Please advise us how you know how Katz will come up with his share of the money?

His companies are not publicly traded so he doesn't have to provide the exact details.
- Sabata

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i wasnt saying how he was going to get the money, or that i knew what his companies had, i was saying there was financing and that the building wasnt being paid out in CASH, and that CASHFLOW is relevant... go to school buddy

It's possible for the leafs new management/ownership to want a gut job of team, I don't see whitney and a 2nd ever being close enough to get phanuef away from them. As much as I hate the guy though, seeing him along side J. Schultz would be good. I would more look at Bozak if the oil think they could resign him, he did grow up with Eb's in regina
- TheCleeper

The Whitney and a second sounds more like a scenario for JML than Phaneuf

Way to troll the leaf fans Richard. They fall for it everytime, and your hit count goes up up up...

Most of your targets I just don't see. But Phaneuf would be the most likely, because he is the only player that makes over 3.5 million that does not have either a no trade or a no movement clause. (6 players do) The Leafs have 47 million committed, but there are a lot of spaces to fill by the looks of it (12 are either UFA or RFA at the end of the season) so the math doesn't favor the leafs, as they will have to use a lot of prospects as well as resign some key players (5 defense men need to be signed this summer).

Taking 6.5 million off the payroll to use to resign those defense, plus Gardiner and Rielly as prospects makes a bit of sense. Who would they want though? Hemsky plus prospect/2nd rounder?

The Whitney and a second sounds more like a scenario for JML than Phaneuf
- abware

for JML might actually work... its essentially what we gave up for him so...

Bozak for paajarvi and a 3 rd

for JML might actually work... its essentially what we gave up for him so...
- Not_Sure42

trade might go through but do the oil want another tom gilbert?

for JML might actually work... its essentially what we gave up for him so...
- Not_Sure42

Liles is one of the leafs that has a limited NTC

It's possible for the leafs new management/ownership to want a gut job of team, I don't see whitney and a 2nd ever being close enough to get phanuef away from them. As much as I hate the guy though, seeing him along side J. Schultz would be good. I would more look at Bozak if the oil think they could resign him, he did grow up with Eb's in regina
- TheCleeper

Before we worry about picking up more unsigned players I think we should be trying to resign some of the potential UFA's in the organization already. Smid, Fistric, and Jones I hope to see resigned before the end of the season.

Liles is one of the leafs that has a limited NTC
- shvmr

but remember the oilers are an up and coming team, (actually serious) and he might want to run a pp with schultz and either of your two pp units

trade might go through but do the oil want another tom gilbert?
- TheCleeper

If only his contract was two years shorter I would be fine giving him a chance over Whitney. 3+ more years at 3.875 mil. is a big risk with Whitney coming off the books at the end of this year.

but it's absolutely no secret that he will be bought out at the end of the season, not only so the Oilers can rid themselves of his cap hit, but also so they can rid themselves of a leadership issue that exists. I'm starting to think the 2nd compliance buyout will be used on Ryan Smyth, because his game and his attitude stink. The wonderkids don't need to be around players who care more about complaining than what line they are on or if they are winning.

If Horcoff's cap hit fits next year he will not be bought out. The team needs some vets, and as overpaid as Horcoff is he is a good third line center.

If Smyth's attitude is such an issue, why was he re-signed? I find it hard to believe that being put on the fourth line has him acting like a 10 year old. Yes his play is horrendous, and he has to be aware of it.
- abware

I tend to agree with you.
Is Smytty fustrated hell yes.
Does he think he is a 4th liner no.
Does he pout about it?
This answer could be where everything is.
Richard is totally wrong here again he is trying
to see where he does fit in on this team
and beginning to realizs here he might be a 4th liner.

Way to troll the leaf fans Richard. They fall for it everytime, and your hit count goes up up up...

Most of your targets I just don't see. But Phaneuf would be the most likely, because he is the only player that makes over 3.5 million that does not have either a no trade or a no movement clause. (6 players do) The Leafs have 47 million committed, but there are a lot of spaces to fill by the looks of it (12 are either UFA or RFA at the end of the season) so the math doesn't favor the leafs, as they will have to use a lot of prospects as well as resign some key players (5 defense men need to be signed this summer).

