Aint that the truth. But I have a fond spot for big nasty "D" men. Ever since we lost Chara.
- SCLI

Im fond of them too. One of the many reasons I do not like the team we have

Hey LGI. You think some of us are over the top with criticism?

Check out this little ditty I found on IPB.


I'm so sick of the management, I'm a diehard islander fan for life and I can't take watching this crap every night, wang snow and crappy are finishing off what mike milbury destroyed, can someone save this organization already we are the laughing stock of the NHL and no body gives two poops about us, but snow and wang things are getting better, f*** the both of you, I knew this season was going to suck after watching our ahl team beat our NHL team in the blue and white scrimmage, that obviously means our prospects are really good so Cappy stop going to other ahl games in the offseason and build on the great talent that we have, it's so pathetic how every ingle fan knows what to do in order of rebuilding this team and our dumbass management have their heads up their asses when it comes down to getting on track and being a dynasty once again

Soon as I read this. I thought of you.
- SCLI

Delivery was bad but the content rings true

Do you really not understand his point? This is why people love you so much
- Cptmjl

you are so unenjoyable to be around...even in cyber world.

Hey LGI. You think some of us are over the top with criticism?

Check out this little ditty I found on IPB.


I'm so sick of the management, I'm a diehard islander fan for life and I can't take watching this crap every night, wang snow and crappy are finishing off what mike milbury destroyed, can someone save this organization already we are the laughing stock of the NHL and no body gives two poops about us, but snow and wang things are getting better, f*** the both of you, I knew this season was going to suck after watching our ahl team beat our NHL team in the blue and white scrimmage, that obviously means our prospects are really good so Cappy stop going to other ahl games in the offseason and build on the great talent that we have, it's so pathetic how every ingle fan knows what to do in order of rebuilding this team and our dumbass management have their heads up their asses when it comes down to getting on track and being a dynasty once again

Soon as I read this. I thought of you.
- SCLI

relative to the poop that captaindouche says, this is tame!!! notice the bold, he at least acknowledged the prospects the islanders have are PROJECTED to be good.

i happen to agree with it...i would just leave garth and cappy out of it...I feel, it all comes from the top.

why are you talking about comeau?!!? how is it his fault that the islanders arent good?
- LetsGoIsles

If comeau, bailey and okposo all reached and sustained their potential like Snow thought they would 3 or 4 years ago would this team not be better? One guy is now gone, and the other two have 5 combined points this year. That's all I'm saying.

If comeau, bailey and okposo all reached and sustained their potential like Snow thought they would 3 or 4 years ago would this team not be better? One guy is now gone, and the other two have 5 combined points this year. That's all I'm saying.
- Isles316

was comeau ever considered a top talent?

I thought KO was drafted in 06?
- Jethro09[/quote

It was 06 yes, Bailey 08. Still i think Bailey will standout vs KO this year.

I think they hope KO gets a little streak going so they can move him. B/c when they ready to bring NINO up its His spot he is taken.

I still dont get how you guys so hard on Nielsen, he is our best two player player on team. Yes I agree he not a #2 center but who is? I think Cizikis well eventually take that role over from Nielsen but he not better than him right now.

I still so annoyed Ullstrom got benched for Boulton. Hickey while minus player has played well. they are all minus on our defense. having Ricky D drop 5 goal other night, and Nabby 4 the night befor hurt the whole teams +/-.

Reasoner, Boulton and Finley should be Waived.

Delivery was bad but the content rings true
- Cptmjl

So are you saying that with some tutoring. He could become a future member of the Wolf Pack?

was comeau ever considered a top talent?
- LetsGoIsles

I think the organization considered him a top 6 forward for us.

Especially after his 26 (?) goal season.

Picking this team over your wife is the ultimate insult
- Cptmjl

Yeah....but it's against the RANGERS!

was comeau ever considered a top talent?
- LetsGoIsles

Not everybody is going to be top talent. Still most thought he would be a top 6 forward or at worst case effective 3rd liner. He became none of the above

was comeau ever considered a top talent?
- LetsGoIsles

Not to mention he was a Milbury pick

was comeau ever considered a top talent?
- LetsGoIsles

I think after 2010-2011 season he was considered a big part of their future, whether he was a 2nd liner or 3rd liner. He did score 24 goals, hit, kill penalties. My point is, what player has taken over his role since he was waived? They havent replaced that. Ullstrom? He has 6 career goals.

