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rapperray
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: Thank God I don't live in NY anymore, NY
Joined: 02.22.2007

Feb 15 @ 9:57 AM ET
And yet another Friday evening to watch the undoing of the Sabres..........
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 15 @ 9:57 AM ET
Wrong. How are the Oilers doing since drafting those guys? Can't Score, Can't win. Always near teh bottom of the standings. Besides the Leafs, one of the worse teams in the league for the past decade.
- RynoBull

The Oilers are Terrible at breaking out of there zone "alot like the sabres". Clean that up and they would produce on offense.

The breakout is key to a good offense
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 15 @ 9:57 AM ET
Much better than the Oilers.
- RynoBull

Look at the standings and their roster. It has much more promise than ours.
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 15 @ 9:58 AM ET
Jordan Eberle- More goals assists and points than Vanek last season.
- sbroads24

And much younger. Funny thing is Eberle was there guys they drafted in the 20's!!! Yet he is easily there best guy.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 15 @ 9:59 AM ET
And much younger. Funny thing is Eberle was there guys they drafted in the 20's!!! Yet he is easily there best guy.
- Smittyx36

there is no way that Vanek is worth 4 1st round picks from EDM. Eberle and Hall alone make our team better
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 15 @ 10:01 AM ET
there is no way that Vanek is worth 4 1st round picks from EDM. Eberle and Hall alone make our team better
- sbroads24

I agree with you.

But who knows if this team would still be here if Vanek wasn't resigned.... You can't let drury, briere, and vanek leave.

Looking back obviously we all say we would rather have those draft picks. But it is what it is
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Feb 15 @ 10:03 AM ET
Hindsight, of course, is 20/20 but anyone that wouldn't take Hall, Nuge, Eberle and Yak in place of Vanek has their head screwed on backwards.

IMO Van wouldn't have fixed their mess so they would have STILL picked these guys anyways.

As it stands right now Edmonton > Buffalo. (which isn't saying much)
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Feb 15 @ 10:06 AM ET
Eberle,Hall > Vanek. Let alone 2 more 1st rounders. How is our team going with Vanek as the man ?
- sbroads24



First of all.... there is no way of knowing that Buffalo would of had the first overall selections in any of those seasons if they would have had vanek.. .they might of had 10+ area of 1st rounders.. maybe EDM would have attracted more talent there with Vanek in the fold... or maybe Buffalo would have signed a big money UFA with the money that Vanek currently gets.... there is no way of knowing..

To say that if Vanek would have left that Buffalo would have automatically gotten Eberle, Hall, RNH, or Yakupov.. is just ludicrous..
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Feb 15 @ 10:07 AM ET
Hindsight, of course, is 20/20 but anyone that wouldn't take Hall, Nuge, Eberle and Yak in place of Vanek has their head screwed on backwards.

IMO Van wouldn't have fixed their mess so they would have STILL picked these guys anyways.

As it stands right now Edmonton > Buffalo. (which isn't saying much)

- Pairo11


hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 15 @ 10:08 AM ET
I dated a girl 4 years ago now shes a lot hotter then she was back then .................... are we really bringing this back up.

Yes we would have had 4 picks whould it have been all top 5 picks we dont know. DO we even know we would have drafted nug or hall or brett connolly

stop dwelling on the past.
LamontSanford
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You Big Dummy
Joined: 01.13.2011

Feb 15 @ 10:08 AM ET
And yet another Friday evening to watch the undoing of the Sabres..........
- rapperray

Kinda Hoping for it. Someone should make a giant sign similar to the "Population Pominville" sign that simply says "TERRY, DO SOMETHING"
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Feb 15 @ 10:10 AM ET

- JVince11

I know right ?


I was just looking at the standings and points-wise the only two teams worse in the league are the defending Cup champs and lowly C-Bus. Even C-Bus recognized the disconnect and made a change.

If Buffalo were to play a 7 game series with any of the bottom feeders in this league RIGHT NOW Buffalo would lose the series. Things are THAT bad IMO...
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 15 @ 10:10 AM ET
First of all.... there is no way of knowing that Buffalo would of had the first overall selections in any of those seasons if they would have had vanek.. .they might of had 10+ area of 1st rounders.. maybe EDM would have attracted more talent there with Vanek in the fold... or maybe Buffalo would have signed a big money UFA with the money that Vanek currently gets.... there is no way of knowing..

To say that if Vanek would have left that Buffalo would have automatically gotten Eberle, Hall, RNH, or Yakupov.. is just ludicrous..

