Orr is a waste unless he can skate.... which he worked on this summer. Reminds me of how Thorton in Bos revamped his career a couple years ago. He's reliable on the ice and a top 3 fighter in the league look out milan
- Killbot460

Haha he's not quite on Lucic's level yet

Damn I love Lucic. He's one of my favourite players in the league. When I look at Boston and then think about the Oilers I get scared. THAT is how you build a team.

I think so too. I don't think the price to get him would be ridiculous either. The Oil are going to need to move a defensemen right away here anyway.

Let me just say, I'm very thankful the Oilers do not have to play the Leafs this season. We would be getting thrown around like it's nothing. I like the dynamic the leafs have going this year.
- SteveTambellini

Boyle's got two more years at 1.7. He's got the right mindset as well, very chippy guy. Pretty sure he's a decent faceoff guy as well, not sure of Edms need there, every guy helps though.

Agreed about the Leafs, it was a majority feeling in Leafland that the team needed to be 10x tougher. Right now they are showing it, and it seems to have made everyone's Richard bigger in the room.

Since they've shown they don't plan on using him...it makes sense to send him down and bring up someone who will do something...ANYTHING...functional to the team. Let's say PK...just for fun, since one of our PK guys will be watching from the stands tonight.
- OilCountryEast

Im on your side. I want players that can play and are accountable... basically another eager type and a tougher center than Horcoff.

I wouldnt call smyth pk... hes in the box more than he's on the pk

Haha he's not quite on Lucic's level yet

Damn I love Lucic. He's one of my favourite players in the league. When I look at Boston and then think about the Oilers I get scared. THAT is how you build a team.
- SteveTambellini

I just mean orr will be out against lucic, now that he's in better shape hes a better player and fighter, last time it didn't go too well for lucic.

Love that kid too, Same with Clowe

Haha he's not quite on Lucic's level yet

Damn I love Lucic. He's one of my favourite players in the league. When I look at Boston and then think about the Oilers I get scared. THAT is how you build a team.
- SteveTambellini

They've got a couple of heavy-weights, but more than that even they're smaller guys LOVE to throw their bodies around. Compare even Bergeron/Krejci to Gagner and Marchand to Eberle/Hemksy in terms of physicality.

Boyle's got two more years at 1.7. He's got the right mindset as well, very chippy guy. Pretty sure he's a decent faceoff guy as well, not sure of Edms need there, every guy helps though.

Agreed about the Leafs, it was a majority feeling in Leafland that the team need to be 10x tougher. Right now they are showing it, and it seems to have made everyone's Richard bigger in the room.
- Leafland

I foresee Horcoff being bought out after this season, Belanger is getting older and injured frequently, and Gagner and RNH are still not up to par on the draw, so it's definitely a need.

I agree, it is definitely more of a statement than anything. There is no way younger skilled guys like Hall, Eberle, and RNH can feel comfortable going out on the ice against a team that has Orr, McLaren, and Brown in the lineup with no protection. What do teams have to be scared of when they look at the Oilers right now? Nothing. All they say is a small, young team waiting to get pushed around. That's the way I see it anyway.

I would take Penner if he came with Stoll

You're right robynsteele264, I'm sure Smytty feels terrible. I won't forget that day either.
- JLO961

he had every opportunity to sign and left over a couple hundred thousand a year. F#%k him.

Boyle's got two more years at 1.7. He's got the right mindset as well, very chippy guy. Pretty sure he's a decent faceoff guy as well, not sure of Edms need there, every guy helps though.

Agreed about the Leafs, it was a majority feeling in Leafland that the team needed to be 10x tougher. Right now they are showing it, and it seems to have made everyone's Richard bigger in the room.
- Leafland

not only do they have two legit heavy weights, they showed they can play. Philly, Rangers, Bos have always had a tough team that can play... but the leafs look like the toughest team in the league.

They've got a couple of heavy-weights, but more than that even they're smaller guys LOVE to throw their bodies around. Compare even Bergeron/Krejci to Gagner and Marchand to Eberle/Hemksy in terms of physicality.
- Morris

That's exactly what I'm talking about. They have a big, big team, but everybody on that team loves to get involved. And their defence is just plain mean

As far as the Oiler's top six, if Gagner shifted to the wing and we were somehow able to find a big, two-way centre to round out our top 6, I'd be comfortable with it. But you have to compensate for that lack of size and grit elsewhere in your lineup which we haven't quite done yet.

That's exactly what I'm talking about. They have a big, big team, but everybody on that team loves to get involved. And their defence is just plain mean

As far as the Oiler's top six, if Gagner shifted to the wing and we were somehow able to find a big, two-way centre to round out our top 6, I'd be comfortable with it. But you have to compensate for that lack of size and grit elsewhere in your lineup which we haven't quite done yet.
- SteveTambellini

just even imagine a 4th line with functional toughness first

I would take Penner if he came with Stoll
- andymaury

It really makes my head hurt when I compare the Oilers current needs and the players they have given up in previous years.

