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sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Feb 10 @ 11:04 AM ET
honestly? thats my guess.
- Dozzer

Oh rly? I actually dont think any games. I was just bugging burn.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 10 @ 11:04 AM ET
can anyone stop this MONSTER

sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Feb 10 @ 11:05 AM ET
can anyone stop this MONSTER


- Zezel

Actually....kind of a creepy scene there...
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 10 @ 11:05 AM ET
Hey burn, he'll probably get a game.
- sanfordnson



He shouldn't.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Feb 10 @ 11:05 AM ET
Yeah...I
some wins..or even one, would brighten my outlook. Id settle for some 5 on 5 goals even.

- sanfordnson

The fact that almost all of J Schultz, NHP, Hall, Eberle and Hartikainen's points in the AHL came on the PP was a bit worrisome.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 10 @ 11:06 AM ET
bite marks burn

there would be a difference between the marks from just pressing an arm into someone's teeth and the marks that come from a bite.

video isnt the be all end all. leaf fans should be aware of this.

- Dozzer



Video evidence..... that is all. I'm sure if there is a mark, they'd know exactly who left it?
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 10 @ 11:06 AM ET
Actually....kind of a creepy scene there...
- sanfordnson


he's got some cheapie placemats and a paper plate, that knife looks bad too, this must have been before he got married
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 10 @ 11:07 AM ET
can anyone stop this MONSTER


- Zezel


More to the point, what kind of sane man has net curtains?!?!?
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Feb 10 @ 11:07 AM ET
You are aware if you stick your arm in a person's mouth you will get teeth marks, right? Add to it during a battle when someone is grabbing you from the front and one from behind. Why it is that he is trying to strangle a player? Should he not be in control of his actions?
- LeafMan


the marks that come from pressing your arm into someone's teeth would look nothing like the marks that result of a bite LM

thats just fact.

any medical examiner could probably give you a long list of the differences.

the second part of your post is nothing more than deflecting blame. pax's actions aside..(league should review his actions as the third man in, which is also suspension worthy) he isnt the one who actually made grabo's jaw clench down.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 10 @ 11:08 AM ET
More to the point, what kind of sane man has net curtains?!?!?
- lumlums


grabbo is clearly a ticking time bomb of insanity
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Feb 10 @ 11:08 AM ET
Video evidence..... that is all. I'm sure if there is a mark, they'd know exactly who left it?
- burn


sorry burn, this isnt a goal judge call. there is more than just video evidence to be reviewed

refs report and medical examiner reports being two major ones that will be considered

Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Feb 10 @ 11:08 AM ET
More to the point, what kind of sane man has net curtains?!?!?
- lumlums

A man who has nothing to hide.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 11:09 AM ET
Video evidence..... that is all. I'm sure if there is a mark, they'd know exactly who left it?
- burn

This Shannahan, Grabo will get a game, Shannaban out of all players should know what happens in the heat of battle when someone is trying to choke hold you, but again this is the Leafs and the NHL will make an issue out of it, you know it and I know it.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 10 @ 11:09 AM ET
He shouldn't.
- burn




If he does it cause of an anti-leafs biased and nothing to do with biting.



Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 10 @ 11:09 AM ET
the really scary part is before he started carving that pineapple he said I shall call you Patches
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 10 @ 11:09 AM ET
A man who has nothing to hide.
- AdamFrench


Unless its from his neighbours
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Feb 10 @ 11:10 AM ET
The fact that almost all of J Schultz, NHP, Hall, Eberle and Hartikainen's points in the AHL came on the PP was a bit worrisome.
- AdamFrench

That actually true? Never looked it up. Pretty sure they just kinda scored at will. Hall, Ebs and Nuge draw penalties lots cuz dey fast n slick.

We need some size, grit and TRUCULENCE on our top 6.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 10 @ 11:10 AM ET
Video evidence..... that is all. I'm sure if there is a mark, they'd know exactly who left it?
- burn




He prolly bites himself after the game.



I would after that one.


Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Feb 10 @ 11:11 AM ET
This Shannahan, Grabo will get a game, Shannaban out of all players should know what happens in the heat of battle when someone is trying to choke hold you, but again this is the Leafs and the NHL will make an issue out of it, you know it and I know it.
- LeafMan


LM he bit him.. we can talk about evidence all we want but we all know it.

he deserves a suspension and it will have nothing to do with the jersey he wears.

there is no place for biting in hockey. period.

LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Feb 10 @ 11:11 AM ET
the marks that come from pressing your arm into someone's teeth would look nothing like the marks that result of a bite LM

thats just fact.

any medical examiner could probably give you a long list of the differences.

the second part of your post is nothing more than deflecting blame. pax's actions aside..(league should review his actions as the third man in, which is also suspension worthy) he isnt the one who actually made grabo's jaw clench down.

- Dozzer

Since when is this a time to call in a medical examiner? Should we call in the RCMP too? You don't go choke holding someone around the nose and mouth, give them a game each, case closed then.
Compeyson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: That one place, NV
Joined: 06.28.2011

Feb 10 @ 11:11 AM ET
none of which actually has a bearing on grabovski actually biting down

scrums like this happen all the time without the biting

and again, there is more than just video replay to be considered here.

if the refs reported it as a bite in their post game summary that gets submitted to the NHL, and it was confirmed by nhl medical staff as a bite wound, than grabo could be punished based on that.

there is no place for biting, not even in dirty scrums. i love grabo, but if its determined he bit a player he should serve a suspension. no place for that kind of crap in hockey.

also, take a look at the replay, yes he was involved in a scrum but his hand was clearly free.. he didnt need to bite at all.

- Dozzer


You're only looking at this in a negative light. What if Grabo's natural reaction was to close his mouth so Pax didn't cave his teeth in? What if Grabo couldn't breath because of the fact that Pax literally looks like hes trying to choke him?

If the league suspends Grabo for "biting," then Pax needs to get a suspension for the wrestling move he was trying to pull off there. It goes both ways.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Feb 10 @ 11:12 AM ET
If he does it cause of an anti-leafs biased and nothing to do with biting.
- robin_steele264


you know damn well leaf fans will make that argument

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Feb 10 @ 11:12 AM ET
sorry burn, this isnt a goal judge call. there is more than just video evidence to be reviewed

refs report and medical examiner reports being two major ones that will be considered

- Dozzer



OK... If you say so. Video is only concrete evidence, and it's not conclusive. End of story.

Like I said, if there is a mark are they going to take dental impressions to prove it was Grabo?
sanfordnson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BiggButtz
Joined: 03.11.2010

Feb 10 @ 11:13 AM ET
He prolly bites himself after the game.



I would after that one.

- robin_steele264

I bite myself after Oilers games a lot. To distract myself from how hard Ive been facepalming all game.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Feb 10 @ 11:13 AM ET
Since when is this a time to call in a medical examiner? Should we call in the RCMP too? You don't go choke holding someone around the nose and mouth, give them a game each, case closed then.
- LeafMan


the NHL has doctors at every game right?

they would fit the bill of a medical examiner

and they wouldnt be doing their job unless they went and looked at it.

take a step back and think about it without leaf fan bias.
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