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markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Feb 12 @ 1:49 PM ET
Liles+Brown+Komisarek for Yakupov.
- jbold


Leafs are overpaying. Have you seen Yakupov's goal celebrations? We cant take on that type of player.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Feb 12 @ 1:53 PM ET
ok.. i'll sit back and just wait and see.. kadri is proof that toronto needs to stop rushing guys into their lineups too young.. there is no need for it.. none at all.
- Dozzer

I'm not saying your wrong just giving my two cents.. Well nickel now we don't have penniesAs well every player is different
billyberg10
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: HEAVEN
Joined: 09.27.2011

Feb 12 @ 1:58 PM ET
ok.. i'll sit back and just wait and see.. kadri is proof that toronto needs to stop rushing guys into their lineups too young.. there is no need for it.. none at all.
- Dozzer


100% agree. Gardiner, Blacker,Finn, Percy,Nilsson are all maturing and are all legitimate prospects. No need to Rush the Blue chip prospect let him evolve properly
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 12 @ 1:59 PM ET
ok.. i'll sit back and just wait and see.. kadri is proof that toronto needs to stop rushing guys into their lineups too young.. there is no need for it.. none at all.
- Dozzer



Difference is that Gardiner had a strong year last year. Not saying that he is coming but if Eakins says he is ready, I wouldn't count it out
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 12 @ 2:01 PM ET
I would imagine barring a trade

JVR/Lupul-Bozak-Kessel

JVR/Lupul-Grabo-Kulemin

Mac-Kadri-Frattin

Komarov-McClement-Orr

- AdamFrench

If Carlyle wants to continue using the Grabo line as a shut-down line, I can see Lupul on the 3rd
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:02 PM ET
Sorry Dozzer disagree Gardiner will be back.. he is just getting the JVR treatment.. it was a clear message had nothing to do with the concussion he came out and played Ron Wilson's system.. and Carlyle was clear.. you will not play that way again... skate, pinch but do it smartly was the message.. he will be back in a few weeks.. Liles had a decent game yesterday.. but he is no defensive zone monster.. Gardiner with his bigger body will be much better.

As for Reilly.. I guarantee you he will be on the team next fall, but the same rules apply.. if he does not knuckle down in his own zone and use his speed to make the simple play then he might see some AHL action but if he gets the message loud and clear from Gardiner this season then he will be at fault.. I don't think he will.

Percy a very smart player who has bulked up a bit.. I wouldn't be surprised if he made it also.. but I forsee some AHL time for him.

- DoctorNHL


I'd like to think Gards will be back, but like dozzer, I don't think he'll make it back this season based on the surprising play of Franson, Fraser (Sp.), Holzer, and Koska.

Not to mention when Gunnar comes back RC is going to have to make some tough decisions as to how sits out/ goes down to the marlies - potentially having to go through waivers too.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:02 PM ET
If Carlyle wants to continue using the Grabo line as a shut-down line, I can see Lupul on the 3rd
- Feeling Glucky?

I figured that as well, but I can't see him getting 15 minutes a night, unless the hate he felt in Anaheim isn't behind him
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 12 @ 2:04 PM ET
I figured that as well, but I can't see him getting 15 minutes a night, unless the hate he felt in Anaheim isn't behind him
- AdamFrench

Well, with him on that line, it becomes a much bigger threat, and with that, more time.... two legit scoring lines. Plus our hall of fame 4th line.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Feb 12 @ 2:04 PM ET
I'm not saying your wrong just giving my two cents.. Well nickel now we don't have penniesAs well every player is different
- Yeti1181


yeah, i dont disagree with that at all

i just dont think young prospects should be anywhere near carlyle's hard nosed hockey system until they are ready for it.

the toronto maple leafs lineup is not a good development placement
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Feb 12 @ 2:05 PM ET
Difference is that Gardiner had a strong year last year. Not saying that he is coming but if Eakins says he is ready, I wouldn't count it out
- Canada Cup


yes, in an offense based system
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:06 PM ET
If Carlyle wants to continue using the Grabo line as a shut-down line, I can see Lupul on the 3rd
- Feeling Glucky?


