I might but it would really depend, like if we just missed the playoffs and ended up with the first overall again teams in the top ten would be so pissed, a team like Colorado might be willing to swap firsts, we throw in something and they throw in O'Reilly (if he still hasn't signed by then)
- ALEDDO

Unless it's to move to 2 or 3 I'm not doing it.

What if we miss the playoff by one point and win the lotto for 1st overall


- Lahey

i would be very interested in said top ten in that case...

debateable, but im arguing the 2nd point u made. i put schultz in the top 3.

havent seen enough of conacher, but by all accounts hes killing it

the homer in me wants to put schultz at 1 as hes a dman and not looking like a rookie.
but ill suffice to say hes for sure in the top 3 until i see more of conacher.

tarasenko, schultz, conacher, yakupov
- hugefemale dog77

It definitely is close, and I was wrong, I said he was 3rd in goals but yakupov is actually tied for first in goals and is only one point behind tarasenko. Not bad considering tarasenko has a few years on yakupov.

I love how they went from using the actual Wendy to this

makes sense though, why have some fat chick be the spokes person of a fast food joint
- ALEDDO

I thought it might be before and after pics

i would be very interested in said top ten in that case...
- hugefemale dog77

To me it depends how it happens. If we are in the hunt most the year and then all of a sudden injuries hit us and we loss the last 5 or 6, then oh well. I'll take the top 10.

i dont understand ur point. would i love to have getzlaf?? holy eff yeah

for every success u name, ill name you 100 busts.
could be wrong, but didnt we pick pouliot AHEAD of getzlaf? maybe that was a different year (the parise trade... )

datysuk was drafted in the fifth or something silly.
outside of the top 3-5 overall, it's very difficult to predict. even then.

plus, we need valuable vets with these kids..not just one more kid after one more kid.
id much rather make a move for a proven guy to help us, than gamble with a pick if i had the choice.
even if said pick turns out, we could be waiting at least a few years for any impact. and the same goes for klefbom.

if not now, we need help asap
- hugefemale dog77

My point is that it is very likely we can get exactly the player we need by simply drafting and developing him rather than overpaying for him on the trade market.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this. IMO, The Plan is working and there is no reason to deviate from it. Next year is when I'd look to make a big move or two.

It could be that Kreuger is still attempting to develop a system. I can't imagine it's easy to develop a system for team on the crux of competing, but still in a stage where growth needs to be accommodated. We can't say our roster is exactly easily balanced for offense and defense either.Also keep in mind that, having only been a head coach in European style leagues, there may be an adjustment time for him as well. I'm not saying to excuse him as he's had the past two seasons to be learning, but give a bit more time before proclaiming failure.
- MaximumBone

He's been in North America long enough to get used to our style of play.

There's zero evidence of a system being implemented. We do nothing similar... Every game our players look like they have no idea what's going on. They look like chickens with their heads chopped off. Prior to every game, Krueger mentions that team x plays this way, so in order to play against them, we have to play this way. That's a sh1tty attitude. OK, team x... You just play your game... We'll try our best to accommodate/contain it.

Why, you can't beat us? and you can't score. Oh, you want a lottery pick.... makes sense
- scoot174

Just cause your team is going nowhere but 9th... And if u help us get another top 10 pick then so be it... You poor bastards that cheer for Calgary just keep kidding urselves... It's quite hilarious...

I love how they went from using the actual Wendy to this

makes sense though, why have some fat chick be the spokes person of a fast food joint
- ALEDDO

New Wendy is hot!

He's been in North America long enough to get used to our style of play.

There's zero evidence of a system being implemented. We do nothing similar... Every game our players look like they have no idea what's going on. They look like chickens with their heads chopped off. Prior to every game, Krueger mentions that team x plays this way, so in order to play against them, we have to play this way. That's a sh1tty attitude.
- laughs2907

Krueger is a terrible coach

Unless it's to move to 2 or 3 I'm not doing it.
- Lahey

Well in my scenario if the draft was today and Oilers did win the lotto, colorado would be 5th, if we traded the 1st overall and lets say Rieder + a 2nd or something for their 5th and O'Reilly we could still maybe pick up Barkov or Monahan. Not bad if you ask me. I am assuming you would want Jones? He is probably the only one I would want that bad, Mackinnon is just more of the same of what we already have.

