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JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Feb 10 @ 12:53 PM ET
Canuck fans that love one of their own players and saying one of their players should be nominateed for an award is the reason we are hated

If that is true ,then other fans are idiots ,and we shouldn't worry what they think.

What about Oiler fans saying after 10 games Yak or Schultz for Calder?
What about Leaf fans saying Phaneuf is top 3 in the league.
What about NYR or LA saying their goalie is the best in the league and they are out of the playoffs as of today?

- VANTEL


Schultz probably WILL win the Calder.
Yakupov is all hype and I agree that it's early to put him in that category.
Leafs fans are nuts if they say that.
NYR and LA goaltenders are two of the 5 best in the league, depends on the week if they're 1-2 or 4-5.
Bieksa is a great player, mentioning him in a Norris category....priceless.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 10 @ 12:54 PM ET
Definitely not a sucker punch, check out the thread a few pages ago for the full moving picture thingy.

As for Grabo biting or not biting Pacioretty, its difficult to tell, especially given that Pacioretty grabbed Grabo from behind by his molars. Looking at the video the only thing you can say for sure is that Grabo's mouth and nose are covered by Max, so he deserved to get at least a punch in the face


- lumlums

I was watching the game. Sucker punch, clear as day.
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Feb 10 @ 12:56 PM ET
I can't believe the oilers took hall over Seguin.

They'd be so much better off with Seguin.

- Scooby_Doo


That was a total win win if I've ever seen one. Put Hall with Bergeron, Lucic, Krejci, and a mature Cup-contending team. Put Seguin with a bunch of kids, Horcoff for a captain, and shotty defense and goaltending. Those two picks were great for both clubs and would have been if it were reversed. It's hardly a horrible failure like, say, Linden ahead of Modano.
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

Feb 10 @ 1:00 PM ET
Think before you write. You wouldn't want to use up one of your 5 daily brain cells unnessicarily
- VANTEL


posts like THIS are more the reason for the annoyance with Canucks fans...not your stats that you point out well in your other post. ALL fans should be homers, they're fans. Fans is short for fanatics. Personal digs and cockiness is not in any way shape or form constructive for your team or yourself
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 10 @ 1:00 PM ET
Schultz probably WILL win the Calder.
Yakupov is all hype and I agree that it's early to put him in that category.
Leafs fans are nuts if they say that.
NYR and LA goaltenders are two of the 5 best in the league, depends on the week if they're 1-2 or 4-5.
Bieksa is a great player, mentioning him in a Norris category....priceless.

- JLO961



There is a rookie in Toronto who has potted a couple of game winners and is actually helping his team make the playoffs . He might have something to say about a Calder.
Brunner also making a case for it.

LA made the playoffs in the last week of the season. They caught lightning in a bottle. They had a great playoff run and with that Quick got annointed the best goalie on the planet.

Bieksa is a top 20 D. He is not a norris contender but any team would benifit by having him. He brings what every team need.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 10 @ 1:01 PM ET
posts like THIS are more the reason for the annoyance with Canucks fans...not your stats that you point out well in your other post. ALL fans should be homers, they're fans. Fans is short for fanatics. Personal digs and cockiness is not in any way shape or form constructive for your team or yourself
- JLO961



But his troll post is fine.

Great you hate us . So leave .
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Feb 10 @ 1:01 PM ET
Oilers always draft the sexy name instead of need. Eberle will be the only great pick they made .
- VANTEL

bold prediction. It's tough to be praised for a 1st overall selection. You can screw it up, but no one ever calls a 1st overall selection a "great pick". So you've kind of stacked the deck against the oil. But if you mean that Hall, Nuge or Yaks won't be great players, it's too early to tell imo.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 10 @ 1:05 PM ET
Yeah, he's a saint. Saints always get busted for diving, then female dog and whine about it on post-game interviews. He's a douche and a total embarrassment to the NHL.
- prock

I like his hair-pulling, his eye-gouging, and his biting. He brings everything to the table every night unlike that little powder-puff Kessel and tranny boyfriend Neon Dion.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 10 @ 1:08 PM ET
bold prediction. It's tough to be praised for a 1st overall selection. You can screw it up, but no one ever calls a 1st overall selection a "great pick". So you've kind of stacked the deck against the oil. But if you mean that Hall, Nuge or Yaks won't be great players, it's too early to tell imo.
- Morris



Nudge is a small body . He has some great moves but now teams are on to him.
Most teams know put your checking shut down line on Oilers first line.

Eberle is a superstar. End of story.

Hall is overrated. He is not a Lucic Nash type powerforward. He will be a decent second liner.

Yak ,no comment yet . Not enough of a body of work to pass judgement. He looks good.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Feb 10 @ 1:10 PM ET
I like his hair-pulling, his eye-gouging, and his biting. He brings everything to the table every night unlike that little powder-puff Kessel and tranny boyfriend Neon Dion.
- Marwood


That's your prerogative. If you like it, that's great for you. But it's insane to wonder why people don't like him.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Feb 10 @ 1:12 PM ET
Nudge is a small body . He has some great moves but now teams are on to him.
Most teams know put your checking shut down line on Oilers first line.

