well they have, so your assumption is incorrect.
- Homer

I know they have.
That is what I was saying.
Perhaps you misunderstood.
Anyone, including you that said they have not (a few days ago) I said are smoking good stuff if they really thought the Sabres had not asked about ROR.

I stopped reading at "O'Reilly would be a perfect fit for the Sabres coach" . There's the Sabres #1 problem. Finding players to fit their coach instead of the other way around. All it does is speculate that O'Reilly would be great here.
- sbroads24

ok, Ennis is too small and not very good in his own zone and sucks at face offs. ROR is none of that and still plenty skilled. I'd take him all day over the skater boy.

I know they have.
That is what I was saying.
Perhaps you misunderstood.
Anyone, including you that said they have not (a few days ago) I said are smoking good stuff if they really thought the Sabres had not asked about ROR.
- TerryPegs

youre right, I misread.....my apologies.

I stopped reading at "O'Reilly would be a perfect fit for the Sabres coach" . There's the Sabres #1 problem. Finding players to fit their coach instead of the other way around. All it does is speculate that O'Reilly would be great here.
- sbroads24

that is one thing we never trade for the "perfect" guy. ID have given my left nut (if my fiance let me have it back) for a nice two way guy who can kill a penalty so the next time we hear jochen's name its cause hes now in the front office doing something in scouting wise in germany

Read the whole post !! It is a skill that goes away if you do not work on it . With our performances against back up goalies it seems we cannot shoot with any accuracy . What are your constructive suggestions . And don't say fire or trade someone . Because we all know that is not happening anytime soon.
- Maximum Signal

I wasn't trying t be antagonistic, merely expressing how ridiculous it is that we could even suggest they need shooting practice. It should never be so bad that your fan base thinks you no longer can do one of the most important fundamental skills in hockey. My original comment came off as critical towards you, but I was more or less trying to agree with you by sarcastically pointing out they shouldn't have to be taught to shoot.

Honestly I'd say the season is a wash. I'd use it to prepare for next year (assuming we can't trade or fire anyone, per your request) to get defensive pairings clicking and to get some additional experience for younger players. I'd find as much nhl time for the future sabres on the Amerks as I could and see if I couldn't build a stronger foundation for our younger players.

Then I would fire the gm and head coach, and try to move something around for a decent piece that could score with some regularity on a second line.

The defense... I dunno. Burn them?

See, I heard it was a roster player and a prospect.


But, if it's McNabb and a 1st (I know you said "start with", but if the Avs can't sign this guy, then they are the ones backed into a corner), then do it.


With the glut of D we have (McNabb, Pysyk, McCabe, Gauthier-Leduc...I guess you'd have to include Myers and Ehrhoff in there, since both are signed for the next 80 years), and no limits financially (find another d-man in free agency, if need be), I'd say giving up McNabb and a 1st (if that's what it would take) sounds good to me.
- Powerslave

ok, so lets say it true, roster player and prospect..and who knows if it is true or not...

would you do Ennis or Foligno + McNabb for him?

youre right, I misread.....my apologies.
- Homer

No worries.

ok, Ennis is too small and not very good in his own zone and sucks at face offs. ROR is none of that and still plenty skilled. I'd take him all day over the skater boy.
- Homer

He maybe better than Ennis, he has yet to prove he is. They are both 22 years old. One has produced since he has been in the NHL, the other did for the last 80 games. Ennis+ Mcnabb or Sekera is over payment. A swap I would be fine with.

I think Ennis gets very under rated by Sabres fans. The is no reason that ROR is rated as a better player. Ennis is a goal scorer and playmaker. ROR has had 1 good season, as far as him being a shutdown 2 way player he was a -1, while Landeskog was a plus 20. He's over rated IMO
- sbroads24

People don't like his long hair...

ok, so lets say it true, roster player and prospect..and who knows if it is true or not...

would you do Ennis or Foligno + McNabb for him?
- Homer

I might do Ennis + McNabb. Perhaps.

Not Foligno.

