Sbisa covered the puck and actually moved it back in the other direction, well before it crossed the line. the puck went over the line concurrent with or after the goal coming up off the ice. Nothing's changed since last night. Hawks got lucky.
- John Jaeckel

The whole thing with the goal coming off is kinda crappy, the rule goes as long as the little rubber stoppers that hold the net in are still in their holes then the goal is still considered in its starting postion. Cerca pat foley after the game

Saad seems to be this year's Shaw. Last year Shaw came in with a youthful abandon and crashed the net, did a lot of the things discussed here. This year, Saad is crashing the net hard and motoring around the ice and Shaw has been placed at #3C (of which he is learning on the fly)

There is a nice set of skills to be very excited about with this kid.

To say he will "replace" Marian Hossa within the next two years (or maybe ever) or to compare him to Bobby Orr shows a true lack of hockey knowledge, period.
- John Jaeckel

Haven't seen anyone in here say anything like that.... it's the nay sayers that continue to perpetuate this myth.

Scored a goal, drew a penalty... good game by the kid. Period.

Haven't seen anyone in here say anything like that.... it's the nay sayers that continue to perpetuate this myth.

Scored a goal, drew a penalty... good game by the kid. Period.
- nathanjf

Has been said elsewhere. Although I would like to think otherwise, the world is not limited to this thread.

And why don't you just lighten up a little bit, too?

Pick # 45 Tristan Jarry is an Oil King not a Steelie. I'm hoping the Hawks pick this kid...
- Beaver-Warrior

Hey, thanks for catching this!

It has been there incorrect for almost 19 months now, I never noticed.


A long time ago I had him ranked where Mason Geertsen was either before or after him in a spread sheet, and I as i was transfering the info to a cell for the site, I read the wrong line, and never even thought about it.

Can you please proff the enitr thing now? LOL.

I think a team with a good scouting team can get a good player with ANY first round pick this year.

I am hoping the hawks can pick up a replacemnet two or three while there are at trimming Rockford in April....

Has been said elsewhere. Although I would like to think otherwise, the world is not limited to this thread.

And why don't you just lighten up a little bit, too?
- John Jaeckel

Don't think I said anything that warrants being asked to lighten up, but ok!

hands down. love Sam Rosen, most energetic hockey fan of an announcer there is in the league. I live in NY and watch every ranger game just because he is a delight. (despite the fact that Micheletti does his best to neutralize it with his irrational homerism). Sam Rosen would announce and give praise to a gaborik goal just as much as he would give to a Kane goal. Calls it down the line
- FourFeathers773

He's great on the Bears pre-season games too.

Thought it was great game against a good good team
Fantastic pace and a game that could have gone either way.One point was fair
Perry is a brute and he was the best player on the ice

PP is not great

Two reasons
1.Poor passing at the Ducks line going into the zone and getting it to the point
2. Weaknet presence.....try Seabrook or Keith in front of the net.....sounds crazy but it can't be any worse
3.Get rid of Sharp at the point because when we lose the puck he is useless as a defender and short handed goals are always a possibility

Bright spots

1.Crawford was amazing less the SO
2.Krueger had a great game in the dot and on the PK
3.Saad gets better every game

seriously...Eddie O was always a corporate @ss kisser. But I'm disappointed in Foley. He's not the same guy I grew up with, and that's sad.

It's coming to a point I may need to watch games in silence.
- SteveRain

They're o.k. and intermittently annoying as well. What are you gonna do ?

They're o.k. and intermittently annoying as well. What are you gonna do ?
- philco28

I have a bigger problem with this.

When they start playing off each other's super lame jokes and mock laughing in stereo.... *shudder*

"tree tree in the terd" = kill me.

I have a bigger problem with this.

When they start playing off each other's super lame jokes and mock laughing in stereo.... *shudder*

"tree tree in the terd" = kill me.
- nathanjf

Edzo's just doing his job and he's admirably trying to use his platform to teach...but when he goes into one of those..."For all you hockey players out there" speeches..even though he's usually making a good point....can't help but stroll off for a pish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AikL5aEkkwU

I may be a couple pages late, but here's a video of Saad's goal. In the very last replay (starting @ 1:25), it shows the puck crossing the line (about 1:30) while the goal is coming off the moorings, but it isn't completely detached. Looks like Sbisa had stopped it with his leg, but Ryan and Hossa got tangled up and pushed him into the net.

First of all, the term ‘Good Players’ could mean anything, and nothing. I know for a fact that a player on a certain NHL team is actively being offered around the league. I don’t think he is what the Hawks need but I know he has been advised that this team is trying to move him. I also know from 2 well connected people I know that there are on-going talks all the time about player availability. It is possible no deals will take place now but not with the certainty Wiz is trying to convey.
- paulr

Facts why it is more likely that there will not be any big moves.

