If they move Bieksa it won't be until after the season is over or if they're out of the race, and I don't see that happening.
- HonkFortheGoose

I was saying Bieksa, Hamhuis or Hjalmarsson for the offseason bc both Chicago & Vancouver are in big cap trouble

+/- doesn't worry me so much on a crappy team where just about everyone is a minus...
It doesn't mean you can't still get useful players that will help when in better surroundings
Guys like Giordano (even last year btw) and Smid may not be Seabrook or Weber, but they're a hell of a lot better defensively than Leopold or a washed up & injured Regehr

I like high scoring, always have. Although watching 90's sabres wasn't bad with oustanding goaltending and guys like ray and barnaby pesting it up lol.
- Smittyx36

I really enjoyed the way the kings played during their playoff run,

I thought the pens flyers series was a joke. Could barely call it hockey

Can we draft a coach?
- sbroads24

That would be nice. A back in the day Scotty Bowman?

Interesting. A year ago no one would have ever said draft D with a top pick. But with us looking so bad on D Its definitely something to look at. We could obviously use either a top forward or d.
- Smittyx36

Even if the defense was decent right now, he's still a player you take. They could always package a few guys together to try and get another guy that could help in the forward ranks. Jones is going to be a cornerstone franchise guy. He's gutsy and he's got the skills. The WJC was really his coming out party. It was fantastic to watch.

Can we draft a coach?
- sbroads24

I asked if we could trade for one a few weeks ago.

Even if the defense was decent right now, he's still a player you take. They could always package a few guys together to try and get another guy that could help in the forward ranks. Jones is going to be a cornerstone franchise guy. He's gutsy and he's got the skills. The WJC was really his coming out party. It was fantastic to watch.
- HonkFortheGoose

Sounds good to me

I asked if we could trade for one a few weeks ago.
- HonkFortheGoose

Ruff and Miller for Babcock

I really enjoyed the way the kings played during their playoff run,

I thought the pens flyers series was a joke. Could barely call it hockey
- Putzfrau

Yea that was terrible hockey lol. Plus we most likely hate both of those teams!

I was saying Bieksa, Hamhuis or Hjalmarsson for the offseason bc both Chicago & Vancouver are in big cap trouble

+/- doesn't worry me so much on a crappy team where just about everyone is a minus...
It doesn't mean you can't still get useful players that will help when in better surroundings
Guys like Giordano (even last year btw) and Smid may not be Seabrook or Weber, but they're a hell of a lot better defensively than Leopold or a washed up & injured Regehr
- jdfitz77

So, that means it doesn't matter that Myers, Leo and Sekera are all minus players right now? Because they're on a crappy team?

That logic makes absolutely no sense. At all.

It's apparently ok to be a bad player on a crappy team. Got it.

If we do end up with a top pick who is the best fit in buffalo??? I want a guy thats at least 6' that can do it all lol! Score, hit, pass, lead
- Smittyx36

mckinnon is considered the best center in the draft but he is only 5'11.

mckinnon is considered the best center in the draft but he is only 5'11.
- joshs

The other guy that's expected to go early, Jonathan Drouin, is also only 5'11"

Too small, but lots of speed and lots of talent. Would certainly open up some options with line formation
- Putzfrau

Grigorenko and Armia are both 6'3 and over 200lbs
Ennis is the only guy in that group that could be considered small

I don't think anyone is criticizing the top line, but after that there is nothing.

IMO the only one who should realistically be on a second line is ennis. As much as I like foligno his hands are like lead and stafford is obviously garbage. Grebe is borderline useless on a second line. Certain combinations of foligno/Leino/ennis/grigo I can live with, but there's nothing there i feel super confident with.
- Putzfrau

I think you would be substantially happier with this...

Vanek-Hodgson-Pominville
Clowe-Ennis-Perry
Foligno-Grigorenko-Girgensons/Armia

The other guy that's expected to go early, Jonathan Drouin, is also only 5'11"
- HonkFortheGoose

If CBJ pick first they will most likely take Mackinnon, If Florida or Wash pick first I could see Jones going 1st. I think it could go either way

I think you would be substantially happier with this...

Vanek-Hodgson-Pominville
Clowe-Ennis-Perry
Foligno-Grigorenko-Girgensons/Armia
- kingcong39

I'm a little scared that Girgensons isn't back from his concussion yet. That happened right after training camp started here. He's been out about 3 weeks now. And it's not his first one.

i want the sabres to draft Nichushkin! russian power forward = beast mode.

The other guy that's expected to go early, Jonathan Drouin, is also only 5'11"
- HonkFortheGoose

He's a winger though
There's talk of McKinnon actually dropping out of the top5
I'd be surprised,
But a top guy seems to drop every year for one reason or another

The other guy that's expected to go early, Jonathan Drouin, is also only 5'11"
- HonkFortheGoose

arent they linemates? i get a little sketched out by that.....are they good because they play together or are they good and play together......chicken and egg theory. then again nail yakupov and galy.....

I'm a little scared that Girgensons isn't back from his concussion yet. That happened right after training camp started here. He's been out about 3 weeks now. And it's not his first one.
- HonkFortheGoose

as someone that has had enough concussions in my lifetime but has never played hockey, i would think 3 weeks is fair. it could take a little while but he'll be fine. it could be that effects haven't worn off or that he needs to re-up his conditioning again, but i'm not worried.

If CBJ pick first they will most likely take Mackinnon, If Florida or Wash pick first I could see Jones going 1st. I think it could go either way
- sbroads24

Believe it or not, Jones is the consensus #1 right now. Obviously there's still a lot of time for that to change, but MacKinnon didn't have a good WJC and Jones did. He's overtaken that top spot. For now at least.

He's a winger though
There's talk of McKinnon actually dropping out of the top5
I'd be surprised,
But a top guy seems to drop every year for one reason or another
- jdfitz77

Hockeysfuture.com has him listed as a Center, though I thought he was a winger as well. But even still, he's the exact same size as MacKinnon. There's even only like a 3 pound weight difference.

Grigorenko and Armia are both 6'3 and over 200lbs
Ennis is the only guy in that group that could be considered small
- jdfitz77

Yeah I should have been more clear. I used the word small but I should have really just said their all more finesse players. They seem to play small, dont have any physical component to their game, which isnt necessarily a bad thing. I just don't know if the three of them would work out as well as it seems on paper, but I'd certainly give it a shot.

I've also barely seen armia play, so...

Believe it or not, Jones is the consensus #1 right now. Obviously there's still a lot of time for that to change, but MacKinnon didn't have a good WJC and Jones did. He's overtaken that top spot. For now at least.
- HonkFortheGoose

Yea I think Jones is better but CBJ needs scoring, plus they just drafted Murray, I wonder if they will trade out of the 1st spot........

We need some humor in here.

arent they linemates? i get a little sketched out by that.....are they good because they play together or are they good and play together......chicken and egg theory. then again nail yakupov and galy.....
- joshs

I didn't know, so I looked, and it looks like they both play for Halifax. Not sure if they play on the same line though. I would think they do, but I don't know for sure.