This is the part that scares me. The fact that he was so quick to make the jump to Russia and sign a 2 year deal to basically use that as a way to voice his disgust over the situation with his contract here is a bit discerning.

Who's to say that when he needs his next deal he isn't just as squirrelly about the whole thing?

Ennis makes less and has a higher ppg average. Why should O'Reilly get paid more?
- HonkFortheGoose

There might be something more to the AVS situation and O'Reilly we don't really know, he jumped to Russia during the lockout I believe but he would be an upgrade over Ennis. The price goes up with him because other teams want him and would have more to offer, if it was just the Sabres that may be different.

Ennis is to small we need bigger and stronger up the middle
- SABRES 89

Ya, I can see your point
I'd move either Ennis back to LW, or Grigorenko has played RW and moving him might get him some more icetime since he'll have less defensive responsibilities

Ennis has had a really nice start to his career though
He's looked good at both center & wing- its nice to have versatility in the line-up for when injuries occur

Clearly we'd have to give something good up for O'Reilly,
I'd say Girgensons would be the top piece if I were GM
We'd be trading "defensive" centers,
So it'd seem to fit for both teams

Darcy would have to be down right silly not to want a 23 yr old version of a Drury/Peca type center.
- sabresfandan

I'm sure they do like Homer said however the cost of him is what would scare him into saying no.

Yea unless you add a low round pick and another player, you won't get him for Ennis alone. Atleast not with other GM's involved.
- SABRES 89

Oh, I know that. I'm just saying based off of the numbers for each player, it would seem that giving up Ennis for him straight up would be a bad deal on our end. I get that they want more than that for O'Reilly, but really, who has the leverage here?

They have a guy that basically refuses to sign a contract with them at this point. I don't really understand why they think they can demand a top 6 player, a top prospect and a draft pick for him. Seems to be a bit much. Especially when you're talking about a guy who's career high for goals is 18. Jochen Hecht has a higher number than that.

Pysyk is going to have a good career. I just have a feeling about him. He's a very smooth skater and plays very well defensively. He's got a great first pass and has good chemistry with McNabb. If you don't want to move McNabb, you don't want to move Pysyk either.
- HonkFortheGoose

I like McNabb more honestly even though some say he's regressed I just really like and believe what he can bring to this team on a nightly basis. I'm optimistic on Pysyk too but if he's the extra piece that gets me O'Reilly I'd do it.

Ya, I can see your point
I'd move either Ennis back to LW, or Grigorenko has played RW and moving him might get him some more icetime since he'll have less defensive responsibilities

Ennis has had a really nice start to his career though
He's looked good at both center & wing- its nice to have versatility in the line-up for when injuries occur

Clearly we'd have to give something good up for O'Reilly,
I'd say Girgensons would be the top piece if I were GM
We'd be trading "defensive" centers,
So it'd seem to fit for both teams
- jdfitz77

I see your point but the AVS want an proven NHL player, D man and a pick I THINK. So I don't think that will work it would have to be Ennis, gotta give to get.

Oh, I know that. I'm just saying based off of the numbers for each player, it would seem that giving up Ennis for him straight up would be a bad deal on our end. I get that they want more than that for O'Reilly, but really, who has the leverage here?

They have a guy that basically refuses to sign a contract with them at this point. I don't really understand why they think they can demand a top 6 player, a top prospect and a draft pick for him. Seems to be a bit much. Especially when you're talking about a guy who's career high for goals is 18. Jochen Hecht has a higher number than that.
- HonkFortheGoose

Yeah but O'Reilly is still young and last year was his first season playing in a top 6 role.

They moved up in the draft to get Girgensons. He's not getting traded. That's not how Darcy works.
- HonkFortheGoose

You're prob right,
It's just what I'd do in my imaginary world where I'm the Sabres GM

Oh, I know that. I'm just saying based off of the numbers for each player, it would seem that giving up Ennis for him straight up would be a bad deal on our end. I get that they want more than that for O'Reilly, but really, who has the leverage here?

They have a guy that basically refuses to sign a contract with them at this point. I don't really understand why they think they can demand a top 6 player, a top prospect and a draft pick for him. Seems to be a bit much. Especially when you're talking about a guy who's career high for goals is 18. Jochen Hecht has a higher number than that.
- HonkFortheGoose

The Avs have the leverage because 6 teams are interested and who knows how many more, thats all the leverage they need. I'm sure they know Darcy's history so it wouldn't matter to them if the Sabres make a deal or not.

