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SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Feb 12 @ 9:46 AM ET
How the hell do you know how Horcoff is as a leader? Are you in the room? From everyone I have heard from other than you and Cloutier, he is a fine leader. He works his ass off every game. You should compare the Oilers records with Horcoff in the lineup to when he is out of the line up.
- Al Hacker



I've heard what Clouts has heard about Horcoff, actually a bit worse than what he has said... i'm not going to make statements other than that though otherwise i'll sound like the guy who knows a guy who knows a guy
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Feb 12 @ 9:48 AM ET
None of the guys you mentioned are available. What a joke on the Phaneuf deal, he isn't going anywheres along with Kessel both will re-sign 5 year deals.

None of Edmontons young guns are going anywheres so what do you even have that Toronto wants, a team playing well. Gagner is ok but not even an upgrade on Bozak who has chemistry with Kessel, plays big PK minutes and is quickly becoming an face off ace.

MPS is worth nothing to Toronto. Think he gets time over Torontos own young guns Kadri and Frattin? Not a chance.

If there are scouts however they could be looking for some cheap help. MacArthur will be available no less than a 2nd if not a late first from a contender. However MacA is a poor fit for what you need.

Liles could be had for a 2nd maybe even a 3rd +. Franson is playing the best hockey of his career the last two weeks, he's not getting moved at this time.

Gunnarson could maybe be had but he's very underrated, a jack of all trades back there a 2nd will absolutely not get you Gunnar.

Could grab one of the depth guys for mid picks if that's what your looking for but I doubt it. Outside of Liles or MacA there's no deal that makes sense for TO and it's the depth that's keeping them winning right now.

- Blazed



Aquaman_2400
Location: seahorse village, ON
Joined: 01.05.2013

Feb 12 @ 9:49 AM ET
WHoever wrote this article is an absolute joke. Basically taking trolling to a whole knew level by forgoing the comments section and actually somehow getting a job.

First of all, its cheap and lame to use the Leafs in your title just because you know it will get you hits.

Secondly, Dion Phaneuf a salary dump? Contrary to what the mouth breathing portion of the fan base might tell you, Phaneuf is the best player the Leafs have and the Captain of their team. You think they would trade him for a salary dump? Even when you consider that if they buy out Mike Komiserik they are nearly 15 million under the cap. What a joke. Yeah the Leafs sure are in a hurry to move a top 10 player at the hardest position to aquire.


Secondly, if you think Bozak is a "third line" centre who a) would be traded or b) would play below Gagner if he was, then you are welcome to actually watch a Leaf game sometime.

The Leafs have found there "true number one centre" and he ain't going anywhere. Expect him to be resigned within days.

Oh and by the way, Phil Kessel would be the best player on your over rated team. Long term, I'll give you Hopkins, but jeez dude how you ever got a paying gig is frankly unexplainable.
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Feb 12 @ 9:51 AM ET
Sure, we will trade you Phaneuf. Select one of the following to send back the other way:

Taylor Hall
Jordan Eberle
Nail Yakupov
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

No?

See while you may want lots of players from our team, you have nothing to offer us outside of these players.

You want to know what Edmonton really needs to do? FIRE YOUR GM. Start the rebuild with him.

- Holy_Makinaw99


I think we could land Phaneuf if we wanted to....

Edmonton - Phaneuf, Kostka, and Steckel

Toronto - R.Whitney, E.Belanger, R.Jones, and D.Hordichuk
Aquaman_2400
Location: seahorse village, ON
Joined: 01.05.2013

Feb 12 @ 9:51 AM ET
By the way its pretty obvious that Edmonton would trade for either Gunnerson or Liles.
Aquaman_2400
Location: seahorse village, ON
Joined: 01.05.2013

Feb 12 @ 9:53 AM ET
I think we could land Phaneuf if we wanted to....

Edmonton - Phaneuf, Kostka, and Steckel

Toronto - R.Whitney, E.Belanger, R.Jones, and D.Hordichuk

- Reveen



No dude. Just.........no. That trade wouldnt net you Kostka. What a joke.

If you want Dion, it would honestly cost you Taylor Hall, otherwise, why would the Leafs bother.
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Feb 12 @ 9:53 AM ET
WHoever wrote this article is an absolute joke. Basically taking trolling to a whole knew level by forgoing the comments section and actually somehow getting a job.

First of all, its cheap and lame to use the Leafs in your title just because you know it will get you hits.