If they insist on Foligno, then hang up.

ok, so lets say it true, roster player and prospect..and who knows if it is true or not...

would you do Ennis or Foligno + McNabb for him?
- Homer

Ennis +3rd. That's about as far as I would go, if that doesn't do it. O well

I might do Ennis + McNabb. Perhaps.

Not Foligno.

If they insist on Foligno, then hang up.
- Powerslave

I would back you up on this.

He maybe better than Ennis, he has yet to prove he is. They are both 22 years old. One has produced since he has been in the NHL, the other did for the last 80 games. Ennis+ Mcnabb or Sekera is over payment. A swap I would be fine with.
- sbroads24

all you're looking at is G A PTS when you say produce...I guess our definitions of producing are different.

They have, They have, They have....hopefully ive said it enough now.
- Homer

I'm confused.

I dont care what anyone here says that has supposed inside info.
Anyone that thinks the Sabres have not even kicked the tires regarding ROR is smoking some pretty good stuff.






- TerryPegs

guess you didnt read my post last night
- Homer

No I have not.
What I said was in no means to slur anyone.
There is simply no way the Sabres have not asked about ROR. I dont need anyone on the inside to tell me that.
- TerryPegs

well they have, so your assumption is incorrect.
- Homer

He says no way they haven't kicked the tires. He says again, no way they haven't asked, and you say that they have, and his assumption is wrong.

So if they have, they have, they have.... why is his assumption incorrect.

I guess you haven't said it enough now, since you're contradicting yourself

ok, so lets say it true, roster player and prospect..and who knows if it is true or not...

would you do Ennis or Foligno + McNabb for him?
- Homer

Ennis + McNabb - yes in the heartbeat

Foligno + McNabb - not sure.....probably not. We would be trading away a player that this team needs, rather than getting rid of a player we don't need i.e. Ennis

youre right, I misread.....my apologies.
- Homer

so you guys worked it out while i was copying/pasting...

all you're looking at is G A PTS when you say produce...I guess our definitions of producing are different.
- Homer

drives me crazy when "hockey fans" only talk about this

I might do Ennis + McNabb. Perhaps.

Not Foligno.

If they insist on Foligno, then hang up.
- Powerslave

really? A guy that has been playing on the top 2 lines and the PP and has one goal in 13 games is the reason why you'd hang up????

People don't like his long hair...


- Smittyx36

I don't like how often he enters the offensive zone by himself trying to blow past three guys. I dunno if he thinks he's the next coming of Wayne Gretzky or doesn't know what else to do with the puck.

Seems to think he's way better then he is. Tries to be pretty all the time. Sometimes simple works.

so you guys worked it out while i was copying/pasting...
- keptupl8

yes, I screwed up

all you're looking at is G A PTS when you say produce...I guess our definitions of producing are different.
- Homer

So you wanna trade away the only guy thats not on the 1st line that is actually scoring goals? I like ROR but not for a guy that we need. Who will replace what ennis can do? No one ATM. We already got rid of Roy.

I personally would keep ennis until you can replace his scoring.

all you're looking at is G A PTS when you say produce...I guess our definitions of producing are different.
- Homer

Agree.

O'Reilly makes this team better. At 50-60 points/year (and that's probably not even his ceiling. He is, after all, only 22) and as responsible as anything defensively, it's a win/win.

Irrelevant, so deleted. Thread is moving so fast right now!

So you wanna trade away the only guy thats not on the 1st line that is actually scoring goals? I like ROR but not for a guy that we need. Who will replace what ennis can do? No one ATM. We already got rid of Roy.

I personally would keep ennis until you can replace his scoring.
- Smittyx36

SO if ROR kills one penalty that would have been a ppg which could help the sabres win say 5 more games than a guy who has scored a couple of times?

Agree.

O'Reilly makes this team better. At 50-60 points/year (and that's probably not even his ceiling. He is, after all, only 22) and as responsible as anything defensively, it's a win/win.
- Powerslave

Its a shame we have to give up a guy like ennis though. We need secondary scoring and trading the only guy that is doing that isn't very smart.