I countered with ryan, phaneuf, lunfqvist for oshie, letang and fleury..

lets hope he excepts it before tonights game so I can get some points

I doubt Winnipeg is in a rush to get rid of him though.
- Gunner Staal

True. This might be a situation where an over payment is worth it, or at least more worth it than an over-the-hill soon to be FA, a soon to be FA who we cant afford to resign, or Hemsky(still a horrible idea NH).

He also fits our cap structure better than a big ticket name. That trade would have a lot of the same markers as the one that brought Neal here.
EDIT: Shero would also like that he is American, right handed shot and a big body. 6'5" 205lbs
- Rawdog9755

Problem is, he also fit's Winnipeg's cap structure well. Unless the deal really helps them out, I can't see them moving him.

Anybody else notice that there were 2 games last night(NYR-BOS and Tampa-MTL) where a team was down 2 goals late in the 3rd and tied the game with 2 goals while the goalie was pulled? Its rare to see that ever let alone 2x in one night.

Problem is, he also fit's Winnipeg's cap structure well. Unless the deal really helps them out, I can't see them moving him.
- rival22

It is semi interesting that they havent extended him yet. Not sure why they are waiting when they only have 10 players signed for next year at a cap hit of 33mil.

Anybody else notice that there were 2 games last night(NYR-BOS and Tampa-MTL) where a team was down 2 goals late in the 3rd and tied the game with 2 goals while the goalie was pulled? Its rare to see that ever let alone 2x in one night.
- Rawdog9755

Great games throughout the league last night.

In regards to Malkins start, I said that I am not concerned. I hate to play the lockout card, but I think that it is still effecting a lot of the league. In Malkins case he had played almost 40 games in the free range, wide open KHL. Sure he is already in game shape, but how much of his NHL game did he change to adapt to the KHL that he hasn't been able to reapply at this point.

This whole season is very likely going to be an anomaly for a lot of players and teams.

In regards to Malkins start, I said that I am not concerned. I hate to play the lockout card, but I think that it is still effecting a lot of the league. In Malkins case he had played almost 40 games in the free range, wide open KHL. Sure he is already in game shape, but how much of his NHL game did he change to adapt to the KHL that he hasn't been able to reapply at this point.

This whole season is very likely going to be an anomaly for a lot of players and teams.
- Ben37

I think the change in rink size definitely plays a factor but that should be a non issue at this point. I think the fact that his LW has 0 goals on the year is the bigger problem. I think he is making his initial read to Neal and if he isnt available he is trying to do too much.

O'Reilly would cost too much, I wouldnt give up any of our prospect Dmen for him. Cooke could fill out that line for the time being. Maybe 3rd line scoring is what we should be looking for in the trade market.

14-87-9
18-71-24
48-16-46
10-27-25/17/15This is the glaring hole in our line up those 3 guys really dont fit in on this team. Jeffery and Boychuk are AHLers, and Tangradi may be the biggest waste of size and hands in the NHL.

Also it has to be said Vitale deserves more time. He has more heart, speed, and talent than Glass. Has anyone else wondered where this upgrade to Asham is, in Glass?Because he is clearly not an upgrade he is pretty hard to notice unless you are looking for him. Boychuk and Tangradi are garbage. The bad thing is for Jeffery is that he is not a 4th liner and never will be. 3rd or 4th line grit and scoring is what we need we will see a perfect example in Neil tonight of what this team is lacking.

Great games throughout the league last night.
- Gunner Staal

Therrien was not happy. Thepensblog has a couple GIFs up from the game that are worth checking out.

It is semi interesting that they havent extended him yet. Not sure why they are waiting when they only have 10 players signed for next year at a cap hit of 33mil.
- Rawdog9755

I wouldn't read a lot into that though... They haven't extended Bryan Little or Zach Bogosian yet either.