Taking 6.5 million off the payroll to use to resign those defense, plus Gardiner and Rielly as prospects makes a bit of sense. Who would they want though? Hemsky plus prospect/2nd rounder?
- shvmr

No, it doesn't make sense at all because he is our number one Dman and our captain. You guys can laugh all you want and make all the Phaneuf jokes in the world. Leaf fans know what he brings to this team and he has done a hell of a job shutting down other team's top lines this year.

I never thought I'd get the opportunity to read an abortion. Here I am, though...

Buddy you are nuts!! The Leafs are kicking ass and taking numbers right now, and the only trade they might consider is Kulemin for Paanjarvi. Dion is a horse who plays some of the biggest minutes in the league. As for Kessel the only Oiler who could hold his jock strap is Eberle!

but remember the oilers are an up and coming team, (actually serious) and he might want to run a pp with schultz and either of your two pp units
- Not_Sure42

I don't see the Oilers being that interested. His cap is high, he's under performed, and the Oiler team needs is a first pairing defenseman that is big and nasty to go with J Shultz. With our prospects coming up, we already have too many 2nd and 3rd line defense men.

I suddenly thought of something though, with Reimer going down, and if it's serious, could the leafs go after Khabby as a stop gap for this season? Be a lot cheaper than the other goalies available, and we have a good khabby so far.

I never thought I'd get the opportunity to read an abortion. Here I am, though...
- MaximumBone

Buddy you are nuts!! The Leafs are kicking ass and taking numbers right now, and the only trade they might consider is Kulemin for Paanjarvi. Dion is a horse who plays some of the biggest minutes in the league. As for Kessel the only Oiler who could hold his jock strap is Eberle!
- Bullot

yea right!! Kessel's value is not that high, his skill and calibre is exceptional and overlooked at times by most people, but still his value is much lower than eberle's at the moment, especially since he still hasn't made any committments for TO, as he's a free agent at the end of 2014-2015. I would say Oilers could get Kessel for gagner +, perhaps the + would have to be a player like Pajaarvi but thats all that would be needed for Kessel.

yea right!! Kessel's value is not that high, his skill and calibre is exceptional and overlooked at times by most people, but still his value is much lower than eberle's at the moment, especially since he still hasn't made any committments for TO, as he's a free agent at the end of 2014-2015. I would say Oilers could get Kessel for gagner +, perhaps the + would have to be a player like Pajaarvi but thats all that would be needed for Kessel.
- lovin

Good Luck

I don't see the Oilers being that interested. His cap is high, he's under performed, and the Oiler team needs is a first pairing defenseman that is big and nasty to go with J Shultz. With our prospects coming up, we already have too many 2nd and 3rd line defense men.

I suddenly thought of something though, with Reimer going down, and if it's serious, could the leafs go after Khabby as a stop gap for this season? Be a lot cheaper than the other goalies available, and we have a good khabby so far.
- shvmr

Because of the contract I agree. But if Whitney goes then the Oil do need another pmd to replace him. If he had only 1 year after this one it would be perfect, but 3 is too much money and risk to take on for what he would be here for, a third pair, second unit pp guy.

I am wondering the cost of two players actually.
Yes I can see what the interest in Bozak would be,
I can see Tambo having discussions centering around him.
But then again I could also see a MacArthur fitting in well
here.

They were scouting Komisarek in the press box

You'll have to wait till the Leafs go on a losing streak. Right now they are on top of the world and will reject any and all trades.

Well, they still will when they are losing, but some will actually want to trade players away.

The Phaneuf/Kessel trade blogs were great.

No, it doesn't make sense at all because he is our number one Dman and our captain. You guys can laugh all you want and make all the Phaneuf jokes in the world. Leaf fans know what he brings to this team and he has done a hell of a job shutting down other team's top lines this year.
- dionschenn

Most of the Dion trashing comes from Leaf fans these days.


It's died off over the last 4 games... But it'll be back.

no offence but have you actually watched a leafs games this year? orr mclaren mcclement have been an extremely effective 4th line... and why would the leafs possibly want to make a trade during 4 game win streak? article doesnt really make sense

yea right!! Kessel's value is not that high, his skill and calibre is exceptional and overlooked at times by most people, but still his value is much lower than eberle's at the moment, especially since he still hasn't made any committments for TO, as he's a free agent at the end of 2014-2015. I would say Oilers could get Kessel for gagner +, perhaps the + would have to be a player like Pajaarvi but thats all that would be needed for Kessel.
- lovin

that trade doesnt even work in NHL 13... next