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hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 15 @ 10:46 AM ET
Jordan Eberle was their first round pick the following draft. As of right now it looks like Eberle will be a better player than Vanek, he's already well on his way.
- sbroads24


incorrect
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 15 @ 10:47 AM ET
they won 41 games the following year so as a "cup contender" im sure a lot of people would want to come.
- hubie

I disagree. how can you attract players as a 9th seed team with a aging goalie and D line and no future with drafting because they traded there first rounders
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Feb 15 @ 10:47 AM ET
even if it was top 10, the Sabres track record for 1st round talent is terrible.
- RynoBull


I would say at that point.. yes we would have f'd it up... but in the last 2-3 years.. darcy has been moderately good with his selections in the draft.. only 4% of all players drafted ever make it to the NHL.
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Feb 15 @ 10:48 AM ET
Jordan Eberle was their first round pick the following draft. As of right now it looks like Eberle will be a better player than Vanek, he's already well on his way.
- sbroads24


You assume to much. True, he might be better. But you don't know if the Sabres would've drafted him, and you don't know if he would have flourished in Lindys' system. Not many have.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 15 @ 10:48 AM ET
incorrect
- hubie

As in??
gilbert pierogi
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo-ish, NY
Joined: 12.22.2006

Feb 15 @ 10:48 AM ET
Thats true but your saying them getting Vanek and losing the several 1st round picks will attract players to come to your ATM crappy team?
- Smittyx36

This whole debate could be solved with a very special episode of Fringe.
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 15 @ 10:48 AM ET
incorrect
- hubie

Eberle was there 22 overall pick. We wouldn't have gotten that pick. Although we did pass on him. That was the year we drafted ennis and myers.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 15 @ 10:49 AM ET
I would say at that point.. yes we would have f'd it up... but in the last 2-3 years.. darcy has been moderately good with his selections in the draft.. only 4% of all players drafted ever make it to the NHL.
- JVince11

Ok whats the math on 1st round picks. And we would have had 8 of them in the last 4 years
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 15 @ 10:49 AM ET
As in??
- sbroads24



technically its anaheims pick
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 15 @ 10:50 AM ET
I would say at that point.. yes we would have f'd it up... but in the last 2-3 years.. darcy has been moderately good with his selections in the draft.. only 4% of all players drafted ever make it to the NHL.
- JVince11

Its really to early to tell. Myers and Ennis so far...

Grigs? Armia? Girgs? Pysyk? Those will be awnsered in 3-4 years.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 15 @ 10:50 AM ET
I disagree. how can you attract players as a 9th seed team with a aging goalie and D line and no future with drafting because they traded there first rounders
- Smittyx36


With SOurrey and Gilbert on the point of a powerplay with van in front points are scored games are won people will come ray people will most definetly come
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Feb 15 @ 10:51 AM ET
Ok whats the math on 1st round picks. And we would have had 8 of them in the last 4 years
- sbroads24


There is no way that that is the math on 1st round picks only...

really?
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 15 @ 10:51 AM ET
Eberle was there 22 overall pick. We wouldn't have gotten that pick. Although we did pass on him. That was the year we drafted ennis and myers.
- Smittyx36


myers was edmontons pick
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 15 @ 10:51 AM ET
technically its anaheims pick
- hubie

Ok fair enough but still. I know it's hindsight and it doesn't matter now, but to say we are in better shape than EDM is false IMO.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 15 @ 10:52 AM ET
myers was edmontons pick
- hubie



4.* The Edmonton Oilers' first-round pick went to the Buffalo Sabres as the result of a trade on June 20, 2008, that sent the 13th-overall pick and a third-round pick in 2009 to the Los Angeles Kings in exchange for this pick.
Los Angeles acquired previously as the result of a trade on June 20, 2008, that sent the 17th-overall pick and the 28th-overall pick to the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for this pick.
Anaheim acquired previously, along with second and third-round picks, from Edmonton as the result of Anaheim's decision not to match an Oilers' offer sheet to restricted free agent Dustin Penner on August 2, 2007.[3]

hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 15 @ 10:52 AM ET
myers was edmontons pick
- hubie



4.* The Edmonton Oilers' first-round pick went to the Buffalo Sabres as the result of a trade on June 20, 2008, that sent the 13th-overall pick and a third-round pick in 2009 to the Los Angeles Kings in exchange for this pick.
Los Angeles acquired previously as the result of a trade on June 20, 2008, that sent the 17th-overall pick and the 28th-overall pick to the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for this pick.
Anaheim acquired previously, along with second and third-round picks, from Edmonton as the result of Anaheim's decision not to match an Oilers' offer sheet to restricted free agent Dustin Penner on August 2, 2007.[3]

Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 15 @ 10:52 AM ET
myers was edmontons pick
- hubie

Was he? How did we get that. I forgot
BuffaloKyle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Hornell, NY
Joined: 02.07.2009

Feb 15 @ 10:52 AM ET
Edm. Roster would have looked like this.
Ales Hemsky
Shawn Horcoff
Sam Gagner
Dustin Penner
Andrew Cogliano
Robert Nilsson
Jarret Stoll
Tom Gilbert
Kyle Brodziak
Joni Pitkanen
Marty Reasoner
Curtis Glencross*Thomas Vanek
Mathieu Garon
Dwayne Roloson
That looks brutal....

- Smittyx36

hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 15 @ 10:52 AM ET
Ok fair enough but still. I know it's hindsight and it doesn't matter now, but to say we are in better shape than EDM is false IMO.
- sbroads24



as of right now edm is way better

they have atleast 10 assests to trade we however have maybe 5
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 15 @ 10:53 AM ET
There is no way that that is the math on 1st round picks only...

really?

- JVince11

What? What percentage of 1st round pick make it to the NHL? You said 4% of picks make it, were not talking about rounds after the 1st.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 15 @ 10:54 AM ET
What? What percentage of 1st round pick make it to the NHL? You said 4% of picks make it, were not talking about rounds after the 1st.
- sbroads24



4% cant be right
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 15 @ 10:54 AM ET
What? What percentage of 1st round pick make it to the NHL? You said 4% of picks make it, were not talking about rounds after the 1st.
- sbroads24

Its much higher then that for the 1st round. Just look at the drafts from 2006-2011.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 15 @ 10:56 AM ET
4% cant be right
- hubie

It's not because that would mean only 8 players of every draft make it to the NHL
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Feb 15 @ 10:56 AM ET
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keptupl8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We've had our pee pee slapped here, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 15 @ 10:57 AM ET
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