Eberle is a superstar. End of story.

Hall is overrated. He is not a Lucic Nash type powerforward. He will be a decent second liner.

Yak ,no comment yet . Not enough of a body of work to pass judgement. He looks good.

- VANTEL

Nuge IS a small body. Doesn't mean he'll stay that way.

I'm not sure I get you. On one hand, you're criticizing other fans for calling you a troll, while on the other you simultaneously admonish the Oilers for not mixing up the lines and Hall for getting moved to a different line.

There's a bit of a cognitive dissonance there. And it seems willful. I assume you're just having fun trolling, but let's call a spade a spade here.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Feb 10 @ 1:14 PM ET
I was watching the game. Sucker punch, clear as day.
- Marwood



He put him in a headlock from behind, while he was tied up with another player, turned and clocked him. If that's a sucker punch, I love sucker punches. They got what they deserved. They were playing like cheap pansies all night. It was about the fourth time they double teamed a guy, sent Prust after Grabovski. They were getting embarrassed on the scoreboard, tried to play dirty, and then got beat at that too.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 10 @ 1:18 PM ET
He put him in a headlock from behind, while he was tied up with another player, turned and clocked him. If that's a sucker punch, I love sucker punches. They got what they deserved. They were playing like cheap pansies all night. It was about the fourth time they double teamed a guy, sent Prust after Grabovski. They were getting embarrassed on the scoreboard, tried to play dirty, and then got beat at that too.
- prock

It was a sucker punch but I hate both of those teams so I'm not going to start foaming at the mouth arguing it.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 10 @ 1:19 PM ET
Nuge IS a small body. Doesn't mean he'll stay that way.

I'm not sure I get you. On one hand, you're criticizing other fans for calling you a troll, while on the other you simultaneously admonish the Oilers for not mixing up the lines and Hall for getting moved to a different line.

There's a bit of a cognitive dissonance there. And it seems willful. I assume you're just having fun trolling, but let's call a spade a spade here.

- Morris



I am not trolling. This is a Canuck blog . If I was in Oilers blog every day and insulting your team like Boldirev and Prock do then that is trolling.

I have my opinion of the Oilers ,and as much as you disagree ,statistics are in my favour ,seeing it looks like your team is not playoff bound again .

I am not in Clout's blog stirring poop . I said a couple of weeks ago Hall was overrated and today he is demoted.Sugar coat it any way you want. He is not scoring enough or being a big body charging the net. He is being outplayed by a rookie who is taking his spot.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Feb 10 @ 1:20 PM ET
It was a sucker punch but I hate both of those teams so I'm not going to start foaming at the mouth arguing it.
- Marwood

I hate that, when one says "I'm right, but let's stop arguing about it, and if you keep arguing about it, it means you're immature."
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Feb 10 @ 1:23 PM ET
That was a total win win if I've ever seen one. Put Hall with Bergeron, Lucic, Krejci, and a mature Cup-contending team. Put Seguin with a bunch of kids, Horcoff for a captain, and shotty defense and goaltending. Those two picks were great for both clubs and would have been if it were reversed. It's hardly a horrible failure like, say, Linden ahead of Modano.
- JLO961


Seguin is bigger and better. Oilers took the small soft player, which they already had a boatload of.

You think Linden was a bad pick? he's mr Canuck... Poor argument pal.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Feb 10 @ 1:27 PM ET
I am not trolling. This is a Canuck blog . If I was in Oilers blog every day and insulting your team like Boldirev and Prock do then that is trolling.

I have my opinion of the Oilers ,and as much as you disagree ,statistics are in my favour ,seeing it looks like your team is not playoff bound again .

I am not in Clout's blog stirring poop . I said a couple of weeks ago Hall was overrated and today he is demoted.Sugar coat it any way you want. He is not scoring enough or being a big body charging the net.

- VANTEL

From my perspective, I could give a rat's ass what blog you're posting in, but if you're taking every little development and spinning in the most negative way possible, it's trolling - no matter whose blog it is. Agree to disagree though. Maybe I'll just remember not to expect balanced hockey talk here and hike it out of the thread.

Statistics? Just because the team isn't doing well, doesn't mean your scouting evaluations are infallible. That's bonkers. Really? every negative criticism of a team is valid if they aren't doing as well as the criticizer's favourite team?

I really don't see it as a demotion. Honestly: Why is Kassian on your top line? because he's the 3rd best forward, or because he's a good fit with the Sedins? The 2nd line has looked discombobulated since the beginning of the year, and Hall can provide some stability to it. Besides, top 6 -bottom 6 is a far more important distinction than top line-2nd line.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Feb 10 @ 1:30 PM ET
From my perspective, I could give a rat's ass what blog you're posting in, but if you're taking every little development and spinning in the most negative way possible, it's trolling - no matter whose blog it is. Agree to disagree though. Maybe I'll just remember not to expect balanced hockey talk here and hike it out of the thread.