Yea, I wouldn't count that out. I would have said he must be with Kessel - until JVR popped off.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Feb 12 @ 2:07 PM ET
Gardiner part of a deal to get a legitimate 1st line center?

Gardiner + Kadri for Getzlaf?

Would you do it?
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Feb 12 @ 2:09 PM ET
Gardiner part of a deal to get a legitimate 1st line center?

Gardiner + Kadri for Getzlaf?

Would you do it?

- Aetherial


Tempting but Nah. My hard on for Kadri and Gardiner is too much. Would I cry uncontrolably if it went down no, not at all.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Feb 12 @ 2:09 PM ET
I'd like to think Gards will be back, but like dozzer, I don't think he'll make it back this season based on the surprising play of Franson, Fraser (Sp.), Holzer, and Koska.

Not to mention when Gunnar comes back RC is going to have to make some tough decisions as to how sits out/ goes down to the marlies - potentially having to go through waivers too.

- A_Tree


yup, and for all his points gards is a minus 5 in the AHL

he's still making the little d-zone mistakes that carlyle wants out of his game. its going to take a bit of time.
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Feb 12 @ 2:09 PM ET
Gardiner part of a deal to get a legitimate 1st line center?

Gardiner + Kadri for Getzlaf?

Would you do it?

- Aetherial


Lol wouldn't that make the deal we got from Anaheim:

Beauchemin + Gardiner + Kadri for Getzlaf + Lupul + 4th.
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:09 PM ET
Well, with him on that line, it becomes a much bigger threat, and with that, more time.... two legit scoring lines. Plus our hall of fame 4th line.
- Feeling Glucky?



Nice...
A_Tree
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm r00ting for you™ - KS, ON
Joined: 05.06.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:10 PM ET
Gardiner part of a deal to get a legitimate 1st line center?

Gardiner + Kadri for Getzlaf?

Would you do it?

- Aetherial


Never
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 12 @ 2:11 PM ET
Gardiner part of a deal to get a legitimate 1st line center?

Gardiner + Kadri for Getzlaf?

Would you do it?

- Aetherial



I would.


robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 12 @ 2:12 PM ET
Tempting but Nah. My hard on for Kadri and Gardiner is too much. Would I cry uncontrolably if it went down no, not at all.
- mykokes



You'd get a new stiffy for Getzy



Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Feb 12 @ 2:13 PM ET
Gardiner part of a deal to get a legitimate 1st line center?

Gardiner + Kadri for Getzlaf?

Would you do it?

- Aetherial


If Getzlaf had a 4-5 year contract. Wouldn't pay that much for a guy who might walk (or whom we could sign for nothing).
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Feb 12 @ 2:13 PM ET
Tempting but Nah. My hard on for Kadri and Gardiner is too much. Would I cry uncontrolably if it went down no, not at all.
- mykokes


My hard on for Kadri so far this season is starting to threaten that tower in Dubai as the world's tallest free-standing structure. This kid is for real.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 12 @ 2:13 PM ET
yes, in an offense based system
- Dozzer



Liles playing in the same system. If Eakins said Gardiner was ready -- playing at last year's level -- and we could get something for Liles, then do it.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Feb 12 @ 2:14 PM ET
Liles playing in the same system. If Eakins said Gardiner was ready -- playing at last year's level -- and we could get something for Liles, then do it.
- Canada Cup


In a second.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 12 @ 2:15 PM ET
I would.
- robin_steele264


I'm sure u would...

I would trade RNH to the leafs for Komi and a 3rd.....
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Feb 12 @ 2:15 PM ET
You'd get a new stiffy for Getzy
- robin_steele264


So, let me have both! Then I can please my wife with two stiffys.

Seriously though, can we just let this season play out, I've liked how its gone so far. Worry about Phil's contract in the offseason, see if Kadri/Frattin/Scrivens/Reimer/Gardiner/JVR and whoever else can be core pieces here.
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