Secondly, Dion Phaneuf a salary dump? Contrary to what the mouth breathing portion of the fan base might tell you, Phaneuf is the best player the Leafs have and the Captain of their team. You think they would trade him for a salary dump? Even when you consider that if they buy out Mike Komiserik they are nearly 15 million under the cap. What a joke. Yeah the Leafs sure are in a hurry to move a top 10 player at the hardest position to aquire.


Secondly, if you think Bozak is a "third line" centre who a) would be traded or b) would play below Gagner if he was, then you are welcome to actually watch a Leaf game sometime.

The Leafs have found there "true number one centre" and he ain't going anywhere. Expect him to be resigned within days.

Oh and by the way, Phil Kessel would be the best player on your over rated team. Long term, I'll give you Hopkins, but jeez dude how you ever got a paying gig is frankly unexplainable.

- Aquaman_2400





I bet you I could name at least 30 defensemen better than Frankenstein Phaneuf.
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Feb 12 @ 9:53 AM ET
WHoever wrote this article is an absolute joke. Basically taking trolling to a whole knew level by forgoing the comments section and actually somehow getting a job.

First of all, its cheap and lame to use the Leafs in your title just because you know it will get you hits.

Secondly, Dion Phaneuf a salary dump? Contrary to what the mouth breathing portion of the fan base might tell you, Phaneuf is the best player the Leafs have and the Captain of their team. You think they would trade him for a salary dump? Even when you consider that if they buy out Mike Komiserik they are nearly 15 million under the cap. What a joke. Yeah the Leafs sure are in a hurry to move a top 10 player at the hardest position to aquire.


Secondly, if you think Bozak is a "third line" centre who a) would be traded or b) would play below Gagner if he was, then you are welcome to actually watch a Leaf game sometime.

The Leafs have found there "true number one centre" and he ain't going anywhere. Expect him to be resigned within days.

Oh and by the way, Phil Kessel would be the best player on your over rated team. Long term, I'll give you Hopkins, but jeez dude how you ever got a paying gig is frankly unexplainable.

- Aquaman_2400




oh man....
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Feb 12 @ 9:55 AM ET
WHoever wrote this article is an absolute joke. Basically taking trolling to a whole knew level by forgoing the comments section and actually somehow getting a job.

First of all, its cheap and lame to use the Leafs in your title just because you know it will get you hits.

Secondly, Dion Phaneuf a salary dump? Contrary to what the mouth breathing portion of the fan base might tell you, Phaneuf is the best player the Leafs have and the Captain of their team. You think they would trade him for a salary dump? Even when you consider that if they buy out Mike Komiserik they are nearly 15 million under the cap. What a joke. Yeah the Leafs sure are in a hurry to move a top 10 player at the hardest position to aquire.


Secondly, if you think Bozak is a "third line" centre who a) would be traded or b) would play below Gagner if he was, then you are welcome to actually watch a Leaf game sometime.

The Leafs have found there "true number one centre" and he ain't going anywhere. Expect him to be resigned within days.

Oh and by the way, Phil Kessel would be the best player on your over rated team. Long term, I'll give you Hopkins, but jeez dude how you ever got a paying gig is frankly unexplainable.

- Aquaman_2400

I might have to put you on a leash, sheesh.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Feb 12 @ 9:56 AM ET
Richard Cloutier: Hordi Chucked; Leafs Raked; Smyth Miffed
- Maxbone


Not a single one of those Leaf players make sense.

Simple solution for Smytty if he want better line and minutes...PLAY BETTER!
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Feb 12 @ 9:57 AM ET
Leafs want to unload their captain who plays close to 30 minutes a night and anchors the powerplay? No.
- dionschenn


Good, Cuz we sure as hell dont want him.
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Feb 12 @ 9:57 AM ET
No dude. Just.........no. That trade wouldnt net you Kostka. What a joke.

If you want Dion, it would honestly cost you Taylor Hall, otherwise, why would the Leafs bother.

- Aquaman_2400


Calgary - I.White, M.Stajan, N.Hagman, and J.Mayers

Toronto - D.Phaneuf, K.Aulie, and F.Sjostrom

You know what I'm saying !!!

Aquaman_2400
Location: seahorse village, ON
Joined: 01.05.2013

Feb 12 @ 9:58 AM ET
I might have to put you on a leash, sheesh.
- LeafMan



Come on bud, you seriously disagree with anything I wrote there?
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Feb 12 @ 9:59 AM ET
I'd inquire about colborne for fun. Haven't heard too much about him lately.
- ystoil


There is a reason why...he's stinkin it up.
Holy_Makinaw99
Location: Toronto
Joined: 08.16.2011

Feb 12 @ 9:59 AM ET
I think we could land Phaneuf if we wanted to....