Fans of other teams ask/tell me why isn't this team farther along? Well, comeau sucking out of nowhere,okposo and bailey being disappointments and PA walking have a lot to do with that. Not every roster player is a star or top 6 forward, but the guys on this roster that aren't legitimate top 6 forwards wouldn't be on many teams in the NHL right now except for Matt Martin.

Not everybody is going to be top talent. Still most thought he would be a top 6 forward or at worst case effective 3rd liner. He became none of the above
- Vukota

I never liked Comeau. Much like Okposo, his goals always seemded to come at garbage time. I spent plenty of time debating here and on a couple of other boards whether he should get top 6 icetime. That said, I had no problem with him as a 3rd liner. I don't think he would have been satisfied with that role at the time. but now?

I think after 2010-2011 season he was considered a big part of their future, whether he was a 2nd liner or 3rd liner. He did score 24 goals, hit, kill penalties. My point is, what player has taken over his role since he was waived? They havent replaced that. Ullstrom? He has 6 career goals.

Fans of other teams ask/tell me why isn't this team farther along? Well, comeau sucking out of nowhere,okposo and bailey being disappointments and PA walking have a lot to do with that. Not every roster player is a star or top 6 forward, but the guys on this roster that aren't legitimate top 6 forwards wouldn't be on many teams in the NHL right now except for Matt Martin.
- Isles316

To me, the biggest factor is this. If you can't attract established talent, you're doomed to wait for enough of your talent to mature into their projected roles. For a dman this typically takes at least 4-5 years. Forwards 2-4 years. We had NO dmen worth mentioning in our system and it's killed us. We have the prospects in the system now that MAY develop into those roles but it wasn't going to happen within the 5 year frame of the reboot. It's simply too difficult to expect a fast or even typical turn-around for a franchise that doesn't bring in established talent to mix with their homegrown talent..

I think after 2010-2011 season he was considered a big part of their future, whether he was a 2nd liner or 3rd liner. He did score 24 goals, hit, kill penalties. My point is, what player has taken over his role since he was waived? They havent replaced that. Ullstrom? He has 6 career goals.

Fans of other teams ask/tell me why isn't this team farther along? Well, comeau sucking out of nowhere,okposo and bailey being disappointments and PA walking have a lot to do with that. Not every roster player is a star or top 6 forward, but the guys on this roster that aren't legitimate top 6 forwards wouldn't be on many teams in the NHL right now except for Matt Martin.
- Isles316

i hear what youre saying, i personally never cared for comeau/pap...but i think the difference between those 3 and now is that back then ALL the team had were those three; now there are LOTS of options.

it would have been REALLY helpful if 1 of them turned out to be as we all hoped they would but i think that shows exactly how depleted the islanders prospect pool was at the time given that fans only had hope that one of these 3 would perform.

I never liked Comeau. Much like Okposo, his goals always seemded to come at garbage time. I spent plenty of time debating here and on a couple of other boards whether he should get top 6 icetime. That said, I had no problem with him as a 3rd liner. I don't think he would have been satisfied with that role at the time. but now?
- keaner17

I know every move or non move will affect the future, but say all things considered okposo was scoring 60 points a season, bailey scoring 50 and comeau 50. You keep parenteau and his 60-70 and your roster looks like this all things being equal...

Moulson-JT-PA
grabner-bailey-okposo
Boyes-Neilson-comeau
McDonald-cizikas-Martin

Granted not every move will have had been the same and probably being a little better you wouldnt pluck aucoin off waivers so this is an estimate.

But say something similar to this is going and bailey is your true #2 center like he was drafted to be, Neilson could then excel at #3 spot. You also then have strome, niño to either develop slower/or more guys for defense which would still lack.

Having top picks not pan out and letting legitimate top 3 forwards walk for nothing slows down and holds back your rebuilding efforts for years. Hence, this is my opinion on why the isles are no better than they were 2 years ago and you have a coach that can't teach them how to play defense.

Being -16 even strength in 12 games is all you need to know why a team top 7 in both pp and PK can't win a (frank)ing game at home.

