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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 12 @ 2:23 PM ET
His last team in the LNAH was called "St. Georges Cool 103.5 FM".

EDIT: He's still playing for them. 19 games, 3.35 GAA and .902 SV%

- NickTheKid87


The got killed in the finals by Cincinnatti's WKRP 98.5
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 12 @ 2:23 PM ET
I hear he's the new started for the Syracuse Bulldogs in the Federal League. Jean-Marc Pelletier had been the starter, but apparently underwent "Major Surgery. Open heart."
- jmatchett


He's no Maxime Ouellet.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 12 @ 2:24 PM ET
The got killed in the finals by Cincinnatti's WKRP 98.5
- Jsaquella


Funny thing is, Martin Houle played for Saguenay 98.3 in 2008-09.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Feb 12 @ 2:25 PM ET
The got killed in the finals by Cincinnatti's WKRP 98.5
- Jsaquella






You ever seen Herb fire a slapper?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 12 @ 2:27 PM ET



You ever seen Herb fire a slapper?

- canadianpenfan


Les Nessman is a (frank)ing stone wall
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 12 @ 2:27 PM ET
Funny thing is, Martin Houle played for Saguenay 98.3 in 2008-09.
- NickTheKid87


Fixing a Houle where the rain came in...
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Feb 12 @ 2:29 PM ET
Les Nessman is a (frank)ing stone wall
- Jsaquella



Nessman would be the coach. For. Sure.

Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:29 PM ET
What was JvR suppose to do here? What was he suppose to achieve? The 90s was a different era. In my opinion goals are much harder to come by today. LeClair had help, his name was Eric Lindros. Again, I laid out the question. What was JvR suppose to achieve here? How can anyone think he was what he was here? The sealing of JvR is high. Much higher then Luke Schenn is gonna be. I compare Luke Schenn to Adam Foote if he is lucky and even then, Foote was the beneficiary of playing with hall of game players ( not to say he wasn't good). If John LeClair is a bad comparison, JvR is still more talented today and long term then Hartnell.

James van Riemsdyk wasn't bad last season, he was side tracked by injury. Twenty goals in his second season is always a good sign, especially as a secondary scorer.

- SuperSchennBros


I disagree i think goals are much easier today as they have clamped down on the clutching and holding that rampant in leclair's /lindro's times...The type of game JVR has to play is way easier now than it was.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 12 @ 2:32 PM ET
Nessman would be the coach. For. Sure.
- canadianpenfan


Arthur Carlson would be the team's Luke Schenn...slow and worthless.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 12 @ 2:32 PM ET
Why would we listen to Leafs fans? We know everything we need to know after only 12 games
2731color
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.17.2007

Feb 12 @ 2:33 PM ET
Fixing a Houle where the rain came in...
- Jsaquella

Th Magical Mystery Houle!
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

Feb 12 @ 2:35 PM ET
Anybody else hear this rumor that st louis and philly are starting to scout each other as trade partners... St Louis need a d man and have plenty of power forward type players.. That being said i dont think we have the necessary depth to start trading d men away
- nonpoint22


I dont see Blues having any kind of need for D-Man unless they are looking a slow 6th Dman which Flyers have a couple to choose from. I think if anything Flyers would be looking at a Blues D-man.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Feb 12 @ 2:36 PM ET
Homer scouring goalie scrapile as we speak
- vejim


Checking on the availability of Anton Khudobin right now.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Feb 12 @ 2:37 PM ET
Checking on the availability of Anton Khudobin right now.
- 77rams


he's right there
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 12 @ 2:41 PM ET
I disagree i think goals are much easier today as they have clamped down on the clutching and holding that rampant in leclair's /lindro's times...The type of game JVR has to play is way easier now than it was.
- Philly1980

In 1996-97 there were 12 40+ goal scorers.. last season there were 4. In 1995-96 there were 18 40+ goal scorers, and 8 50+...

Scoring goals was either easier then, or there were FAR superior players.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 12 @ 2:42 PM ET
I dont see Blues having any kind of need for D-Man unless they are looking a slow 6th Dman which Flyers have a couple to choose from. I think if anything Flyers would be looking at a Blues D-man.
- flyerfan28


Yeah St. Louis has a lot of dmen and we can't really afford to part with one anyway.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 12 @ 2:45 PM ET
In 1996-97 there were 12 40+ goal scorers.. last season there were 4. In 1995-96 there were 18 40+ goal scorers, and 8 50+...

