wouldnt it be winnipeg?
- stayinthefnnet

Yea, not sure where NH got Dallas out of the whole Wheeler idea. Must have too much Dupuis on the brain.

The problem with Niskanen (whatever his perception might be), is that he is only signed for one more year and then a UFA.


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So... if both guys are in tonight, who sits? I would say Engelland, but Chris Neil is bound to do something stupid tonight.
- rival22

that is true. i was just more concerned with the fact that not too long ago he was considered a salary dump. i really think he has stepped up though and can be a valuable puck mover for someone. if the flyers werent in our division, i think it could be a perfect fit with them for someone such as read.

We cant expect these trades though

Yea, not sure where NH got Dallas out of the whole Wheeler idea. Must have too much Dupuis on the brain.
- Rawdog9755

i was looking on yahoo at players to pick up and came across wheeler and ryder and as I was talking about wheeler, i had ryders info up with him in the dallas uni...

i said my bad geez

i was looking on yahoo at players to pick up and came across wheeler and ryder and as I was talking about wheeler, i had ryders info up with him in the dallas uni...

i said my bad geez



- nh4442

haha it happens!

that is true. i was just more concerned with the fact that not too long ago he was considered a salary dump. i really think he has stepped up though and can be a valuable puck mover for someone. if the flyers werent in our division, i think it could be a perfect fit with them for someone such as read.
- stayinthefnnet

Absolutely, he could be a valuable player on many teams. I'm just thinking in terms of him as a main trade piece. We all want a player back who is somewhat of a longterm solution to a wing or whatever, but I wouldn't think that most GM's would give up someone who they control for a few more years, for an equal level player who may be gone in a year.

i was looking on yahoo at players to pick up and came across wheeler and ryder and as I was talking about wheeler, i had ryders info up with him in the dallas uni...

i said my bad geez



- nh4442

So you were rosterbating to potential FA acquisitions for your fantasy team?

So you were rosterbating to potential FA acquisitions for your fantasy team?
- Rawdog9755

maybe

Reverend Killtaker, you see a lot of WBS games, right? What have your impressions of Dominik Uher been?

Agreed on both. These wild trades do come from what shero has done in the past. No one is complaining of what he has given up since aquiring roberts, hossa/duper, guerin, kunitz, neal/nisk. I said this before but not sure if anyone even had seen it.
- SayWhat...NoWay

With regards to the Neal trade, Dallas was in a financial mess and needed to shed cash for owners. Gogo looked good on paper and had potential. I dont think Nisk was doing much for them at the time anyway. The Hossa trade, RS did give up a lot. The 1st rnd pick, and Esposito could have been a decent player. The other guy was a pretty decent role player. So looking back, I can see why Tangradi/TK/Morrow=Bobby Ryan, but at the time I dont think so. Guerin and Roberts were old and Rentals anyway.

Absolutely, he could be a valuable player on many teams. I'm just thinking in terms of him as a main trade piece. We all want a player back who is somewhat of a longterm solution to a wing or whatever, but I wouldn't think that most GM's would give up someone who they control for a few more years, for an equal level player who may be gone in a year.
- rival22

fair point. but the same could be said about a lot of guys. id be fine getting someone back with a year left. its better than a rental.

With regards to the Neal trade, Dallas was in a financial mess and needed to shed cash for owners. Gogo looked good on paper and had potential. I dont think Nisk was doing much for them at the time anyway. The Hossa trade, RS did give up a lot. The 1st rnd pick, and Esposito could have been a decent player. The other guy was a pretty decent role player. So looking back, I can see why Tangradi/TK/Morrow=Bobby Ryan, but at the time I dont think so. Guerin and Roberts were old and Rentals anyway.
- sammy87

I really don't think Ray gave up alot for Hossa. A late first round pick; a prospect in Esposito who was on the decline already and two role players, or spare parts. Dupes alone for that return was a win for Pittsburgh.

With regards to the Neal trade, Dallas was in a financial mess and needed to shed cash for owners. Gogo looked good on paper and had potential. I dont think Nisk was doing much for them at the time anyway. The Hossa trade, RS did give up a lot. The 1st rnd pick, and Esposito could have been a decent player. The other guy was a pretty decent role player. So looking back, I can see why Tangradi/TK/Morrow=Bobby Ryan, but at the time I dont think so. Guerin and Roberts were old and Rentals anyway.
- sammy87

Yeah, Dallas was mess at the time, plus they just had Loui Eriksson re-sign at a big increase, and it came down to basically either Benn or Neal staying long term, and they picked Benn.

I remember reading that Niskanen was a healthy scratch, and potential waiver material by then. He really fell out of favor there.

