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Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 12 @ 11:34 PM ET
AV should send Kassian out with the twins. If they wanna go after hank after every wistle then Kassian can slap a few of them around
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:34 PM ET
I think that Setoguchi, Cullen and Bouchard are somewhat overrated in terms of offense. Clutterbuck is a machine, but more from a defensive stand point. Heatley has been invisible for years now, while Granlund has bags of talent but is still raw. Its only really Koivu and Parise that I expect bigger numbers from, and even then I expect Parise to be 10-20 pts ahead based purely on talent.
- lumlums



Those first 3 guys are all secondary scorers for sure, I guess it's fair to say that they just lack the workhorse players that most top offensive teams have, but they should still at least be top 15 because they should be able to produce 3 lines that can score. It's still early, but we'll see how things play out. A little NW division competition would be nice(with the Canucks still winning of course. ).
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Feb 12 @ 11:34 PM ET
After Lou and Cory. Hansenhas easily been my favourite players thus far this year. He's even beyond solid.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Feb 12 @ 11:34 PM ET
Raymond is too hot to trade. Time to scratch him from any trade proposals.
- micah555

I disagree I really like Ray but he still isn't strong on his skates and that has always been a deal breaker for me.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 12 @ 11:34 PM ET
Wow.

Nothing for Falk there. (frank)ing BS
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:35 PM ET
AV should send Kassian out with the twins. If they wanna go after hank after every wistle then Kassian can slap a few of them around
- Bieksa#3



Agreed. (frank)ing Wild are gonna make this ugly with Konopka/Rupp if the Canucks score another goal.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 12 @ 11:35 PM ET
Raymond is too hot to trade. Time to scratch him from any trade proposals.
- micah555

I think the opposite. Trade him while he is hot.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:35 PM ET
Wow.

Nothing for Falk there. (frank)ing BS

- Fosco



Reputation call for Lapierre, his reputation with the refs is worse than Burrows.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:37 PM ET
I think the opposite. Trade him while he is hot.
- Bieksa#3



I agree, but it depends on how much value he really has and what you can get in return. If he keeps playing well with Schroeder, it's going to be hard to justify trading him though. I remember people wanted to trade him for Moen last year, who's been a 4th liner for MTL and even scratched at times.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:37 PM ET
(frank)
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 12 @ 11:38 PM ET
With one of the best lists of bluechip prospects in hockey you do have to wonder why the wild would put themselves in cap hell like they have
- Bieksa#3


I guess they lose $14m in cap this off season, but they will likely need ot sign backstrom at least to move on.

They may decide to exercise the buyout on Heatley: $7.5m cap hit for an average of 60 points the last couple of seasons.... And its not like he even plays a solid defensive game either.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 12 @ 11:38 PM ET
After Lou and Cory. Hansenhas easily been my favourite players thus far this year. He's even beyond solid.
- vancity787

If Hansen had any kind of hands he would score 25 goals and 60 points. His hands are as bad as Dale W. He's like a gritier version of Todd Marchant
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 12 @ 11:39 PM ET
(frank)
- Nucker101


Lol, just as I say that Cullen and Seto don't offer much offense...
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:40 PM ET
I guess they lose $14m in cap this off season, but they will likely need ot sign backstrom at least to move on.

They may decide to exercise the buyout on Heatley: $7.5m cap hit for an average of 60 points the last couple of seasons.... And its not like he even plays a solid defensive game either.

- lumlums



I doubt that their owner is willing to spend even more money to buyout Heatley, I could see him being traded if they take salary back and maybe add in a pick/prospect. Parise is a great heart and soul player so I don't mind overpaying for a guy like him, but Suter was not worth it IMO.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 12 @ 11:40 PM ET
Still want Raymond gone?
- thundachunk


I've never been one of his biggest detractors, but I'll admit I've included him in my fair share of proposals.

As long as he keeps playing like this, he can stay
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 12 @ 11:40 PM ET
I agree, but it depends on how much value he really has and what you can get in return. If he keeps playing well with Schroeder, it's going to be hard to justify trading him though. I remember people wanted to trade him for Moen last year, who's been a 4th liner for MTL and even scratched at times.
- Nucker101

For sure.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:41 PM ET
If Hansen had any kind of hands he would score 25 goals and 60 points. His hands are as bad as Dale W. He's like a gritier version of Todd Marchant
- Bieksa#3



So true, but he's still a very good 3rd liner that can score 10-15 a season and play a good all-around game.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Feb 12 @ 11:41 PM ET
So true, but he's still a very good 3rd liner that can score 10-15 a season and play a good all-around game.
- Nucker101



Bargain contract, too.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Feb 12 @ 11:41 PM ET
Lol, just as I say that Cullen and Seto don't offer much offense...
- lumlums


Well, it's not like they never score. They just don't score enough.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 12 @ 11:41 PM ET
I doubt that their owner is willing to spend even more money to buyout Heatley, I could see him being traded if they take salary back and maybe add in a pick/prospect. Parise is a great heart and soul player so I don't mind overpaying for a guy like him, but Suter was not worth it IMO.
- Nucker101


True, and his actual salary is low (5m I think)... maybe the isles will take him???
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Feb 12 @ 11:43 PM ET
So true, but he's still a very good 3rd liner that can score 10-15 a season and play a good all-around game.
- Nucker101

Agreed
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 12 @ 11:43 PM ET
Well, it's not like they never score. They just don't score enough.
- micah555


True story. Their defense is generally solid, but it's nice to be able to provide them a bit of a lead to defend; Defense is definitely easier when you're ahead.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Feb 12 @ 11:44 PM ET
Raymond is too hot to trade. Time to scratch him from any trade proposals.
- micah555


So...

Sedin Sedin burrows
Booth Kesler Kassian
Raymond Schroeder Hansen
Volpatti Lapierre Weise

Where have Weise and Volpatti been tonight?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:47 PM ET
Bargain contract, too.
- Fosco



Yup, there's a reason why he's never in anyone's trade proposals.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:48 PM ET
True, and his actual salary is low (5m I think)... maybe the isles will take him???
- lumlums



Does he have a NTC? If not then he's going to Phoenix or Long Island for sure.
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