Edmonton - Phaneuf, Kostka, and Steckel

Toronto - R.Whitney, E.Belanger, R.Jones, and D.Hordichuk

- Reveen


Are you kidding? So you want 2 defense that can play big minutes for your bag of spare parts? The players you are offering has negative value. Like I said, your team has no one to offer us.
Aquaman_2400
Location: seahorse village, ON
Joined: 01.05.2013

Feb 12 @ 9:59 AM ET


I bet you I could name at least 30 defensemen better than Frankenstein Phaneuf.

- Reveen



First of all, no you can't. Second of all, based on your trade proposal, you need to shut up and let the big kids talk, son.
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Feb 12 @ 10:00 AM ET
Are you kidding? So you want 2 defense that can play big minutes for your bag of spare parts? The players you are offering has negative value. Like I said, your team has no one to offer us.
- Holy_Makinaw99


see original Phaneuf deal
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Feb 12 @ 10:02 AM ET
Come on bud, you seriously disagree with anything I wrote there?
- Aquaman_2400

I have my own opinions, don't stir up anything here.
Aquaman_2400
Location: seahorse village, ON
Joined: 01.05.2013

Feb 12 @ 10:02 AM ET
oh man....
- SpoiledByOil



Phil Kessel, playing with Lupul gets sixth in the league in scoring.

Eberle, with a shooting percentage that is not maintainable, and playhing with Hall, Hopkins, and with Hemsky, Gagner taking some of the heat off, still manages less points.


Seriously, if you think Anyone on Edmonton is, at this point in their career, any where close to the skill level and utter dominance of Phil Kessel then I have to ask, why do you even comment on hockey? If you won't admit facts then your opinions mean nothing.
Holy_Makinaw99
Location: Toronto
Joined: 08.16.2011

Feb 12 @ 10:03 AM ET
see original Phaneuf deal
- Reveen


I think everyone can agree that we fleeced Calgary on that trade.
Aquaman_2400
Location: seahorse village, ON
Joined: 01.05.2013

Feb 12 @ 10:04 AM ET
see original Phaneuf deal
- Reveen



So your logic is that because Calgary is an utterly ridiculous organization, that the Leafs should just give away their best player? Should Pittsburgh unload James Neale for someone like Goligoski?

Hey maybe the Leafs can trade Gunnerson for him, right?
OilHorse
Edmonton Oilers
Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC
Joined: 10.12.2010

Feb 12 @ 10:07 AM ET
So your logic is that because Calgary is an utterly ridiculous organization, that the Leafs should just give away their best player? Should Pittsburgh unload James Neale for someone like Goligoski?

Hey maybe the Leafs can trade Gunnerson for him, right?

- Aquaman_2400

Take a breather bud...seems like your brain is about to melt
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Feb 12 @ 10:08 AM ET
Phaneuf is a loser, always has been & always will be.

My brother played in Europe & played with a guy who played Junior in Red Deer with Dion & said the entire team hated him. Horrible attitude, a "me" player & disrespected everyone.

Then he goes to Calgary & why was he dealt - again the dressing room couldn't stand him.

Why anyone would want this guy on their team is beyond me.

- newmy


NHLers cant stand him either. At the All star game when ever he would come around all the other guys would make comments and walk away. Even Kessel. Dion is a tool and is not well liked by anyone.
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Feb 12 @ 10:10 AM ET
First of all, no you can't. Second of all, based on your trade proposal, you need to shut up and let the big kids talk, son.
- Aquaman_2400


Ok... in no particular order

1) E.Karlsson
2) P.K.Subban
3) A.Markov
4) T.Enstrom
5) N.Kronwall (what Phaneuf should be if he wasn't such a wussy)
6) A.Edler
7) K.Letang
8) O.E.Larsson
9) A.Pietrangelo
10)D.Byfuglien
11)M.Carle
12)K.Shattenkirk
13)D.Boyle
14)B.Campbell
15)R.Suter
16)S.Weber
17)M.Staal
18)K.Yandle
19)C.Erhoff
20)Z.Chara
21)D.Kieth
22)K.Seabrook
23)M.Green
24)D.Doughty
25)R.McDonough
26)M.DelZotto
27)K.Timmonen
28)F.Tyutin
29)T.Gilbert
30)L.Schenn
billyberg10
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: HEAVEN
Joined: 09.27.2011

Feb 12 @ 10:10 AM ET
To Edm: Komiserek and Steckle
To Tor: frozen cow patty
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