Puck moving d-man with decent size and defensive play? Tom Gilbert

Big physical defensive defenseman? Matt Greene

3rd line centre who can win faceoffs, kill penalties, put up good offensive numbers, and play in the top 6 when needed? Jarret Stoll

Bottom 6 centre who plays with a lot of energy? Kyle Brodziak

It really makes my head hurt when I compare the Oilers current needs and the players they have given up in previous years.

Puck moving d-man with decent size and defensive play? Tom Gilbert

Big physical defensive defenseman? Matt Greene

3rd line centre who can win faceoffs, kill penalties, put up good offensive numbers, and play in the top 6 when needed? Jarret Stoll

Bottom 6 centre who plays with a lot of energy? Kyle Brodziak


- SteveTambellini

Gilbert?

Brodziak?

Dude....

It really makes my head hurt when I compare the Oilers current needs and the players they have given up in previous years.

Puck moving d-man with decent size and defensive play? Tom Gilbert

Big physical defensive defenseman? Matt Greene

3rd line centre who can win faceoffs, kill penalties, put up good offensive numbers, and play in the top 6 when needed? Jarret Stoll

Bottom 6 centre who plays with a lot of energy? Kyle Brodziak


- SteveTambellini

IMO Petry is better than gibby or at least more physical. but Stoll and Broz

Gilbert?

Brodziak?

Dude....
- robin_steele264

He had his bad moments but I would sure as hell take Gilbert over Potter/Whitney/N. Schultz. Brodziak would be the best player in the Oiler's bottom 6 right now.

not only do they have two legit heavy weights, they showed they can play. Philly, Rangers, Bos have always had a tough team that can play... but the leafs look like the toughest team in the league.
- Killbot460

Two legit heavyweights, some Russian ball of hate that can skate like the wind and is fearless. Plus an injection of two young kids playing for a job/career. It's hard to get your hopes up about this team, but they have been extremely fun to watch for the most part this young season.

Edmonton is right there as well. The kids will find their mojo and start to snowball some wins, hopefully tonight is the start.

IMO Petry is better than gibby or at least more physical. but Stoll and Broz
- Killbot460

Petry definitely is solid defensively and physically but the Oilers are in dire need of another puck mover. I would take Gilbert in the Oiler's lineup over Whitney/Potter/N. Schultz for sure.

Very disrespectful comment, this guy doesn't feel angry because he's a scratch, he feels guilty. I'm sure Smyth is hurting inside because he wants so badly to contribute and his legs just aren't there. Your comment really REALLY sucks.
- JLO961

So does Smyth.

You completely overestimate how much teams will offer up for a $6.5mil cap hit player who plays like a $4.5mil cap hit player and has a train wreck of a personal life that keeps causing issues between him and his teammates.
- Maxbone

go back to hanging out at KFC and see if they will hire you on because you clearly shouldnt be doing this

Ryan Jones can come back any time now.

Penner for Whitney is probably not going to happen but I wouldn't be surprised with anybody for Whitney right now. Whitney has value. We saw that because Kurtis Foster had value and by Pittsburg trying to get 37 year old gonchar back (they are also 2 dmen down right now since that attempt - source tsn). Defensmen with experience are worth something to most teams, shut down dmen have medium value and ones that have a historic offensive side have the most. Everyone is hurting for offensive d that can move the puck and this last summer they got paid out. They are worth more than forwards and Whitney has value to at least 10 teams off the top of my head.

So Penner coming back? He is doing pretty bad but he wasn't great here either. However we do need bodies. Do remember that when he was here we had more centers than wingers and when he played with gagner and cogliano he was taking the draws in the last season. So you can't dismiss him as a center and you can't dismiss gagner as a winger. You don't put the leading point getter on the third line for Penner. If Penner comes he would need to earn his spot on the top 6 or he would take Yaks spot.

Petry definitely is solid defensively and physically but the Oilers are in dire need of another puck mover. I would take Gilbert in the Oiler's lineup over Whitney/Potter/N. Schultz for sure.
- SteveTambellini

IMO they needed Schultz,

They banked on Whitney which was a misstake. Trade would have looked sweeter if it was Whitney for Schultz

Schultz is solid in his own end and doesn't make many errors... he is a totally different player than Gilbert

Ryan Jones can come back any time now.
- robin_steele264

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IMO they needed Schultz,

They banked on Whitney which was a misstake. Trade would have looked sweeter if it was Whitney for Schultz

Schultz is solid in his own end and doesn't make many errors... he is a totally different player than Gilbert
- Killbot460

Very true, but a much easier type of player to find IMO.

Matt Kassian has been placed on waivers by the Minnesota Wild.. interesting