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nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:10 AM ET
I know you love Iggy but you better come up with a better offer than what you tossed out earlier.
- dbell646

calgary will keep losing and we will get him for cheap and then throw everything at a bigger trade
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:13 AM ET
Prediction- You talk about trades everyday from now until the trade deadline (even after) and get all pissy when they do nothing- just like last year. You're setting yourself up for disappointment again.

at nh
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:15 AM ET
Prediction- You talk about trades everyday from now until the trade deadline (even after) and get all pissy when they do nothing- just like last year. You're setting yourself up for disappointment again.

at nh

- canadianpenfan

Well when they dont happen, I just do the trades on the latest NHL game and then win the cup

And so far looking at all the trades that didnt go down, how many cups have they won??

lawyered
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:15 AM ET
letang and nisk on ice for practice
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:18 AM ET
Well when they dont happen, I just do the trades on the latest NHL game and then win the cup

And so far looking at all the trades that didnt go down, how many cups have they won??

lawyered

- nh4442



And they would have won the cup every year if they made trades...i see the light. Trade everyone.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:19 AM ET
letang and nisk on ice for practice
- nh4442



Good, now they can be traded.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 12 @ 11:37 AM ET
fixed
- nh4442


Kunitz-Crosby-Iginla
Setoguchi-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Sutter-Clutterbuck
Adams-Vitale-Glass
Jeffrey/Boychuk

TK/Tangradi/D-man prospect/1st round pick traded
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Feb 12 @ 11:40 AM ET
Setoguchi sucks. He's closer to Cheechoo than he is a top 6 solution. And hes on the hook for $3 million next year. Its not going to happen. It doesnt make sense. He was demoted to the 4th line on a team that cant score.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 12 @ 11:42 AM ET
Setoguchi sucks. He's closer to Cheechoo than he is a top 6 solution. And hes on the hook for $3 million next year. Its not going to happen. It doesnt make sense.
- Deadstar


He's got more potential than TK and Tk makes $2 mil. Would be a try out. Sometimes it works IF given a chance. He's played well with star C's.
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Feb 12 @ 11:44 AM ET
He's got more potential than TK and Tk makes $2 mil. Would be a try out. Sometimes it works IF given a chance. He's played well with star C's.
- Orpik44


TK doesnt have a contract next year. Setoguchi does. You dont give guys like that a "tryout".
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 12 @ 11:47 AM ET
TK doesnt have a contract next year. Setoguchi does. You dont give guys like that a "tryout".
- Deadstar


Most observers know for a fact that Setoguchi didn't work out on Minn system and that he works well with a star C. He could do well either with Sid or Malkin. TK will NEVER do well with either. Think about it for a moment instead of saying the guy is a new TK. Cheap to acquire and could bring results.
Clutterbuck would be the main piece btw
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Feb 12 @ 11:48 AM ET
Most observers know for a fact that Setoguchi didn't work out on Minn system and that he works well with a star C. He could do well either with Sid or Malkin. TK will NEVER do well with either. Think about it for a moment instead of saying the guy is a new TK. Cheap to acquire and could bring results.
Clutterbuck would be the main piece btw

- Orpik44


Mikko Koivu is a hell of a center. And hes not cheap.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:48 AM ET
And they would have won the cup every year if they made trades...i see the light. Trade everyone.
- canadianpenfan

hey it could have helped... instead they went out 1st rd...

your mean today!
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:51 AM ET
Mikko Koivu is a hell of a center. And hes not cheap.
- Deadstar



Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 12 @ 11:51 AM ET
Mikko Koivu is a hell of a center. And hes not cheap.
- Deadstar


Koivu ain't no Thornton, Sid or Malkin. "System" is the main problem. Again, he "could" do well playing for us. We'll never know but I'd rather try him than keep making the same mistake with TK. Setoguchi will never be my first option, just a guy that could be had for something we won't miss.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:53 AM ET
He's got more potential than TK and Tk makes $2 mil. Would be a try out. Sometimes it works IF given a chance. He's played well with star C's.
- Orpik44



sorry had too, it just happens to be on the article on yahoo im reading right now..
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Feb 12 @ 11:54 AM ET
Most observers know for a fact that Setoguchi didn't work out on Minn system and that he works well with a star C. He could do well either with Sid or Malkin. TK will NEVER do well with either. Think about it for a moment instead of saying the guy is a new TK. Cheap to acquire and could bring results.
Clutterbuck would be the main piece btw

- Orpik44


Nothing is going to be cheap this season.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 12 @ 11:57 AM ET
Nothing is going to be cheap this season.
- cap1681


I bet Setoguchi won't be too hard to get. TK/Tangradi or a 3rd Pick would do it.

BTW: I didn't vote for a Despres for Setoguchi trade. That would be insane.
akane13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: raleigh
Joined: 01.24.2008

Feb 12 @ 12:00 PM ET
Most observers know for a fact that Setoguchi didn't work out on Minn system and that he works well with a star C. He could do well either with Sid or Malkin. TK will NEVER do well with either. Think about it for a moment instead of saying the guy is a new TK. Cheap to acquire and could bring results.
Clutterbuck would be the main piece btw

- Orpik44



He can't keep up with Koivu in Minnesota. He was dealt away when he came crashing back to reality in San Jose where he ultimately flopped with Thorton and Marleau. If he is put next to Crosby or Malkin, he's hardly going to rediscover whatever black magic possessed him the one year he lit it up. He's a slower, more grossly overpaid version of TK. At 3mil a year with another year left and the cap going down, he's hardly cheap and definitely not worth whatever pieces would be required to get him.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Feb 12 @ 12:02 PM ET
I bet Setoguchi won't be too hard to get. TK/Tangradi or a 3rd Pick would do it.

BTW: I didn't vote for a Despres for Setoguchi trade. That would be insane.

- Orpik44


Tangradi has very little value. Would have to be a throw in. Minny may consider that if you change the 3rd to a 1st. Wouldn't be willing to give up a 1st for Seto
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 12 @ 12:04 PM ET
He can't keep up with Koivu in Minnesota. He was dealt away when he came crashing back to reality in San Jose where he ultimately flopped with Thorton and Marleau. If he is put next to Crosby or Malkin, he's hardly going to rediscover whatever black magic possessed him the one year he lit it up. He's a slower, more grossly overpaid version of TK. At 3mil a year with another year left and the cap going down, he's hardly cheap and definitely not worth whatever pieces would be required to get him.
- akane13


Is TK working for us this year? Anyway, as I said, Clutterbuck would be the main piece and Seto a throw in with a respectable history of scoring goals. That could happen again in Pitts. We'd have to trade salaries for salaries that's all. A bet.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Feb 12 @ 12:05 PM ET
Tangradi has very little value. Would have to be a throw in. Minny may consider that if you change the 3rd to a 1st. Wouldn't be willing to give up a 1st for Seto
- cap1681


Only an idiot would give up a 1st for him. Hope you'd not do it.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Feb 12 @ 12:05 PM ET
Tangradi has very little value. Would have to be a throw in. Minny may consider that if you change the 3rd to a 1st. Wouldn't be willing to give up a 1st for Seto
- cap1681

you guys have to remember that Yeo was here and he knows all about our system... so i doubt they want any of them
akane13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: raleigh
Joined: 01.24.2008

Feb 12 @ 12:06 PM ET


sorry had too, it just happens to be on the article on yahoo im reading right now..

- nh4442


even TK could find open ice on a 4-3 PP.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Feb 12 @ 12:06 PM ET
speaking of tk.. looks like he is back to practicing with neal and geno
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