- JVince11
So the guys Edm got are the only good players drafted in the past couple drafts in the 1st round???

Reality is even if Edm. got Vanek they would still have been a bottom 10 team... I would still rather have 4 top 10 picks over Vanek if we would have kept drury and briere.
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Feb 15 @ 10:11 AM ET
I dated a girl 4 years ago now shes a lot hotter then she was back then .................... are we really bringing this back up.

Yes we would have had 4 picks whould it have been all top 5 picks we dont know. DO we even know we would have drafted nug or hall or brett connolly

stop dwelling on the past.

- hubie

Darcy = 'swing-and-a-miss'

He wouldn't have picked either of them.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 15 @ 10:13 AM ET
Darcy = 'swing-and-a-miss'

He wouldn't have picked either of them.

- Pairo11


exactly vanek would be worth atleast 5 wins a year so drafting first wit their pick unlikely with our pick maybe.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Feb 15 @ 10:13 AM ET
So the guys Edm got are the only good players drafted in the past couple drafts in the 1st round???

Reality is even if Edm. got Vanek they would still have been a bottom 10 team... I would still rather have 4 top 10 picks over Vanek if we would have kept drury and briere.

- Smittyx36


that is not reality.. that is your opinion.

hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 15 @ 10:14 AM ET
that is not reality.. that is your opinion.
- JVince11



un less he has a dilorian
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Feb 15 @ 10:14 AM ET
Much better than the Oilers.
- RynoBull

can't we all just agree that both teams suck?
keptupl8
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We've had our pee pee slapped here, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 15 @ 10:14 AM ET
I dated a girl 4 years ago now shes a lot hotter then she was back then .................... are we really bringing this back up.

Yes we would have had 4 picks whould it have been all top 5 picks we dont know. DO we even know we would have drafted nug or hall or brett connolly

stop dwelling on the past.

- hubie



The problem here is not the topic. It's that you're surprised by it...

How many times have Drury and Briere been discussed over the past few days (and years).
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 15 @ 10:16 AM ET
that is not reality.. that is your opinion.
- JVince11

Your right. butterfly affect! they get and Vanek and next thing you know they get a superstar goalie, top defensemen, and Hemsky becomes the next Crosby.

Your lying to yourself if you think Edm. who was in terrible shape getting Vanek would make them a top caliber team.

We Definitely would have gotten picks in the top 10. No doubt about it. Not an opinion, A fact.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 15 @ 10:16 AM ET


The problem here is not the topic. It's that you're surprised by it...

How many times have Drury and Briere been discussed over the past few days (and years).

- keptupl8



yeah makes me sick too. Atleast who I was dating in those days is not that atrractive anymore lol
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Feb 15 @ 10:16 AM ET
un less he has a dilorian
- hubie


In reality... if Vanek would have left.. that would have been Briere, Drury, and Vanek all lost in one off season...

Which then could have changed the chances of the Sabres resigning Miller and Pominville...

Even with some shiny new 1st round picks.. that doesn't usually sell as many tickets as it does to come see top NHL players every night. In addition to that, Buffalo was also hindering on bankruptcy for many years around this time period. We could have gone completely bankrupt and been sold and moved to WPG or Hamilton for all we know.
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 15 @ 10:17 AM ET
exactly vanek would be worth atleast 5 wins a year so drafting first wit their pick unlikely with our pick maybe.
- hubie

Anytime you draft top 5 chances are your getting a stud.
Smittyx36
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bustttt, NY
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 15 @ 10:18 AM ET
In reality... if Vanek would have left.. that would have been Briere, Drury, and Vanek all lost in one off season...

Which then could have changed the chances of the Sabres resigning Miller and Pominville...

Even with some shiny new 1st round picks.. that doesn't usually sell as many tickets as it does to come see top NHL players every night. In addition to that, Buffalo was also hindering on bankruptcy for many years around this time period. We could have gone completely bankrupt and been sold and moved to WPG or Hamilton for all we know.

- JVince11

that is not reality.. that is your opinion
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 15 @ 10:18 AM ET
Your right. butterfly affect! they get and Vanek and next thing you know they get a superstar goalie, top defensemen, and Hemsky becomes the next Crosby.

Your lying to yourself if you think Edm. who was in terrible shape getting Vanek would make them a top caliber team.

We Definitely would have gotten picks in the top 10. No doubt about it. Not an opinion, A fact.

- Smittyx36


so youre telling me a team who just made the playoffs brining on a guy to score 40 goals would all of a sudden loose by improving their team?
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