our good buddy on the inside says TO wants Sutter for Kulemin



wonder where he gets this stuff from....


and im bummed bc I thought the Ott game was tonight
- nh4442

He gets it from the Toronto morons on the HF boards. Sutter ain't going for Kulemin. That would be a terrible deal for Pittsburgh.

Well I know that and you know that and everyone here knows that but I dont think he knows that


i honestly dont want kulemin bc he would play with geno not sid.. i want kuni back with geno and neal and someone for sid so dupes goes down to 3rd line mins.. give boychuk a chance with sid and someone like iggy, clowe, brown, ryan, perry etc....

They didnt give a bad effort Sunday. As Crosby said, they came out really strong and didnt get a bounce early. It changes the complextion of the game. That's why they play a 7 game series.
- Deadstar

That's the whole problem. They come out flying and if they don't score on their chances they become frustrated, take dumb penalties and get behind.

This team has a little bit of spoiled kid syndrome.

But at the end of the day they're 5-2 in their last 7 and have 8 straight winnable games on the horizon. Missing Letang and Niskanen against NJ didn't help.

Also, lets not forget we were 3-0 against the Devils in the previous 3 before this weekend outscoring them 15-5.

ok pens off again today.. cmon RS, winger for sid and a healthy letang and or nisk
- nh4442

Did someone tell you the trade deadline was this week?

Wtf?

That's the whole problem. They come out flying and if they don't score on their chances they become frustrated, take dumb penalties and get behind.

This team has a little bit of spoiled kid syndrome.

But at the end of the day they're 5-2 in their last 7 and have 8 straight winnable games on the horizon. Missing Letang and Niskanen against NJ didn't help.

Also, lets not forget we were 3-0 against the Devils in the previous 3 before this weekend outscoring them 15-5.
- canadianpenfan

You're right. I think the fatigue was starting to set in as well. They need more patience. Good point about 3-0 against the Devils until last weekend. Too many are already saying this is like 2011 while completely ignoring 2012.

Well I know that and you know that and everyone here knows that but I dont think he knows that


i honestly dont want kulemin bc he would play with geno not sid.. i want kuni back with geno and neal and someone for sid so dupes goes down to 3rd line mins.. give boychuk a chance with sid and someone like iggy, clowe, brown, ryan, perry etc....
- nh4442

So you want Dupuis moved with Boychuk? That's your answer to why Dupuis can't play there? How in any way, shape or form is Boychuk a better solution?

You're right. I think the fatigue was starting to set in as well. They need more patience. Good point about 3-0 against the Devils until last weekend. Too many are already saying this is like 2011 while completely ignoring 2012.
- Deadstar

Fatigue definitely plays a part but that's just something everyone has to overcome. If Bylsma had any balls he would start sitting Malkin and Neal down after lazy penalties, maybe that will get the message across.

Fatigue definitely plays a part but that's just something everyone has to overcome. If Bylsma had any balls he would start sitting Malkin and Neal down after lazy penalties, maybe that will get the message across.
- canadianpenfan

I've been calling for that for two years now. I like Bylsma's style, but I would like to see some accountability. Lazy penalties, lazy passes, bad giveaways. Those kind of things should warrant some punishment.

Fatigue definitely plays a part but that's just something everyone has to overcome. If Bylsma had any balls he would start sitting Malkin and Neal down after lazy penalties, maybe that will get the message across.
- canadianpenfan

I can't imagine what would be said on here after a loss where he benched 71 or 18 for any significant amount of time during a game. Even if it was warranted.

Fatigue definitely plays a part but that's just something everyone has to overcome. If Bylsma had any balls he would start sitting Malkin and Neal down after lazy penalties, maybe that will get the message across.
- canadianpenfan

Malkin is without a doubt the worst offender with Neal a close second. The difference in discipline between the Devils and Penguins in puck play and penalties was night and day.

