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Kaymondel
New Jersey Devils
Location: VA
Joined: 06.11.2012

Feb 13 @ 9:18 PM ET
He can't be sent down, he's too young for the AHL. A weird loophole but he has to be on the NHL squad
- TheJerseyDevil1

I thought since it's the Quebec league he could go back to them or the AHL.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Feb 13 @ 9:23 PM ET
Actually, can Matteau go to the AHL? JT Miller is in the AHL as an underage player because he did not play in the CHL before the draft. Bergfors was similar. I know this is the case for all European players, but I don't know how it works with North Americans.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Feb 13 @ 9:27 PM ET
Actually, can Matteau go to the AHL? JT Miller is in the AHL as an underage player because he did not play in the CHL before the draft. Bergfors was similar. I know this is the case for all European players, but I don't know how it works with North Americans.
- rmdevil313

It's only if you were playing in juniors. Like some players will stop playing in college to play in the AHL though not many.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Feb 13 @ 9:30 PM ET
It's only if you were playing in juniors. Like some players will stop playing in college to play in the AHL though not many.
- Pomegrant


Didn't Miller play CHL though?
Kaymondel
New Jersey Devils
Location: VA
Joined: 06.11.2012

Feb 13 @ 9:32 PM ET
Didn't Miller play CHL though?
- rmdevil313

Isn't it different between leagues; like OHL, CHL, college, etc.? Like some can only go back to juniors and some can do juniors or AHL.
Unholy_Forward
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.07.2012

Feb 13 @ 9:38 PM ET
This trade makes sense on a few levels. Dainius Zubrus will have wrist surgery tomorrow so the Devils add a healthy body in Ponikarovsky to fill the void. The price wasn't steep, and he's proven he can play in Pete DeBoer's system.




If Poni was so good why didn't Lou resign him and save two picks?
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Feb 13 @ 9:39 PM ET
If Poni was so good why didn't Lou resign him and not fork out a two picks?
- Unholy_Forward

We spent a good amount of time trying to sign that guy Parise. Dunno if you know about him.
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Feb 13 @ 9:40 PM ET
Actually, can Matteau go to the AHL? JT Miller is in the AHL as an underage player because he did not play in the CHL before the draft. Bergfors was similar. I know this is the case for all European players, but I don't know how it works with North Americans.
- rmdevil313


No, if he had started the season in the AhL like Girgensons, he could've since he was drafted out of the USHL, but since he played in the Q, he can't play until after his CHL season is over, Boucher did this last year.

It just prevents NHL teams from stealing CHL players and playing them in the AHL.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Feb 13 @ 9:41 PM ET
Isn't it different between leagues; like OHL, CHL, college, etc.? Like some can only go back to juniors and some can do juniors or AHL.
- Kaymondel


The CHL (which includes QMJHL, OHL, WHL) is the only league that restricts its players from playing in the AHL. I don't know how those restrictions apply to Matteau however.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Feb 13 @ 9:41 PM ET
If Poni was so good why didn't Lou resign him and save two picks?
- Unholy_Forward

Holy crap why didn't we think of this...
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Feb 13 @ 9:43 PM ET
The CHL (which includes QMJHL, OHL, WHL) is the only league that restricts its players from playing in the AHL. I don't know how those restrictions apply to Matteau however.
- rmdevil313


See my post.
Unholy_Forward
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.07.2012

Feb 13 @ 9:43 PM ET
We spent a good amount of time trying to sign that guy Parise. Dunno if you know about him.
- Pomegrant



Worst excuse ever.
Wouldn't it be funny if that 4th rounder turned into the next Parise?
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Feb 13 @ 9:44 PM ET
Worst excuse ever.
Wouldn't it be funny if that 4th rounder turned into the next Parise?

- Unholy_Forward

Well, it's not like we traded two first round picks for him so I don't think that'll be very likely.
Unholy_Forward
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.07.2012

Feb 13 @ 9:45 PM ET
Holy crap why didn't we think of this...
- shvingter88



Because Parise needed to be resigned and Lou couldn't take ten minutes out of his day to call Poni's agent because Lou was playing Zach's skin flute.
Unholy_Forward
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 06.07.2012

Feb 13 @ 9:46 PM ET
Well, it's not like we traded two first round picks for him so I don't think that'll be very likely.
- Pomegrant



Poni >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kessel
Rseen
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 08.30.2012

Feb 13 @ 9:50 PM ET
Worst excuse ever.
Wouldn't it be funny if that 4th rounder turned into the next Parise?

- Unholy_Forward

It wouldn't matter to the Devils. Drafting in the later rounds is not like the first 5 picks where it is more obvious who goes where. In the 4th round if they get the next Parise it is because they have done some good scouting. If the Devils were in that position, would they have picked the same player? No.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Feb 13 @ 9:50 PM ET
Because Parise needed to be resigned and Lou couldn't take ten minutes out of his day to call Poni's agent because Lou was playing Zach's skin flute.
- Unholy_Forward


Because if we signed Parise, we didn't need Poni...
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Feb 13 @ 9:50 PM ET
Because Parise needed to be resigned and Lou couldn't take ten minutes out of his day to call Poni's agent because Lou was playing Zach's skin flute.
- Unholy_Forward

What's your deal dude?

We have no idea what happened.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Feb 13 @ 9:51 PM ET
Worst excuse ever.
Wouldn't it be funny if that 4th rounder turned into the next Parise?

- Unholy_Forward

Parise was a 1st rd pick
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Feb 13 @ 9:53 PM ET
See my post.
- _Zippy_


Thanks, I thought the lockout might change for him, but wasn't sure.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Feb 13 @ 9:53 PM ET
It wouldn't matter to the Devils. Drafting in the later rounds is not like the first 5 picks where it is more obvious who goes where. In the 4th round if they get the next Parise it is because they have done some good scouting. If the Devils were in that position, would they have picked the same player? No.
- Rseen

I don't get what all the fuss is about.

Is he really that pathetic that he has to troll this trade?
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Feb 13 @ 9:56 PM ET
I don't get what all the fuss is about.

Is he really that pathetic that he has to troll this trade?

- shvingter88


That fourth could have been used along with Tallinder to net a 6th rounder. Much safer trade.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Feb 13 @ 9:57 PM ET
I don't get what all the fuss is about.

Is he really that pathetic that he has to troll this trade?

- shvingter88

The Leafs are in 5th instead of last so that means the ruffians come out of the wood work.
TheJerseyDevil1
New Jersey Devils
Location: Brick City, NJ
Joined: 10.05.2011

Feb 13 @ 10:16 PM ET
Because Parise needed to be resigned and Lou couldn't take ten minutes out of his day to call Poni's agent because Lou was playing Zach's skin flute.
- Unholy_Forward


That's not what happened, if Parise resigned, then they wouldn't have resigned Poni. So they didn't offer Poni a contract during the whole Parise saga. During that time he jumped on an offer from Winnipeg. Parise hit the lotto, and by that time Poni was already off the market.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Feb 13 @ 11:31 PM ET
Worst excuse ever.
Wouldn't it be funny if that 4th rounder turned into the next Parise?

- Unholy_Forward



And wouldn't it be even funnier if a division rival used two of Torontos picks to draft a potential franchise forward and potential top pairing defenseman? Oh, right.
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