Scoring goals was either easier then, or there were FAR superior players.

- jak521


Well the game tightened up considerably and you also have to factor in that coaches adapt to playing styles over time. Technology has also made it easier for teams to scout one another and as time moves forward, the bell curve of talent starts to flatten out more. Marginal players back then aren't as good as marginal players now. The drop off of talent was steeper.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 12 @ 2:45 PM ET
nor should it. this was typical of the reactions the day of the trade however:


June 23 @ 5:46 PM ET
"I don't think there is any doubt that the Flyers got a good player today. Schenn is a physical defensman that is young and is still developing. And he's a RH shot. But my initial reaction is that the Flyers traded a potential 1st line Winger for a #4 defenseman. Now if the Flyers had a big hole for that level of D man, I'd be okay with it. But they didn't. So it's a little puzzling. So we'll see what else happens.

I feel that JVR has a much higher potential to be an impact player then Schenn does."


i agreed w/ these assessments then and still, even though i didn't post these comments myself.

- isaiah520



Initial reactions are different from looking and thinking further into it. And my initial reaction was tempered with the disappointment of losing JVR, who I was looking forward to watching blossom alongside Claude Giroux. And that's what should be done. Further thought and information gathering to move from an initial reaction that has emotion involved. To a more thought out opinion once more information is gathered. It's a sign of objectivity. Instead of ignoring that information and stubbornly clinging to an initial reaction. Luke Schenn is already a #4 defenseman in this League. Right now! You believe that Luke Schenn is maxed out in his development now? At 23 years of age, there is no further room for improvement to become a better player then he is right now. Which would totally ignore the obvious areas that are evident in his play now. That can be improved with work by the player. With Coaching, mentoring, and the player gaining experience and maturity.
And from watching Schenn play here, I have a much better idea of what I think he can reach as a player.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 12 @ 2:45 PM ET
if by sad, you mean economical. and by economical i mean, someone pls kill me.
- OrangeBlack27

Kinda explains the desire to wander parking lots as a hobby
jmatchett
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mantua, NJ
Joined: 01.13.2008

Feb 12 @ 2:46 PM ET
Yeah St. Louis has a lot of dmen and we can't really afford to part with one anyway.
- NickTheKid87


Maybe we can pull a Coburn for Zhitnik type deal? Maybe get Kris Russell somehow?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 12 @ 2:46 PM ET
I dont see Blues having any kind of need for D-Man unless they are looking a slow 6th Dman which Flyers have a couple to choose from. I think if anything Flyers would be looking at a Blues D-man.
- flyerfan28


That's what I thought also. Blues might be looking for a 3rd pair player. We've got plenty of them. Don't know who they'd be interested in then.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 12 @ 2:47 PM ET
Who did post them? Luke Schenn is already a #4 defenseman in this League. Right now! So if that was true, that would mean that at 23 years old, and because you agree with that. You believe that Luke Schenn is maxed out in his development now. At 23 years of age, there is no further room for improvement to become a better player then he is right now. Which would totally ignore the obvious areas that are evident in his play now. That can be improved with work by the player. With Coaching, mentoring, and the player gaining experience and maturity.
And the comment above takes into consideration the potential of JVR. But altogether ignores the potential of Luke Schenn.

- MJL


Seems like the whole argument is based on what each of you think's Schenn & JVR's potential actually is.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

Feb 12 @ 2:48 PM ET
Maybe we can pull a Coburn for Zhitnik type deal? Maybe get Kris Russell somehow?
- jmatchett


Throw a 5th out there and see what comes back. That seems to be the way of things in the NHL these days.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 12 @ 2:48 PM ET
Seems like the whole argument is based on what each of you think's Schenn & JVR's potential actually is.
- NickTheKid87


Probably so.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:50 PM ET
In 1996-97 there were 12 40+ goal scorers.. last season there were 4. In 1995-96 there were 18 40+ goal scorers, and 8 50+...

Scoring goals was either easier then, or there were FAR superior players.

- jak521


Tell that to lindros who usually had two guys draped over him all game
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