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Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Feb 10 @ 5:44 PM ET
I wouldnt take Johansen for gagner straight up. JOhansen hasnt proved anything
- TheNugeIsHuge


Are you cereal? If the Jackets offered Johansen straight up for Gagner, it wouldn't take me 10 seconds to answer. "Done!"
Salvo
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.13.2009

Feb 10 @ 5:45 PM ET
He's also physical, feisty, solid on faceoffs, and bigger than "Sammy". Also, his highest point total is higher.
- MaximumBone


I don't know if he's streaky or what but he's not producing
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Feb 10 @ 5:46 PM ET
How about Dubinsky, and Foligno for Gagner, MPS and a 2nd. Oilers add a ton of grit to their top 6. MPS is certainly expendable and Prospal fills in for Gagner till somebody is ready
- Bieksa#3


So you mean Dubinsky, Foligno, Prospal for Gagner, MPS, and 2nd pick? I prefer to keep MPS, just based on his recent play. Work on Gagner+ for Dubinsky. Also, too much salary going on EDM books, CBJ needs to take some back. Whitney going back for sure. Prospal and Whitney both being UFA are traded at deadline or walks at season end.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Feb 10 @ 5:47 PM ET
How about Dubinsky, and Foligno for Gagner, MPS and a 2nd. Oilers add a ton of grit to their top 6. MPS is certainly expendable and Prospal fills in for Gagner till somebody is ready
- Bieksa#3

I'm not really familiar with Foligno, I'll have to give him a look tonight. It'd be tough to part with some truly young players in Gags and Maggie, but it would add a lot of grit.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Feb 10 @ 5:47 PM ET
Are you cereal? If the Jackets offered Johansen straight up for Gagner, it wouldn't take me 10 seconds to answer. "Done!"
- Maxbone


I remembered your super duper big and raving on Johansen.
Hemingways
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.25.2011

Feb 10 @ 5:48 PM ET
Dubinsky is a very good player, I think you guys are undervaluing him. He is kind of in that limbo that guys who put up more points than a typical 3rd line center get when they're not quite productive enough to really be a number 2. However, he's big, talented, and plays a key position, center, that every team has a need at. That alone has value.

But there is such a shortage of 1st and 2nd line centers that many guys are playing more minutes than they ideally are suited for. It wouldn't be a stretch to play Dubinsky as a number 2 center. Heck, Columbus had Manny Maholtra playing 1st line center minutes just a couple of years ago and he's really a 4th line center.

But if I'm Columbus and thinking of a rebuild - and not sure that's what they're planning, the Hawks played them once so far this season and they were a far better "team" than they have been in years, playing as a cohesive unit, so maybe they will wait until later in the season to get a feel if they can contend for a playoff spot or not, but if they do deal vets I would think they would want young prospects over picks. Picks are so far away from playing in the NHL (if ever), and Columbus needs to get some promising kids in there to sell tickets and keep the franchise. Otherwise we'll be looking at them in Quebec or Seattle in a few years.

I'd think the teams could match up with something like Dubinsky and a veteran (young vet d-man like Nikitin?) for a couple of young wingers (and maybe a salary dump like Whitney coming back). Which wingers? Not sure. But that could make some sense for each team.
Rseen
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 08.30.2012

Feb 10 @ 5:52 PM ET
I'm not sure if I am. Dubinsky's top season was 54pts. Hemsky? 77. Huge difference between the two. He's older than Gagner and has only three years left until UFA status, so he's equal to, if not worth less than Sammy.

I'm really not sure what the Oilers could willingly give up to make a deal work. That was the point of the blog.

- Maxbone

Can't just judge a player on stats. Dubinsky is also good defensively and physical. Is Hemsky? No.
Dean_Youngblood
Edmonton Oilers
Location: When I see someone with a Leaf, NS
Joined: 01.14.2013

Feb 10 @ 5:56 PM ET
Jenner
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Feb 10 @ 5:57 PM ET
Boinker is this your alt account?
- Bieksa#3


I like Johansen...... I don't quite compute.
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Feb 10 @ 5:58 PM ET
Dubinsky would be a solid pick up for you guys. I think it would take more than MPS and a pick though.
spitfire187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: 120mice, 30Rats, 8baby bunnys, 3 large rabbits and 2chickens, AB
Joined: 08.09.2009

Feb 10 @ 6:17 PM ET
Turn it on just in time for a 5 on 3... Nice.
spitfire187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: 120mice, 30Rats, 8baby bunnys, 3 large rabbits and 2chickens, AB
Joined: 08.09.2009

Feb 10 @ 6:19 PM ET
(frank) those bj jerseys are ugly. Also
Salvo
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.13.2009

Feb 10 @ 6:19 PM ET
Turn it on just in time for a 5 on 3... Nice.
- spitfire187


Beautiful save by Dubnyk before the penalties - goaltending is aiight.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Feb 10 @ 6:20 PM ET
Turn it on just in time for a 5 on 3... Nice.
- spitfire187


I begin to wonder is EDM the most penalized team this season so far...wouldn't be surprised if EDM was the most outshot team.
Muskoka88
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.14.2012

Feb 10 @ 6:21 PM ET
How can the Oilers suck so bad with all that talent?? absolutely sickening!!!
al3535
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.06.2009

Feb 10 @ 6:21 PM ET
I think they need a few more penalties to get off to a better start
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 10 @ 6:21 PM ET
Does anything even matter?
- laughs2907




Why is there anything?



al3535
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.06.2009

Feb 10 @ 6:23 PM ET
Turn it on just in time for a 5 on 3... Nice.
- spitfire187

HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 6:28 PM ET
impressive PP
Sammy Van Hagar
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Langley, BC
Joined: 07.12.2009

Feb 10 @ 6:28 PM ET
To Columbus : Sam Gagner, Magnus Paajarvi, & Oiler's 1st Rounder in 2013

and

To Edmonton : Ryan Johansen & Brandon Dubinsky
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Feb 10 @ 6:28 PM ET
Great to see that the boys are still "too good" to dump & chase on the PP... (frank)ing (frank)!
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Feb 10 @ 6:29 PM ET
impressive PP
- hugefemale dog77



Is anyone still buying the myth of our "lethal powerplay"?
spitfire187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: 120mice, 30Rats, 8baby bunnys, 3 large rabbits and 2chickens, AB
Joined: 08.09.2009

Feb 10 @ 6:30 PM ET
Nice
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Feb 10 @ 6:30 PM ET
There we go.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Feb 10 @ 6:31 PM ET
Nuge has looked awful. Hemsky got a lucky break there. Good for him!
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