A megapixel camera well (x2) to stick back there can be anywhere from $300-1200 (x2) depending on where they buy it from and what the exact requirements are. Maybe a bit more. Custom housing and getting the wireless sorted out so it is uninterrupted are other issues I suppose but shouldn't be excessively difficult.

Though video @30 FPS x 1920x1280 over a wireless signal in a big metal building with +/-20,000 people with electronic devices could get irritating. Maybe a line of sight relay could work if something was mounted behind the goal and hardwired.

Integrating it with whatever broadcast system is there already and like you said keeping it working are probably the two biggest cost issues for scenarios that creep up once every how often.
- fattybeef

I wrote about this a couple years ago as well...because I know a person who works for the place that sells the specialty cameras for all major sports and the Olympics.

I won't repeat the exact costs involved because things do change.
But if all the necessary equipment was leased and with a person there every game the cost I think would be in the 40,000-$50,000 range for the regular season.

There would be some set up work involved but a lot is already done.

A big problem now is the overhead views, especially at the UC, but also other places are too high or at the wrong angle.

That has to do with building structure etc...All a little different and the UC roof is very high up.

The other main point is to make sense every team needs to do the same and that requires money from franchises who struggle.

To my surprise particular leagues don't pay for specialty cameras at all.



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I mentioned this during the game yesterday: Saad's tenacity is consistently drawing 1-2 penalties per game.

Per Behind the Net, he's actually drawing 2.3 penalties per game.

Now...if only our PP had legs.
- Holes02

I'm surprised Salad doesn't get more credit for this
If the hawks were converting better, maybe then I guess, but the kids earning his keep

I know one guy who knows how to run a power play who is on the Hawk payroll. But Q doesn't like having him around.
- John Jaeckel

Out of all the weaknesses......toughness up front, face offs,etc.....if not fixed this will be the reason why the Hawks do not win the cup.

Thought it was great game against a good good team
Fantastic pace and a game that could have gone either way.One point was fair
Perry is a brute and he was the best player on the ice

PP is not great

Two reasons
1.Poor passing at the Ducks line going into the zone and getting it to the point
2. Weaknet presence.....try Seabrook or Keith in front of the net.....sounds crazy

- PEIHawkFan

I like the idear of Seabrook or Kieth in front on the PP. They are used to the physical responsibilities of doing so on defense. They might outperform there for that reason.

Out of all the weaknesses......toughness up front, face offs,etc.....if not fixed this will be the reason why the Hawks do not win the cup.
- UnnamedSource

The greatest weakness is that the guys you pay the bulk of your salary to to produce, CAN'T produce on the PP. Figure that out. What would 3 PPG in 6 games vs Phoenix have meant last year?

5 more in the regular season maybe gets you home ice in playoffs last year. The obsession with the periphery players gives the core a pass and is akin to the political climate in this country. Don't blame the guys at the top...

Maybe I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue, but I think that the fast start allows Q to give different guys a shot. If the Hawks were fighting for that last playoff spot, then yeah, sending Leddy or Saad ahead of someone like Hossa might raise a few eyebrows. But if all we have to complain about is "who's 3rd in the shoot out?" or that they've gotten a couple huge breaks this season, I'll take it. You can "shoulda, coulda, woulda" all you want, but the record is what the record is.

The greatest weakness is that the guys you pay the bulk of your salary to to produce, CAN'T produce on the PP. Figure that out. What would 3 PPG in 6 games vs Phoenix have meant last year?

5 more in the regular season maybe gets you home ice in playoffs last year. The obsession with the periphery players gives the core a pass and is akin to the political climate in this country. Don't blame the guys at the top...
- TrueGrit

True Grit, great post. I always was a fan of Kane and Toews on the same PP. Kane throws the puck from the half wall dow to the goalline and Toews stuffs or goes cross crease which is a pretty high reward play. This gives Toews Multiple options. 1. Cross Crease play to whoever is there. 2. Stuff which at worst gives you a whistle to keep the play in the zone. 3. can find the third low man who pops out in the high slot. 4. Work give and go with Kaner.

It was simple and never was stopped in 2010 and in the 09 playoffs.

Saad scored while falling/leaping head first through the air.

Bobby Orr famously did that too.

Pretty sure that's all Steve was talking about. Some of you guys giving non-existant weight to a color commentator's post game thoughts is laughable.
- AceRatbang

+1. I agree. That is all he meant. The famous goal Orr scored against the Blues. Ending up in the air like Saad did. At least I hope that is all he meant. I doubt anyone would compare Saad to Orr...ever

The greatest weakness is that the guys you pay the bulk of your salary to to produce, CAN'T produce on the PP. Figure that out. What would 3 PPG in 6 games vs Phoenix have meant last year?

5 more in the regular season maybe gets you home ice in playoffs last year. The obsession with the periphery players gives the core a pass and is akin to the political climate in this country. Don't blame the guys at the top...
- TrueGrit

THIS as it relates to hockey.

Not getting into the political.

