seriously, is there a trade or what?
- ISLES1119

No.

Ya think? I know the guy is on the islanders but Tavares is no secret.
- Cptmjl

He's an Islander... he must suck!!!

I agree with the aspect that the Islanders dominated the game. The bigger problem is not necessarily the breakdowns that occured as a lack of coaching but rather once again we're exposed as a perimeter team. We can pepper all the shots we want but when it comes to having players who can win battles in the dirty area we fail miserably. This is why we can outshoot a team 43-15 and still lose. That problem becomes magnified against better, bigger and stronger teams like Philly, Boston, Pittsburgh etc. Simple fixes can eliminate the defensive breakdowns but any fix for our lack of strength in high percentage areas have to come from outside the Islanders club. That's a BIG problem for a team that can't score free agent and still has limited resources to make a deal that won't hurt the long term prospects of the franchise.
- keaner17

This is where guys like Nino, Nelson, and Lee if he signs can hopefully give us the size and skill. Same for guys like Reinhart, Pedan, and Mayfield. The problem is even if the Isles want to spend more this offseason the UFA market for Defense is very weak. Isles will need to use trades. You figure most of the forward spots will go to Strome, Nino and Nelson. I'd be very happy if we can add a top 4 dman and top 6 this offseason and use the prospects. I just wish we could enjoy the current team for once and not always look down the road.

No.
- eichiefs9

You would think teams are going to look to trade earlier with the short season. Many teams are probably not there yet though. Regarding the Isles/Oilers I'm not sure there is a fit there. You figure the Isles have to be trying to do something. Even though Snow does not seem to get pressure from Wang does Snow really want the team out of things soo soon again? Snow has to look at things like Wang may not be owner much longer and Snow has to show something.

You would think teams are going to look to trade earlier with the short season. Many teams are probably not there yet though. Regarding the Isles/Oilers I'm not sure there is a fit there. You figure the Isles have to be trying to do something. Even though Snow does not seem to get pressure from Wang does Snow really want the team out of things soo soon again? Snow has to look at things like Wang may not be owner much longer and Snow has to show something.
- ses111

Snow has no budget. That's why he took on the fake Thomas money. It does give him flexibility but can he even raise this payroll ? It sucks. The isles are completely toast in this division. It's probaly already over but for once I'd like to see the isles show some urgency and try to turn things around.

Snow has no budget. That's why he took on the fake Thomas money. It does give him flexibility but can he even raise this payroll ? It sucks. The isles are completely toast in this division. It's probaly already over but for once I'd like to see the isles show some urgency and try to turn things around.
- Isles316

It does not look good at all. Everything is pointing to another lost season. It's too bad for Snow because he loses out in the end. Wang will be fine and it will not be Wang who may need to hook up with another team for a job. It's lousy for fans but fans can stop going to the game and stop watching. We do not have to work for Wang or try to get another job with a new team.

Watching the NJD-PITT and NYR-TAM games. Amazing how well coached and how disciplined all these teams are playing in their own end. Isles are short on manpower and coaching is second rate. They have to depend on their goalie playing over his head to win a game.

It does not look good at all. Everything is pointing to another lost season. It's too bad for Snow because he loses out in the end. Wang will be fine and it will not be Wang who may need to hook up with another team for a job. It's lousy for fans but fans can stop going to the game and stop watching. We do not have to work for Wang or try to get another job with a new team.
- ses111

I'm not a giant Garth snow fan but I think it's completely fair to say he has no chance here with this budget. It actually could be much worse. Having said that, a winning NHL coach might be exactly what this team needs. Terry Murray is out there. He was giant in the progression of the Kings to cup winners.

Also in fairness, the team has played a brutal schedule so far and could have won or gotten points in 3 of the last 4 games. Hedberg stole the game vs the devils . They played even with Pittsburgh and that mainly came down to goaltending, they were awful vs the rangers and were pretty good last night.

It comes down to not doing enough in the tough areas to win games. Nabokov included so far this year.

Watching the NJD-PITT and NYR-TAM games. Amazing how well coached and how disciplined all these teams are playing in their own end. Isles are short on manpower and coaching is second rate. They have to depend on their goalie playing over his head to win a game.
- Fan101

Terry Murray. Maybe if we all say it, it will happen.

You can have Ruff after this season.

I didn't say they played a great game... I said they outplayed the Sabres...

They outskated, outshot them, outplayed them!!!

We all know the issues with this team!!!

Again... please try and keep up!!!

Or spin it again...
- jimmc7722

Yes, Yes, and No they did not. If you thought the Islanders had more legitimate scoring chances then the Sabres you're being a homer, shocker. Again, why are you only replying to my posts and not the other posters who all agree with what I'm saying? Strange? Whatever, we all know you are always right so I'll guess we can move on now. Must be tough for you being right all the time? Hard to live up to that I'd guess?

