.11.2010

Feb 14 @ 2:46 PM ET
pound for pound, toughest guy in the league

so say many

- hnic




THIS
gzatron
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.27.2012

Feb 14 @ 2:46 PM ET
He scores , he hits ,he fights ,and he stands up for his teammates. He is a good guy in the community and he has a very good cap hit.

Ask yourself would you rather pay pay 2 mil more for Phaneuf or 2.5 mil more for Campbell, if the answer is yes then you get what you deserve.

I would take KB on my team anytime.

- VANTEL

I beleive the argument is where would he fit in the club, not who has the best contract value. Phaneuf is overpaid, but salary aside who wouldnt rather have him over Blechsa
rune_74
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 01.14.2007

Feb 14 @ 2:47 PM ET
Leaf fans are funny...in their thread today they were fine with letting Gardiner or reilly go for O'reilly from colorado...so much for untouchable defensmen.
moondawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Island, BC
Joined: 02.01.2007

Feb 14 @ 2:47 PM ET
Sucks for Manny, Hope his eye injury isn't going to cause him huge issues throughout his life. Sounds like it might be career ending though.

I'm assuming it is his eye.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 14 @ 2:48 PM ET
I beleive the argument is where would he fit in the club, not who has the best contract value. Phaneuf is overpaid, but salary aside who wouldnt rather have him over Blechsa
- gzatron

See my earlier post. I would rather have Cam Barker over Phaneuf.
Your nickname for Bieksa is very clever.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 14 @ 2:49 PM ET
Sucks for Manny, Hope his eye injury isn't going to cause him huge issues throughout his life. Sounds like it might be career ending though.

I'm assuming it is his eye.

- moondawg



I think his eye is the same and this is cap strategy. He will make a fine coach .He is on reserve so if needed he could come back
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Feb 14 @ 2:50 PM ET
yep, just like you always back up your comments.

Please make a case as to why Phaneuf is a better defenceman.

- IanEsplen


Bit late but, Mark Fraser +11. Best Dman in the NHL. Franking mental.
moondawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Island, BC
Joined: 02.01.2007

Feb 14 @ 2:50 PM ET
I think his eye is the same and this is cap strategy. He will make a fine coach .He is on reserve so if needed he could come back
- VANTEL



Wow, did they need to clear space for Kesler. I knew they were tight against the cap, but that tight?
Canuckleafer
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.18.2013

Feb 14 @ 2:50 PM ET
He's a good player don't get me wrong but seriously better than Phaneuf????
I'd rather have Kostka

- Leaffan8113


If you are looking at it from purely an offensive standpoint, you are correct. But, from a defensive aspect, Bieksa is stronger. I don't know how many times I've seen players skate right around Dion. If Phaneuf was able to play more consistently, I'd be willing to agree with you. Some nights he seems decent in his own end and others-he's just terrible.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Feb 14 @ 2:50 PM ET
See my earlier post. I would rather have Cam Barker over Phaneuf.
Your nickname for Bieksa is very clever.

- Marwood

actually earlier you said "Cam Barker is better than Phaneuf!"

you can prefer whomever you want but Barker is not better than Phaneuf.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 14 @ 2:50 PM ET
I beleive the argument is where would he fit in the club, not who has the best contract value. Phaneuf is overpaid, but salary aside who wouldnt rather have him over Blechsa
- gzatron

You can't just throw it in as a matter of fact. Phaneuf would not play for 4.6 so it is a stupid arguement.

Phaneuf say his pricetag is 6.5 and wont play for less and Bieksa is 4.6. I take Bieksa at 4.6 every time.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 14 @ 2:52 PM ET
Wow, did they need to clear space for Kesler. I knew they were tight against the cap, but that tight?
- moondawg



No but they had to clear a roster spot and this way it frees up about an extra Mil (pro rated) for future deals.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Feb 14 @ 2:52 PM ET
You can't just throw it in as a matter of fact. Phaneuf would not play for 4.6 so it is a stupid arguement.

Phaneuf say his pricetag is 6.5 and wont play for less and Bieksa is 4.6. I take Bieksa at 4.6 every time.

- VANTEL

No but hypothetically you're team captain in gym class, who do you pick?
immature_male
Vancouver Canucks
Location: delta, BC
Joined: 06.15.2011

Feb 14 @ 2:54 PM ET
Wow, did they need to clear space for Kesler. I knew they were tight against the cap, but that tight?
- moondawg


I know we are pretty close to the top, why they were hoping to move Luo, and they HAVE to move Luo before next year when cap goes down.
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Feb 14 @ 2:54 PM ET
Leaf fans are funny...in their thread today they were fine with letting Gardiner or reilly go for O'reilly from colorado...so much for untouchable defensmen.
- rune_74


And they wonder why they suck.

so we'll trade you a number 1 goalie for Gardener or Rielly.

NO DEAL

Would you take a 2nd or 3rd line centre?

Hell yah!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 14 @ 2:55 PM ET
No but hypothetically you're team captain in gym class, who do you pick?
- Morris



Ok I will play.


Attitude Bieksa
Team player Bieksa
Cheerleader Bieksa
Toughness equal
Prettier Bieksa
Better shot Phaneuf
Better point getter Bieksa
Bigger distraction Phaneuf
Greedier Phaneuf
nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Feb 14 @ 2:55 PM ET
And they wonder why they suck.

so we'll trade you a number 1 goalie for Gardener or Rielly.

NO DEAL

Would you take a 2nd or 3rd line centre?

Hell yah!

- IanEsplen

In their defense, O'Reilly would be the best Centerman that they've had since Sundin. And Reimer has been pretty good this year.
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