I think the change in rink size definitely plays a factor but that should be a non issue at this point. I think the fact that his LW has 0 goals on the year is the bigger problem. I think he is making his initial read to Neal and if he isnt available he is trying to do too much.
- Gunner Staal

Could be. I wouldn't be opposed to putting Kunitz back with Malkin. And maybe slipping Boychuck in with Crosby and seeing how that works. The Crosby like relies less on the cycle and are more effective off the rush. Perhaps Boychucks speed with Crosby and Dupuis can create offense.

In regards to Malkins start, I said that I am not concerned. I hate to play the lockout card, but I think that it is still effecting a lot of the league. In Malkins case he had played almost 40 games in the free range, wide open KHL. Sure he is already in game shape, but how much of his NHL game did he change to adapt to the KHL that he hasn't been able to reapply at this point.

This whole season is very likely going to be an anomaly for a lot of players and teams.
- Ben37

Malkin's effort at times and his lack of discipline are very noticeable. It's driving me batty. That is the major disappointment. Both Geno and Neal get too frustrated and take stupid penalties too boot.

I think the change in rink size definitely plays a factor but that should be a non issue at this point. I think the fact that his LW has 0 goals on the year is the bigger problem. I think he is making his initial read to Neal and if he isnt available he is trying to do too much.
- Gunner Staal

The story of Geno's struggles throughout his career. He's like the anti-typical Russian, his struggles are based on trying too hard.

I think it has gotten to the point where they need to put Kunitz back on that line, even if it's for a short term, just to get them settled down and playing well again.

Not sure who you put on Sid's line with Dupuis, but I have faith in Sid to play more consistently with a rotating left winger than Geno.

The story of Geno's struggles throughout his career. He's like the anti-typical Russian, his struggles are based on trying too hard.

I think it has gotten to the point where they need to put Kunitz back on that line, even if it's for a short term, just to get them settled down and playing well again.

Not sure who you put on Sid's line with Dupuis, but I have faith in Sid to play more consistently with a rotating left winger than Geno.
- rival22

I'll never doubt Sid's abilities but leaving him with Dupuis and Boychuk/Tangradi/Jeffrey/Kennedy is asking quite a lot out of him.

I'll never doubt Sid's abilities but leaving him with Dupuis and Boychuk/Tangradi/Jeffrey/Kennedy is asking quite a lot out of him.
- Gunner Staal

exactly

#wingerforsid

I don't get all the boychuk hate.

I'll never doubt Sid's abilities but leaving him with Dupuis and Boychuk/Tangradi/Jeffrey/Kennedy is asking quite a lot out of him.
- Gunner Staal

Yeah... point taken...

I'll settle for a few shifts of Neal - Malkin - Kunitz maybe after PK's that Sid finishes up or whatever.

I'll never doubt Sid's abilities but leaving him with Dupuis and Boychuk/Tangradi/Jeffrey/Kennedy is asking quite a lot out of him.
- Gunner Staal

If stats are important to players....and we know they are, it isn't fair to your franchise player to give him "pot luck" to play with.

I like the Wheeler idea. Right handed shot too!

I don't get all the boychuk hate.
- IronCity

not hate just concern if he can perform... he has some good oppurtunities but isnt finishing... plus putting kuni there might gget that line going again

I don't get all the boychuk hate.
- IronCity

He has speed and shows the ability to make smart passes. He wont win you any physical battles anywhere on the ice and has 1 goal in his last 38 NHL games. He was a nice option to try at no cost, but he is not the answer to the Penguins top 6 question.

He has speed and shows the ability to make smart passes. He wont win you any physical battles anywhere on the ice and has 1 goal in his last 38 NHL games. He was a nice option to try at no cost, but he is not the answer to the Penguins top 6 question.
- Gunner Staal

Thought his puck retrieval skills were pretty nice. I usually notice him in a good way. I wouldn't go as far as calling him "garbage".

Thought his puck retrieval skills were pretty nice. I usually notice him in a good way. I wouldn't go as far as calling him "garbage".
- IronCity

no one is saying he is garbage...