Don't let Negative Nelly see this... or he will have you banned!!!
- jimmc7722

Is that me? I'm having people banned now? Awesome, didn't know i had that power???

I'm not a giant Garth snow fan but I think it's completely fair to say he has no chance here with this budget. It actually could be much worse. Having said that, a winning NHL coach might be exactly what this team needs. Terry Murray is out there. He was giant in the progression of the Kings to cup winners.

Also in fairness, the team has played a brutal schedule so far and could have won or gotten points in 3 of the last 4 games. Hedberg stole the game vs the devils . They played even with Pittsburgh and that mainly came down to goaltending, they were awful vs the rangers and were pretty good last night.

It comes down to not doing enough in the tough areas to win games. Nabokov included so far this year.
- Isles316

You can't keep blaming losses on hot goalies like Hedberg. lol. I've heard more excuses on this board most of which are absurd. I'm a fan but seriously accept this team for what it is. The problem with this team is it's holes and the number of them. You can't fill holes with waiver wire pick ups and career AHL'ers. If it were that easy every team would be doing it. If you're going to spend money then spend it on one legit NHL'er and don't sign these guys that there is a reason they aren't in the NHL. It's not rocket science. Usual trying to reinvent the wheel.

I'm not a giant Garth snow fan but I think it's completely fair to say he has no chance here with this budget. It actually could be much worse. Having said that, a winning NHL coach might be exactly what this team needs. Terry Murray is out there. He was giant in the progression of the Kings to cup winners.

Also in fairness, the team has played a brutal schedule so far and could have won or gotten points in 3 of the last 4 games. Hedberg stole the game vs the devils . They played even with Pittsburgh and that mainly came down to goaltending, they were awful vs the rangers and were pretty good last night.

It comes down to not doing enough in the tough areas to win games. Nabokov included so far this year.
- Isles316

No question it is very hard with this payroll but it's not impossible. The things I would like to know are is Garth just going along to whatever Charles is saying without question? Will Charles allow Garth to hire a proven coach and Garth does not want the coach to upstage him? It's too easy to just blame Wang and give Garth a pass. As long as Garth wants to remain GM he needs to find a way and if Wang will not let him do anything he can step down. The team has to find a way to get it done regardless of the schedule and when the team does not screen the goalie and crash the net these goalies will look real good. The bottom line is the Isles are losing these games even if they are getting a lot of shots or are unlucky or for whatever reason.

Yes, Yes, and No they did not. If you thought the Islanders had more legitimate scoring chances then the Sabres you're being a homer, shocker. Again, why are you only replying to my posts and not the other posters who all agree with what I'm saying? Strange? Whatever, we all know you are always right so I'll guess we can move on now. Must be tough for you being right all the time? Hard to live up to that I'd guess?
- Cptmjl

You don't know hockey do you?

You can't keep blaming losses on hot goalies like Hedberg. lol. I've heard more excuses on this board most of which are absurd. I'm a fan but seriously accept this team for what it is. The problem with this team is it's holes and the number of them. You can't fill holes with waiver wire pick ups and career AHL'ers. If it were that easy every team would be doing it. If you're going to spend money then spend it on one legit NHL'er and don't sign these guys that there is a reason they aren't in the NHL. It's not rocket science. Usual trying to reinvent the wheel.
- Cptmjl

I agree with you on this team having holes. But it is fact that 3 or 4 of the top 10 teams in the league are in the isles division. So yes, you can't field a roster via the waiver wire and expect to win. It's embarrassing. But it isn't ridiculous to say the isles played with the devils and Pittsburgh pretty even this season. What do they lack? Talent, and a defensive identity.

No question it is very hard with this payroll but it's not impossible. The things I would like to know are is Garth just going along to whatever Charles is saying without question? Will Charles allow Garth to hire a proven coach and Garth does not want the coach to upstage him? It's too easy to just blame Wang and give Garth a pass. As long as Garth wants to remain GM he needs to find a way and if Wang will not let him do anything he can step down. The team has to find a way to get it done regardless of the schedule and when the team does not screen the goalie and crash the net these goalies will look real good. The bottom line is the Isles are losing these games even if they are getting a lot of shots or are unlucky or for whatever reason.
- ses111

You're right. I'm not giving snow a pass. As you said, what is snows budget? Does he stick up to Wang at all about whqt he needs? These are questions we don't know the answer too. But you're right, they are on their way to a 6th straight bottom 5 finish and with what to show for it? How good will niño, strome or reinhardt be? will Brock nelson, anders lee,mayfield, kabonov, de Hann, Donovan, pedan ever be good NHL players? Nilsson, Poulin? That's 12 prospects that all could be good NHL players. But how long will that take ?