It could be that Kreuger is still attempting to develop a system. I can't imagine it's easy to develop a system for team on the crux of competing, but still in a stage where growth needs to be accommodated. We can't say our roster is exactly easily balanced for offense and defense either.Also keep in mind that, having only been a head coach in European style leagues, there may be an adjustment time for him as well. I'm not saying to excuse him as he's had the past two seasons to be learning, but give a bit more time before proclaiming failure.
- MaximumBone

If any system was implemented last night - it was Swiss. However Dubnyk plugged the holes.

(Oh that's awful)

He is also a +24, always a good thing. I would be extremely happy to either just miss the playoffs, or have a first round exit and pick this guy up.
- ALEDDO

Nicholas Petan is +60 with 98 points Oh so small but oh so good!

If any system was implemented last night - it was Swiss. However Dubnyk plugged the holes.

(Oh that's awful)
- Salvo

Nice

To me it depends how it happens. If we are in the hunt most the year and then all of a sudden injuries hit us and we loss the last 5 or 6, then oh well. I'll take the top 10.
- Lahey

completely on board with this.
ive said from the get go, id love to make the playoffs, but just being in the hunt till the end and playing meaningfull games late was my hope.
and if ur scenario played out, id be dissapointed, but satisfied. that's ahuge improvement.
and happy with the top ten

my concerns is that if we continue to play like last night, we'll be looking at a top ten pick WITHOUT lottery luck

He's been in North America long enough to get used to our style of play.

There's zero evidence of a system being implemented. We do nothing similar... Every game our players look like they have no idea what's going on. They look like chickens with their heads chopped off. Prior to every game, Krueger mentions that team x plays this way, so in order to play against them, we have to play this way. That's a sh1tty attitude. OK, team x... You just play your game... We'll try our best to accommodate/contain it.
- laughs2907

It would be nice to have one consistent coach that instilled a system or philosophy of a system that team can work with and develop from... This spontaneity will only lead to another (frank)ing coaching change... Which means more failures...

If any system was implemented last night - it was Swiss. However Dubnyk plugged the holes.

(Oh that's awful)
- Salvo

(frank)in rights!

If any system was implemented last night - it was Swiss. However Dubnyk plugged the holes.

(Oh that's awful)
- Salvo

Krueger is a terrible coach
- Reveen

It's a little early, but so far I'm not a fan. 5 on 5 is the real test, and so far it's been ridiculously bad.

Nicholas Petan is +60 with 98 points Oh so small but oh so good!
- MaximumBone

Jeeeez, 5'9! That is crazy, but some guys that size can play in the NHL, probably not at center though.

My point is that it is very likely we can get exactly the player we need by simply drafting and developing him rather than overpaying for him on the trade market.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this. IMO, The Plan is working and there is no reason to deviate from it. Next year is when I'd look to make a big move or two.
- thefullnelson

ill totally agree to disagree, and it may turn out just as u hope.
but you're wording of "very likely we can get exactly the player we need" is not at all the case.

maybe im just nitpicking at wording, but its tough to understand inflections and such on a message board.
point is; the draft is an absolute crapshoot. especially outside of the top 5.
we way more than likely end up with pouliot. not eberle.
just ask the oiler scouting for the best part of 20 years....

It would be nice to have one consistent coach that instilled a system or philosophy of a system that team can work with and develop from... This spontaneity will only lead to another (frank)ing coaching change... Which means more failures...
- saskoil21

A certain degree of spontaneity is great, but we've been focusing on it far too much. This team needs an identity more than anything else. Like I said before, 80% proactive/20 reactive... Right now it's 2% proactive/98% reactive.

It's a little early, but so far I'm not a fan. 5 on 5 is the real test, and so far it's been ridiculously bad.
- laughs2907

i think it's too early to make any long term assessments, but i think he's really given them the green light offensively without any real system. and this has confused them more than anything else.

it seems we give up a sh1tload of odd man rushes, quality chances etc while struggling to have any real structure offensively.

i was a little worried he was gonna stifle the kids abit by doing the swiss thing thats worked for him in the past against superior teams.
choking off offence with sort of a trapish system and counterpunch.
it hasnt looked like that's been his strategy at all.

it actually seems like it changes from night to night

not sure if LB will be happy with me talking x's and o's.
only people IN THE GAME know anything and are the only ones allowed to have these kinds of opinions.
all hail our GM overlords

- Reveen

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

New Wendy is hot!
- thefullnelson

Hot as you can get without having a soul.