I really don't think Ray gave up alot for Hossa. A late first round pick; a prospect in Esposito who was on the decline already and two role players, or spare parts. Dupes alone for that return was a win for Pittsburgh.
- Oneonta Penguin

agreed, i just looked at the 2008 draft and we didnt have any picks in rd 1-3.. there is really noone outside the top 15 playing in nhl except for justin shultz, lindback and voynov(sp) and they were all 4th rd except lindback was 6th i believe.. our 4th pick was moon, 5 picks later was shultz.. the next yr is when RS started picking all D lol

I really don't think Ray gave up alot for Hossa. A late first round pick; a prospect in Esposito who was on the decline already and two role players, or spare parts. Dupes alone for that return was a win for Pittsburgh.
- Oneonta Penguin

I dont either, but Hossa was a rental and in his prime....If the Pens go after Iginla I dont think it should be for the same but even less. He's 35 now.

I really don't think Ray gave up alot for Hossa. A late first round pick; a prospect in Esposito who was on the decline already and two role players, or spare parts. Dupes alone for that return was a win for Pittsburgh.
- Oneonta Penguin

Don Waddell was recently on one of the local radio shows, and he said that Dupuis was a thrown in because Shero lost two roster forwards in the deal, and needed someone back. Waddell knew that Dupuis wasn't going to resign there as a UFA that summer, so just tossed him in to make it work for Shero.

Funny how things work out.

Speaking of Don Waddell, you gotta give Shero a lot of credit with the staff he hires. Some GM's would be scared of bringing in potential successors, but Shero has hired Waddell, Andre Savard, and Randy Sexton as scouts. All guys who have GM experience.

I dont either, but Hossa was a rental and in his prime....If the Pens go after Iginla I dont think it should be for the same but even less. He's 35 now.
- sammy87

thats why im not willing to throw a first or second at him... i think calgary would want young players already nhl ready not picks for a rebuild. giving them a forward like jeffrey and a D like burtuzzo and maybe a 3rd should be good.. yes I would love for them to take tk but its not realistic... plus jeffrey keeps riding the pine.. i love all the twitter posts suggestionhe slept with bylsmas wife and that why hes not play

seeing how kuni is a free agent any thoughts on if he would be dealt? if so what is he worth?

I dont either, but Hossa was a rental and in his prime....If the Pens go after Iginla I dont think it should be for the same but even less. He's 35 now.
- sammy87

thats why im not willing to throw a first or second at him... i think calgary would want young players already nhl ready not picks for a rebuild. giving them a forward like jeffrey and a D like burtuzzo and maybe a 3rd should be good.. yes I would love for them to take tk but its not realistic... plus jeffrey keeps riding the pine.. i love all the twitter posts suggestionhe slept with bylsmas wife and that why hes not play

seeing how kuni is a free agent any thoughts on if he would be dealt? if so what is he worth?
- nh4442

He is signed through next season.

Don Waddell was recently on one of the local radio shows, and he said that Dupuis was a thrown in because Shero lost two roster forwards in the deal, and needed someone back. Waddell knew that Dupuis wasn't going to resign there as a UFA that summer, so just tossed him in to make it work for Shero.

Funny how things work out.

Speaking of Don Waddell, you gotta give Shero a lot of credit with the staff he hires. Some GM's would be scared of bringing in potential successors, but Shero has hired Waddell, Andre Savard, and Randy Sexton as scouts. All guys who have GM experience.
- rival22

I guess we are going to be adding Howson as a scout pretty soon then.

He is signed through next season.
- rival22

well im just on the ball for everything today arent I...

ok seeing how kuni is signed for one more year does anyone think he could be dealt?

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wtf there goes our package for ryan, clowe, iggy, perry, wheeler, e.kane etc

Tangradi to Winnipeg for a 2013 7th round pick.

Don Waddell was recently on one of the local radio shows, and he said that Dupuis was a thrown in because Shero lost two roster forwards in the deal, and needed someone back. Waddell knew that Dupuis wasn't going to resign there as a UFA that summer, so just tossed him in to make it work for Shero.

Funny how things work out.

Speaking of Don Waddell, you gotta give Shero a lot of credit with the staff he hires. Some GM's would be scared of bringing in potential successors, but Shero has hired Waddell, Andre Savard, and Randy Sexton as scouts. All guys who have GM experience.
- rival22

Well, Shero was done very well with the throw ins - Niskanen and Dupes. Who does he fleece next?

I like Kunitz and what he's done, I enjoy his game when its a bit better, but I think he's gone depending on what Malkin and Letang demand. Orpik as well. I would like to see the Pens go after Corey Perry in the off season. No way ANA trades him when they're playing this well. I think they'll sign Getz and let Perry go.