Dave Pagnotta of thefourthperiod.com is a legit source IMO they hardly ever have sabres rumors and Homer said today we are involved in this so lets hope Darcy somehow finds a way to get it done.
- sabresfandan

What did homer say?
I missed it

I like McNabb more honestly even though some say he's regressed I just really like and believe what he can bring to this team on a nightly basis. I'm optimistic on Pysyk too but if he's the extra piece that gets me O'Reilly I'd do it.
- sabresfandan

With the train wreck that is our defense right now, I wouldn't want to give up one of the guys that could very well be on a dominant pairing for years to come.

I realize you have to give to get, which is why I say Brennan. He's not a bad player. There just isn't room for him here right now. With Colorado losing Johnson for a while, Brennan can step in now and play.

The Avs have the leverage because 6 teams are interested and who knows how many more, thats all the leverage they need. I'm sure they know Darcy's history so it wouldn't matter to them if the Sabres make a deal or not.
- SABRES 89

I think the Avs will only deal him to an eastern conf team though so that eliminates a bunch of teams right off the bat.

What did homer say?
I missed it
- jdfitz77

He said we are interested in O'Reilly and kicking the tires.

Yeah but O'Reilly is still young and last year was his first season playing in a top 6 role.
- sabresfandan

Again, they have no leverage though. They really don't.

What did homer say?
I missed it
- jdfitz77

homer said they are interested and I think he mentioned Ennis, I think.

With the train wreck that is our defense right now, I wouldn't want to give up one of the guys that could very well be on a dominant pairing for years to come.

I realize you have to give to get, which is why I say Brennan. He's not a bad player. There just isn't room for him here right now. With Colorado losing Johnson for a while, Brennan can step in now and play.
- HonkFortheGoose

I'd do that deal you mentioned but I don't think the Avs would. I've also heard they are set on defense in their system now so maybe they would want a forward prospect from us. I wish we could do Ennis,Adam and a pick for ROR

Again, they have no leverage though. They really don't.
- HonkFortheGoose

I think a lot of people think the Avs are gonna wait and wait to trade him but I think he'll be moved sooner than later.

I'd do that deal you mentioned but I don't think the Avs would. I've also heard they are set on defense in their system now so maybe they would want a forward prospect from us. I wish we could do Ennis,Adam and a pick for ROR
- sabresfandan

I know Adam isn't a favorite in the organization, but I think a change of scenery could do him some good. And he can step in and play in the NHL now. He's already played NHL games before. I just don't think they'd do that deal though.

I'd be ok with Ennis, Adam, Brennan and a late draft pick though. If it could get the deal done without having to give up any of the other 3 prospects we have in Rochester that I wouldn't want to part with.

Again, they have no leverage though. They really don't.
- HonkFortheGoose

The Avs have all the leverage because of the amount of teams that are interested, they can pick the best deal.

Stafford better wake up. Quickly.

Great line, Garth. Your man crush (until Grigorenko arrived) has nothing to worry about. 4 million guaranteed. An "A" on his jersey. Couldn't trade him for pucks.

I think a lot of people think the Avs are gonna wait and wait to trade him but I think he'll be moved sooner than later.
- sabresfandan

I have a feeling this is the Rick Nash thing all over again.

I know Adam isn't a favorite in the organization, but I think a change of scenery could do him some good. And he can step in and play in the NHL now. He's already played NHL games before. I just don't think they'd do that deal though.

I'd be ok with Ennis, Adam, Brennan and a late draft pick though. If it could get the deal done without having to give up any of the other 3 prospects we have in Rochester that I wouldn't want to part with.
- HonkFortheGoose

Yeah forward prospects I wouldn't deal are Grigo,Girgensons and Armia

IMO I think the Sens are going to get real desperate very soon.

Yeah forward prospects I wouldn't deal are Grigo,Girgensons and Armia
- sabresfandan

Ennis, Adam and Brennen?

he's been hurt for forever, and vancouver has cap problems, does anybody think Ryan Kesler could be traded? (not saying to sabres, but maybe, but just in general)