I don't think it's as bad as it looks but the isles unwillingness to make any changes or any shakeup trades to show they care about winning makes me wonder if it will ever together.

It does not look good at all. Everything is pointing to another lost season. It's too bad for Snow because he loses out in the end. Wang will be fine and it will not be Wang who may need to hook up with another team for a job. It's lousy for fans but fans can stop going to the game and stop watching. We do not have to work for Wang or try to get another job with a new team.
- ses111

were you expecting something different?

I hate Wang and Snow and always will. They're the worst management team in the history of sports and are an absolute joke.

Everytime Reasoner hits the ice, God kills a kitten.

Yes, Yes, and No they did not. If you thought the Islanders had more legitimate scoring chances then the Sabres you're being a homer, shocker. Again, why are you only replying to my posts and not the other posters who all agree with what I'm saying? Strange? Whatever, we all know you are always right so I'll guess we can move on now. Must be tough for you being right all the time? Hard to live up to that I'd guess?
- Cptmjl

really?

I thought the Isles played well, just didn't get the bounces to go their way. Tavares playing posts, Nabby wasn't too sharp (DP should get the next start), and Miller is gay.

Doesn't Visnovsky have higher pt totals as a Dman than Gagner has as a forward?
- Cptmjl

most likely but long term Gagner is more valuable. Sam is still young, he'll be a solid second line center his entire career.

You're right. I'm not giving snow a pass. As you said, what is snows budget? Does he stick up to Wang at all about whqt he needs? These are questions we don't know the answer too. But you're right, they are on their way to a 6th straight bottom 5 finish and with what to show for it? How good will niño, strome or reinhardt be? will Brock nelson, anders lee,mayfield, kabonov, de Hann, Donovan, pedan ever be good NHL players? Nilsson, Poulin? That's 12 prospects that all could be good NHL players. But how long will that take ?

I don't think it's as bad as it looks but the isles unwillingness to make any changes or any shakeup trades to show they care about winning makes me wonder if it will ever together.
- Isles316

I think everyone knows what he sticks into Wang....

You're right. I'm not giving snow a pass. As you said, what is snows budget? Does he stick up to Wang at all about whqt he needs? These are questions we don't know the answer too. But you're right, they are on their way to a 6th straight bottom 5 finish and with what to show for it? How good will niño, strome or reinhardt be? will Brock nelson, anders lee,mayfield, kabonov, de Hann, Donovan, pedan ever be good NHL players? Nilsson, Poulin? That's 12 prospects that all could be good NHL players. But how long will that take ?

I don't think it's as bad as it looks but the isles unwillingness to make any changes or any shakeup trades to show they care about winning makes me wonder if it will ever together.
- Isles316

I find it hard to believe if Snow went to Wang and said he needed to hire this coach or spend a little more on payroll for this player that Wang would say no. Maybe Wang would say no I just hope Garth at least would try to convince Wang and not just sit there and not question anything. I have no problem with the Isles not having a huge payroll. With that building I probably would not have one either. It's like you wrote "the isles unwillingness to make any changes or any shakeup trades to show they care about winning makes me wonder if it will ever together" It burns me to see my team lie down and not do more to improve. Make an honest effort and do the best you can to improve and that's all the fans can ask for.

were you expecting something different?

I hate Wang and Snow and always will. They're the worst management team in the history of sports and are an absolute joke.

Everytime Reasoner hits the ice, God kills a kitten.
- Mr.Black

Sadly no. I said before the season no way they make the playoffs. I'd really love to be wrong.

I find it hard to believe if Snow went to Wang and said he needed to hire this coach or spend a little more on payroll for this player that Wang would say no. Maybe Wang would say no I just hope Garth at least would try to convince Wang and not just sit there and not question anything. I have no problem with the Isles not having a huge payroll. With that building I probably would not have one either. It's like you wrote "the isles unwillingness to make any changes or any shakeup trades to show they care about winning makes me wonder if it will ever together" It burns me to see my team lie down and not do more to improve. Make an honest effort and do the best you can to improve and that's all the fans can ask for.
- ses111

They are 3 points out of a playoff spot. Not exactly 100 but a loss tomorrow and then upcoming games vs NYR and the devils, this team could be 7 or 8 a week from tonight and the season is truly over. A bad loss tomorrow with no changes before Thursday nights game will answer our question for this year. It's not good to panic prematurely but it's getting to that point.

Even so, when they fired Gordon, I was very against keeping capuano as head coach. I got used to him, he seems like a good guy so I got over it but now enough is enough. We have watched the same team now for three seasons. If anything they have regressed. At least under Gordon they were good at home. This team is 6 games under .500 at home between this year and last year. That's horrendous.

Sadly no. I said before the season no way they make the playoffs. I'd really love to be wrong.
- ses111

I went through their schedule with a friend and came up with 9 wins. He is unbiased and said 17. Neither very good.