To me, the biggest factor is this. If you can't attract established talent, you're doomed to wait for enough of your talent to mature into their projected roles. For a dman this typically takes at least 4-5 years. Forwards 2-4 years. We had NO dmen worth mentioning in our system and it's killed us. We have the prospects in the system now that MAY develop into those roles but it wasn't going to happen within the 5 year frame of the reboot. It's simply too difficult to expect a fast or even typical turn-around for a franchise that doesn't bring in established talent to mix with their homegrown talent..
- keaner17

I agree with that as well. I just think missing the boat or not being able to properly develop your own talent is worse. But you're right. No one wants to come here that's worth a damn and when that does happen, you can turn around your fortunes quickly. But since the isles never have been able to do that, they have to rely on drafting and developing well, and they haven't done that in the last 6 years. JT could have me developing him and would turn out fine. That's the exception

I know every move or non move will affect the future, but say all things considered okposo was scoring 60 points a season, bailey scoring 50 and comeau 50. You keep parenteau and his 60-70 and your roster looks like this all things being equal...

Moulson-JT-PA
grabner-bailey-okposo
Boyes-Neilson-comeau
McDonald-cizikas-Martin

Granted not every move will have had been the same and probably being a little better you wouldnt pluck aucoin off waivers so this is an estimate.

But say something similar to this is going and bailey is your true #2 center like he was drafted to be, Neilson could then excel at #3 spot. You also then have strome, niño to either develop slower/or more guys for defense which would still lack.

Having top picks not pan out and letting legitimate top 3 forwards walk for nothing slows down and holds back your rebuilding efforts for years. Hence, this is my opinion on why the isles are no better than they were 2 years ago and you have a coach that can't teach them how to play defense.

Being -16 even strength in 12 games is all you need to know why a team top 7 in both pp and PK can't win a (frank)ing game at home.
- Isles316

I think based on what I see right now, Okposo is the only 'top pick' I'd say has apparently not panned out. I realize Bailey has disappointed thus far but I'm still willing to give him through the rest of this year to prove himself since he does have the natural skills to excell. Okposo concerns me because we see mental and physical shortcomings...even as a project he appears lost at this point. Anyone else after them hasn't had enough time to develop yet.
It's amazing when you look at our farm system in 2006 just how bad off we were in the prospect pool. As many decent players as Milbury drafted, he managed to raid the cupboard bare.

I think based on what I see right now, Okposo is the only 'top pick' I'd say has apparently not panned out. I realize Bailey has disappointed thus far but I'm still willing to give him through the rest of this year to prove himself since he does have the natural skills to excell. Okposo concerns me because we see mental and physical shortcomings...even as a project he appears lost at this point. Anyone else after them hasn't had enough time to develop yet.
It's amazing when you look at our farm system in 2006 just how bad off we were in the prospect pool. As many decent players as Milbury drafted, he managed to raid the cupboard bare.
- keaner17

That's true too. My buddy says to me the other day "why don't you have a guy like wingels on the sharks"

I looked him up, he is 25 yrs old. We had no one in system when snow took over, all draft picks are 23,24 or younger

Im fond of them too. One of the many reasons I do not like the team we have
- Cptmjl

THE reason I do not like the team we have...

you are so unenjoyable to be around...even in cyber world.
- LetsGoIsles

I am? You are the one who has a problem with anything anyone says. You knew Damn well what he was saying and you picked it apart. If you didn't understand his point you aren't very intelligent and if you did you were being obnoxious which is par for the course with you but you don't get it. People like you never get it.

I still think this team has better personnel than it has at any time since the last time it made the dance, and has the POTENTIAL to contend for a playoff spot. It is still a couple of nasty motherf**kers on the back end away from any sort of meaningful contention, but it DOES have some solid offensive talent, especially on the PP. That said....the system it plays is cr*p, and until that changes, it will continue to suck. Firing Capuano and hiring Weight WON'T FIX THAT. They need someone with a SERIOUS, "defense first" pedigree. Until that happens, they will lose, often.

relative to the poop that captaindouche says, this is tame!!! notice the bold, he at least acknowledged the prospects the islanders have are PROJECTED to be good.

i happen to agree with it...i would just leave garth and cappy out of it...I feel, it all comes from the top.
- LetsGoIsles

Listen letsgosnow I have no problem acknowledging our prospects the difference btn you and I have half a brain in my head. You over value every prospect in fact you over value anything snow does bcs you have a huge boner for the guy which you already admitted too. You think our teams current state is all Wang's fault than you should be euthanized bcs you shouldn't be using up the rest of the populations oxygen. Cappy and snow are not at fault? You are nuttier than a squirrel turd.

I am? You are the one who has a problem with anything anyone says. You knew Damn well what he was saying and you picked it apart. If you didn't understand his point you aren't very intelligent and if you did you were being obnoxious which is par for the course with you but you don't get it. People like you never get it.
- Cptmjl

Why do you even bother with him anymore?