Statistics? Just because the team isn't doing well, doesn't mean your scouting evaluations are infallible. That's bonkers. Really? every negative criticism of a team is valid if they aren't doing as well as the criticizer's favourite team?

I really don't see it as a demotion. Honestly: Why is Kassian on your top line? because he's the 3rd best forward, or because he's a good fit with the Sedins? The 2nd line has looked discombobulated since the beginning of the year, and Hall can provide some stability to it. Besides, top 6 -bottom 6 is a far more important distinction than top line-2nd line.

- Morris


Wait.....Are you saying you want Luongo?
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Feb 10 @ 1:30 PM ET
Seguin is bigger and better. Oilers took the small soft player, which they already had a boatload of.

You think Linden was a bad pick? he's mr Canuck... Poor argument pal.

- Scooby_Doo

Taylor Hall is bigger than Tyler Seguin. I don't know in what universe Taylor Hall is soft.
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Feb 10 @ 1:30 PM ET
Nuge IS a small body. Doesn't mean he'll stay that way.

I'm not sure I get you. On one hand, you're criticizing other fans for calling you a troll, while on the other you simultaneously admonish the Oilers for not mixing up the lines and Hall for getting moved to a different line.

There's a bit of a cognitive dissonance there. And it seems willful. I assume you're just having fun trolling, but let's call a spade a spade here.

- Morris


The Oilers need several things in order to be more than a playoff bubble team (which they are at this point), they've graduated from being a bottom-feeder, and they have some excellent parts. The problem is that there are a LOT of holes in the lineup and the kids have plenty of flaws which will make it hard for them to excel unless Tambellini beefs up the lineup with solid and cheap veteran players who can teach the kids how to not only excel, but deal with the crap that goes on in a season. It's too bad Fedorov/Larionov retired and aren't in North America, hiring one of those guys as a consultant would benefit Nail tremendously since they were the best Russians to play in the NHL. I'd also say hire Bure... but Bure was a selfish goal suck and partier and you don't need Nail to learn those bad habits.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Feb 10 @ 1:30 PM ET
Wait.....Are you saying you want Luongo?
- pker2theend

we'll never get Luongo...way too much of a bidding war
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Feb 10 @ 1:33 PM ET
The Oilers need several things in order to be more than a playoff bubble team (which they are at this point), they've graduated from being a bottom-feeder, and they have some excellent parts. The problem is that there are a LOT of holes in the lineup and the kids have plenty of flaws which will make it hard for them to excel unless Tambellini beefs up the lineup with solid and cheap veteran players who can teach the kids how to not only excel, but deal with the crap that goes on in a season. It's too bad Fedorov/Larionov retired and aren't in North America, hiring one of those guys as a consultant would benefit Nail tremendously since they were the best Russians to play in the NHL. I'd also say hire Bure... but Bure was a selfish goal suck and partier and you don't need Nail to learn those bad habits.
- DariusKnight

Yeah it's like even seeing glimpses of the Oilers succeed just points out how many areas the team needs to improve.

I agree with the veteran leadership comment, and I think Tambs is unfortunately stuck in a chicken and egg situation: useful vets want to finish their careers on cup contenders, so the Oilers need to prove they can win. But the Oilers need veteran leadership to help themselves become competitive in the first place. I think he may need to pull the trigger and overpay on a choice FA or two.
hertzman
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.18.2006

Feb 10 @ 1:34 PM ET
Taylor Hall is bigger than Tyler Seguin. I don't know in what universe Taylor Hall is soft.
- Morris


When it comes to women.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 10 @ 1:34 PM ET
From my perspective, I could give a rat's ass what blog you're posting in, but if you're taking every little development and spinning in the most negative way possible, it's trolling - no matter whose blog it is. Agree to disagree though. Maybe I'll just remember not to expect balanced hockey talk here and hike it out of the thread.

Statistics? Just because the team isn't doing well, doesn't mean your scouting evaluations are infallible. That's bonkers. Really? every negative criticism of a team is valid if they aren't doing as well as the criticizer's favourite team?

I really don't see it as a demotion. Honestly: Why is Kassian on your top line? because he's the 3rd best forward, or because he's a good fit with the Sedins? The 2nd line has looked discombobulated since the beginning of the year, and Hall can provide some stability to it. Besides, top 6 -bottom 6 is a far more important distinction than top line-2nd line.

- Morris



Get a grip will you. I don't care enough about your team to spend a full day talking about them. They are not worth the effort.

I laughed at your team because two of the teams top picks are not doing so well. Have you ever seen a TSN blog after a game . Hundreds get on their and take shots at each other. We keep hearing about this great Oiler team and it has more holes than Swiss cheese. Hall demoted go read twitter and argue with Edmontons sports writers instead . Go tell them how great Hall is.
hertzman
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.18.2006

Feb 10 @ 1:34 PM ET
Would have been another shutout last night if Edler didn't break his stick.
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