I've been calling for that for two years now. I like Bylsma's style, but I would like to see some accountability. Lazy penalties, lazy passes, bad giveaways. Those kind of things should warrant some punishment.
- Ben37

They do just the same as most teams in the league. If your not one of the big guns you get benched. Despres hit the pine for 2 games. But if you are benching 87/71/18/58 even when well deserved you are playing with fire.

So you want Dupuis moved with Boychuk? That's your answer to why Dupuis can't play there? How in any way, shape or form is Boychuk a better solution?


- canadianpenfan

i dont want dupuis moved for boychuk but if they get a winger for sid, i think boychuk would be an improvement over dupes... boychuk isnt playing that bad, he is passing nice, he has speed, he just need to work on finishing but atleast he can hit the net... once he gets that first goal, the monkey will be off his back...if i had my way i would get two wingers for sid iggy and ryan


and for your comment earlier about the deadline.. I have read a couple reports that pens shouldnt wait until the deadline that they should pull the trigger on something earlier, with this shorten season, the next 2 weeks are must win games... now even more so that we lost 2 to the devils in 2 days...

I can't imagine what would be said on here after a loss where he benched 71 or 18 for any significant amount of time during a game. Even if it was warranted.
- dbell646

I would applaud the action personally, even if we lost. I stick up for Bylsma, I think he gets blamed when he shouldn't, but one thing I can't argue is that he doesn't discipline stars. He has no problem sitting Jeffrey down but Malkin can take 3 slashing penalties in a game after losing the puck and not miss a shift.

I think sending a message like that would be heard loud and clear in the room.

i dont want dupuis moved for boychuk but if they get a winger for sid, i think boychuk would be an improvement over dupes... boychuk isnt playing that bad, he is passing nice, he has speed, he just need to work on finishing but atleast he can hit the net... once he gets that first goal, the monkey will be off his back...if i had my way i would get two wingers for sid iggy and ryan


and for your comment earlier about the deadline.. I have read a couple reports that pens shouldnt wait until the deadline that they should pull the trigger on something earlier, with this shorten season, the next 2 weeks are must win games... now even more so that we lost 2 to the devils in 2 days...
- nh4442

Why?

They do just the same as most teams in the league. If your not one of the big guns you get benched. Despres hit the pine for 2 games. But if you are benching 87/71/18/58 even when well deserved you are playing with fire.
- dbell646

Haha someone was joking about that the other day. Why is it always the 4th line guy that gets benched or swapped out? Are his 4 minutes a game the real problem?

Why?
- canadianpenfan

i listed it already

plus i just dont want to see dupes on sids line anymore... hes a 3rd liner.. maybe he can help cooke and sutter score

They do just the same as most teams in the league. If your not one of the big guns you get benched. Despres hit the pine for 2 games. But if you are benching 87/71/18/58 even when well deserved you are playing with fire.
- dbell646

Badger Bob would have done it already.

Tangradi-Crosby-Dupuis
Kunitz-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Sutter-Kennedy
Adams-Vitale-Glass

The Devils didnt really trap until the 3rd. Deboer plays much more of an uptemp forechecking style.
- Deadstar

I agree they forecheck harder than past Devils teams, but there's no denying they fall back pretty quickly and clog the neutral zone once the puck is turned over. It can't be any secret the Pens historically have not handled that well.......and from what I've seen so far this year, they still don't.

Iggy-Crosby-Bennett
Kunitz-Malkin-Neal
Cooke-Sutter-Dupuis
Adams-Vitale-Glass
- Deadstar

fixed

Badger Bob would have done it already.
- canadianpenfan

You think he would have benched 66?

You think he would have benched 66?
- dbell646

im guessing no

You think he would have benched 66?
- dbell646

If Mario was taking selfish penalties game in and game out sure as poop he would have been benched.

fixed
- nh4442

I know you love Iggy but you better come up with a better offer than what you tossed out earlier.

Did Sid lose the first shoot out stache game of the year? Because his stache is pretty creepy.