Maybe I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue, but I think that the fast start allows Q to give different guys a shot. If the Hawks were fighting for that last playoff spot, then yeah, sending Leddy or Saad ahead of someone like Hossa might raise a few eyebrows. But if all we have to complain about is "who's 3rd in the shoot out?" or that they've gotten a couple huge breaks this season, I'll take it. You can "shoulda, coulda, woulda" all you want, but the record is what the record is.
- Htppr

You're right

This and Pat practicing his impersonation chops and channeling Harry Carey.

Otherwise I generally like the broadcast. When I'm in the car I like Weideman and Murray and I know this is blasphemy but kind of prefer them.

Maybe I'm overly sensitive living just outside Hockeytown (cough, bu!!$41t), but their announcers are awful. At times Mickey sees another team on the ice but Ken Daniels rarely does. And if you want to talk hype machine look no further. I will eat crow on this one and say Damien Brunner's been better than I would have expected.

On the bolded part I say that because every guy that comes up seems to be the next Howe, Yzerman or Federov. They may not invoke those names but the superlatives are endless. So just saying for anyone that thinks the Hawks are the only team guilty of pumping the prospects tires.
- HawkintheD

Daniels, Mickey, and Murphy are all TERRIBLE about this. But I will also argue, the Wings organization now has a LOT riding on getting the fans to embrace their prospects, know what I mean?

+1. I agree. That is all he meant. The famous goal Orr scored against the Blues. Ending up in the air like Saad did. At least I hope that is all he meant. I doubt anyone would compare Saad to Orr...ever
- tomcat24

Start with all Hawk fans under the age of 40. I'll bet you could find some after last night.

Daniels, Mickey, and Murphy are all TERRIBLE about this. But I will also argue, the Wings organization now has a LOT riding on getting the fans to embrace their prospects, know what I mean?
- John Jaeckel

If I'm following; to bridge the gap and maintain fan interest between what were once loaded superior teams to now ones that are playoff teams but maybe just barely so?

MORE ON TYPECASTING, TIRE PUMPING AND KRUGER IN THE SO:

Funny, the guy said he would never have Kruger out there ahead of Saad.

Well, although he was never hyped quite like Saad was, the player Kruger was often compared to by Hawk-types (and I suspect once or twice) by the talking heads was a young . . . Henrik Zetterberg.

Was it a reach? Maybe, possibly, most likely.

But I suspect, in part because Kruger was never hyped like Saad was, and because he has been put into a defense-first role, he has pretty much been typecast as a defensive player ONLY at this point.

The truth is, he has shown evidence of having some hands and definitely some vision. And some believe Kruger has some untapped offensive upside. But he is not the kind of guy (like Saad) who is going to go out there and try to undress every opposing defenseman and shoot every time the puck hits his blade. He is a guy, a Swedish-style center, who is always going to be defense first—as really was Zetterberg as he came up.

But yet, there are probably a lot of fans who scoff at the notion that Kruger might be better, in some instances, in what appears to be a purely offensive, one on one situation.

Slow down. There's often more to the story.

A broader perspective is always a valuable thing.

If I'm following; to bridge the gap and maintain fan interest between what were once loaded superior teams to now ones that are playoff teams but maybe just barely so?
- HawkintheD

You got it

True Grit, great post. I always was a fan of Kane and Toews on the same PP. Kane throws the puck from the half wall dow to the goalline and Toews stuffs or goes cross crease which is a pretty high reward play. This gives Toews Multiple options. 1. Cross Crease play to whoever is there. 2. Stuff which at worst gives you a whistle to keep the play in the zone. 3. can find the third low man who pops out in the high slot. 4. Work give and go with Kaner.

It was simple and never was stopped in 2010 and in the 09 playoffs.
- nickmo2699

Give me a Corey Perry type player who goes into the paint like a bull in a China Shop all day, everyday and brings his slick hands with him. Find a guy like that and the Hawk PP results will improve. Since we don't have Perry, nothing wrong with trying Andrew Shaw in that role.

You guys remember Dan Kelly calling all the Hawks road games on tv?

Man, he was fantasic.

You got it
- John Jaeckel

Fair enough. I'm still very curmudgeonly for my age and am annoyed by most all things Winged Wheel.

To be fair I'm sure most Wings fans who live in Chicago would be similarly annoyed.

Give me a Corey Perry type player who goes into the paint like a bull in a China Shop all day, everyday and brings his slick hands with him. Find a guy like that and the Hawk PP results will improve. Since we don't have Perry, nothing wrong with trying Andrew Shaw in that role.
- RickJ

Perry's a STUD.

You guys remember Dan Kelly calling all the Hawks road games on tv?

Man, he was fantasic.
- AceRatbang

Who did the home games? Oh yeah......

Perry's a STUD.
- philco28

No argument here.

You guys remember Dan Kelly calling all the Hawks road games on tv?

Man, he was fantasic.
- AceRatbang

How about Jim West?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeASxQBCl_M

http://www.indianheadnati...cup-final-game-2-wgn-r118

I'm surprised Salad doesn't get more credit for this
If the hawks were converting better, maybe then I guess, but the kids earning his keep
- rwilliams88

You don't win friends with salad...

http://www.youtube.com/wa...ture=youtube_gdata_player

No argument here.
- John Jaeckel

Crow was in a tough spot on the s/o snipe by Perry. Does Perry defiantly try top glove again after being robbed in the first ? Or does he make a perfect shot stickside to win it. What a SNIPER.