1. Short season, lots of teams in striking distance to playoffs.

2. Teams that may fall out from injury, will not blow up teams because of short season. Nor will they mortgage future on trying to add overpriced short term replacement.

3. The big names that will be offered around are likely buyout candidates or UFA's come summer time. Does not hurt to see what interest may be out there.

4. Cap shrinks and teams will not add headaches/problems from a financial point of view. For example, Hawks or someone else adding Luongo for whoever (gift) only to either hang that albatross around your neck for the next 5 years, or buy him out in the summer.

5. The only way big moves happen, in my opinion is if you get a situation of two high end guys who need a change of scenery. Nobody will give one away.

6. Most importantly, many teams are still internally in evaluation mode (realistically giving new coaches and schemes a chance to be established) and due to no pre season/camp are a little more patient.



6.

Facts why it is more likely that there will not be any big moves.

1. Short season, lots of teams in striking distance to playoffs.

2. Teams that may fall out from injury, will not blow up teams because of short season. Nor will they mortgage future on trying to add overpriced short term replacement.

3. The big names that will be offered around are likely buyout candidates or UFA's come summer time. Does not hurt to see what interest may be out there.

4. Cap shrinks and teams will not add headaches/problems from a financial point of view. For example, Hawks or someone else adding Luongo for whoever (gift) only to either hang that albatross around your neck for the next 5 years, or buy him out in the summer.

5. The only way big moves happen, in my opinion is if you get a situation of two high end guys who need a change of scenery. Nobody will give one away.

6. Most importantly, many teams are still internally in evaluation mode (realistically giving new coaches and schemes a chance to be established) and due to no pre season/camp are a little more patient.



6.
- TrueGrit

You're right! It isn't likely there will be any moves so soon. But that was never my point. Anyway this is pointless so I'll drop it.

Hey, thanks for catching this!

It has been there incorrect for almost 19 months now, I never noticed.


A long time ago I had him ranked where Mason Geertsen was either before or after him in a spread sheet, and I as i was transfering the info to a cell for the site, I read the wrong line, and never even thought about it.

Can you please proff the enitr thing now? LOL.

I think a team with a good scouting team can get a good player with ANY first round pick this year.

I am hoping the hawks can pick up a replacemnet two or three while there are at trimming Rockford in April....
- wiz1901

ahhhhhhhhh, the joys of Excel and cell YY2034..

Today's article including comments on goal cams and the UC ice...

Crawford strong but Ducks a little better in SO loss - Chicago News and Weather | FOX 32 News http://bit.ly/Va2kFA
- Al

A megapixel camera well (x2) to stick back there can be anywhere from $300-1200 (x2) depending on where they buy it from and what the exact requirements are. Maybe a bit more. Custom housing and getting the wireless sorted out so it is uninterrupted are other issues I suppose but shouldn't be excessively difficult.

Though video @30 FPS x 1920x1280 over a wireless signal in a big metal building with +/-20,000 people with electronic devices could get irritating. Maybe a line of sight relay could work if something was mounted behind the goal and hardwired.

Integrating it with whatever broadcast system is there already and like you said keeping it working are probably the two biggest cost issues for scenarios that creep up once every how often.

Wouldnt worry about last night. You cannot win them all. This team is playing lights out. Even when they dont play well, they still somehow get points out of it. Coming off a very solid road trip and a shutout against the Preds, I will cut them some slack. We have beat nearly all the top teams we played. The Ducks are prolly the #2 team in the West behind the Hawks. In a 7 game series, dont think the Ducks can stay with us. A slump/losing streak will happen. Its simply a part of sports. No worries people. Good thing is CC is still on top of his game and Saad is starting to turn the corner. I would still like to see what it would take to pry O'Reilly away from the Avs. What a line up we would have down the middle.. omfg. Come on Stan.

Kudos to Bickell for crushing Getzlaf and completely changing the momentum of the game. Reminded me of the Buff hit on Pronger

4) You need to read my blog more, or maybe more than just the parts about your favorite rookie (just jabbin' ya there) cuz I think takeaways are hugely important. And full marks to the Ducks. Kinda underscores my point that maybe the Hawks got a little lucky last night. And thanks because I had no idea it was that lop-sided.

- John Jaeckel

I'd be interested to see what the 'giveaways' were. Eye test looked like the Hawks were controlling play more than the Ducks were, especially in the 1st and start of the 3rd frame.

You're right! It isn't likely there will be any moves so soon. But that was never my point. Anyway this is pointless so I'll drop it.
- paulr

I, and most are not trying to be trade protagonists, we are rather just trying to be more measured given the circumstances.

Matt Hendricks is my guy though. Think he could be had and Washington has been a good trade partner in the past. This again down the road potentially.

What I rail against is this talk that SB or others know nothing and are not aware of what they need to do for the team.

I am also against this everything 2010 mentality. And don't buy into the idea that this team is 5 standard deviations away from it. Especially when 8 of the core top guys are still on this team. Anyways, will dwell on this later.

Thought it was great game against a good good team
Fantastic pace and a game that could have gone either way.One point was fair
Perry is a brute and he was the best player on the ice

PP is not great

Two reasons
1.Poor passing at the Ducks line going into the zone and getting it to the point
2. Weaknet presence.....try Seabrook or Keith in front of the net.....sounds crazy but it can't be any worse
3.Get rid of Sharp at the point because when we lose the puck he is useless as a defender and short handed goals are always a possibility
Bright spots

1.Crawford was amazing less the SO
2.Krueger had a great game in the dot and on the PK
3.Saad gets better every game
- PEIHawkFan

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.

Gents, would like to return for another dose of Mike Keenan on the PP.

Does anyone happen to have Q's and Tampon's email addy??? I would like to send both of them some tips. Obviously, they need to go back to school and re-learn how to run a PP. Oh, also one of the important things is to NOT actually practice the PP on ice but rather SPECIFIC ASPECTS of it, like touch passes, one-timers, etc.

Keenan breaks it down into 10 things that the players should be trying to do at all times..

1) Provide support to the puck handler: “A 1-on-1 situation should be non-existent. You should always be trying to set up a 2-on-1.”

2) Work the seams: “These are the areas that divide the box. These are the areas you are trying to contest and, ultimately, break down, resulting in a 2-on-1. The key is to isolate the defenders and force them to move out of position.”

3) Prepare the “PSA” (Prime Scoring Area): “Work someone into the slot, but make sure you don’t get tied up, as this blocks the best area. However,” Keenan hints with a smile, “sometimes you want (your sniper) to get tied up with an opponent, which opens up another point in the box.” Keenan suggests making this a called play.

4) Switch positions: In case teams are shadowing you players or playing some form of man-to-man defense, Keenan suggests moving players around, forcing the defenders into foreign positions on the ice. While your players are also out of position, they have the inherent advantage of being on the power play.

5) Avoid long passes: “Always, always, always have the support man close by. Long passes are easily intercepted and a good player will anticipate and step up, forcing you to reset (or worse).”

6) Emphasize the face off: Quite simply, Keenan notes, this is the best way to keep from losing 20 seconds of your power play each time there is a stoppage of play.

7) Get the puck in deep: Again, Keenan notes, this results in your faster, more talented puck controllers matching against the other team’s defensemen. It offers the best chance to score and minimizes the risk of a shorthanded goal.

8) Create movement: “This is the only way to disorganize the box,” Keenan says. “Make them move.” In a Darwinian approach, Keenan instructs his players to seek out the weak, wounded or tired and to try to make that opponent make the mistake.

9) Take charge: Again, the power play is no time to get lazy. Keep the puck and players moving.

10) Finally, influence the goaltender: “Make him move from side to side as much as you can,” Keenan says. “Don’t let him get comfortable so that he knows he has all of his angles covered. Force him to constantly move side to side and in and out,” eventually losing his bearings and positioning.

Giving the staff the benefit of the doubt, I don't know how much they practice the SO. The sense I get is, not that much. Still maybe they know some things we don't. But these feel like guesses.
- John Jaeckel

There's just one thing I totally disagree with. Having Kruger taking a spot on the shootout before Saad. I might be wrong because I have no idea but I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't been part of a shootout in his professional hockey career.

I have a bigger problem with this.

When they start playing off each other's super lame jokes and mock laughing in stereo.... *shudder*

"tree tree in the terd" = kill me.
- nathanjf

This and Pat practicing his impersonation chops and channeling Harry Carey.

Otherwise I generally like the broadcast. When I'm in the car I like Weideman and Murray and I know this is blasphemy but kind of prefer them.

Maybe I'm overly sensitive living just outside Hockeytown (cough, bu!!$41t), but their announcers are awful. At times Mickey sees another team on the ice but Ken Daniels rarely does. And if you want to talk hype machine look no further. I will eat crow on this one and say Damien Brunner's been better than I would have expected.

On the bolded part I say that because every guy that comes up seems to be the next Howe, Yzerman or Federov. They may not invoke those names but the superlatives are endless. So just saying for anyone that thinks the Hawks are the only team guilty of pumping the prospects tires.

There's just one thing I totally disagree with. Having Kruger taking a spot on the shootout before Saad. I might be wrong because I have no idea but I wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't been part of a shootout in his professional hockey career.
- rwilliams88

You are wrong.

Saad was 1 for 2 in shootouts at Rockford. As was Kruger.