trying to get the puck..
- wingz4life

Why you said was that you wanted to reverse the Schenn for JVR trade. Still stand by that?
- Leeman4Gilmour

And you say it as if van Riemsdyk is some kind of superstar. Big surprise he followed a good game with another disappearing act.

You can either have a defensive defender (not like the Leafs need help playing defense or anything) with a great attitude that hits everybody that moves or you can have a big guy who rarely uses his size as he should and plays when he feels like it.

I guess you like the "play when I feel like it" guys better.

trying to get the puck..
- wingz4life

Did such a good job of it that it went straight to Jordan Staal and then straight into the back of the net.

Did such a good job of it that it went straight to Jordan Staal and then straight into the back of the net.
- Two_For_Truth

cant win all the battles..

How do you follow up such an intelligent post with this? Paired with the right guy and given the proper amount of minutes, Dion could win the Norris trophy.
- Aquaman_2400

I think you're mistaken. I'm not knocking Phaneuf.

I'm knocking U_G, who said that Phaneuf sucks because he cannot turn his defensive partner, Mike Kostka, into a "superstar".

If that's the criteria for not sucking, then even Lidstrom would have been a bust to Uggie.

And this is what happens when he does.



Care to identify #84 in the corner doing nothing except watching the puck while Jordan Staal, a skyscraper of a player, is standing in front of the net completely and totally alone?
- Two_For_Truth

Holy moly a mistake..... no one is supposed to ever do that?? Did I say he was elite??

I guess I could come back with video of him lining up against Malkin and not allowing him any pts?

Did such a good job of it that it went straight to Jordan Staal and then straight into the back of the net.
- Two_For_Truth

Hey, remember that one time that Leafs player made one mistake that resulted in one goal (because, you know, goals do get scored in the NHL)?

UG does.

Where are the moderators, the new blog is full of bumholes.

Hey, remember that one time that Leafs player made one mistake that resulted in one goal (because, you know, goals do get scored in the NHL)?

UG does.
- Leeman4Gilmour

this will never be forgotten.

Hey, remember that one time that Leafs player made one mistake that resulted in one goal (because, you know, goals do get scored in the NHL)?

UG does.
- Leeman4Gilmour

this will never be forgotten.

And you say it as if van Riemsdyk is some kind of superstar. Big surprise he followed a good game with another disappearing act.

You can either have a defensive defender (not like the Leafs need help playing defense or anything) with a great attitude that hits everybody that moves or you can have a big guy who rarely uses his size as he should and plays when he feels like it.

I guess you like the "play when I feel like it" guys better.
- Two_For_Truth

Yeah, we traded a regular Adam Foote there.

It is particularly hilarious to watch you finally fall in love with Schenn once he's out of a Leafs jersey, though.

Holy moly a mistake..... no one is supposed to ever do that?? Did I say he was elite??

I guess I could come back with video of him lining up against Malkin and not allowing him any pts?
- burn

It's a stupid mistake. An utterly stupid mistake. If you are a center in the NHL, playing against top lines and you don't know that you're suppose to cover the opposing center, in front of your own damn net, when you are winning the numbers battle in the corner, then maybe you aren't as good defensively as everybody claims.

And this is what happens when he does.



Care to identify #84 in the corner doing nothing except watching the puck while Jordan Staal, a skyscraper of a player, is standing in front of the net completely and totally alone?
- Two_For_Truth

its not like they scored though

It's a stupid mistake. An utterly stupid mistake. If you are a center in the NHL, playing against top lines and you don't know that you're suppose to cover the opposing center, in front of your own damn net, when you are winning the numbers battle in the corner, then maybe you aren't as good defensively as everybody claims.
- Two_For_Truth

ever. no matter what.

Yeah, we traded a regular Adam Foote there.
- Leeman4Gilmour

Yeah, we acquired a regular Cam Neely here.

It is particularly hilarious to watch you finally fall in love with Schenn once he's out of a Leafs jersey, though.

Never had a problem with him before but a new strawman coming from you is nothing new here.

Hey, remember that one time that Leafs player made one mistake that resulted in one goal (because, you know, goals do get scored in the NHL)?

UG does.
- Leeman4Gilmour

It's a stupid mistake. An utterly stupid mistake. If you are a center in the NHL, playing against top lines and you don't know that you're suppose to cover the opposing center, in front of your own damn net, when you are winning the numbers battle in the corner, then maybe you aren't as good defensively as everybody claims.
- Two_For_Truth

Why are you acting like you are the one that discovered this grievous mistake and are the only one that knows about it?

He made a mistake..... He knows it, I know it everyone one watching the (frank)ing game knows it. One mistake doesn't change the fact that he's a capable 2-way player.

Ignored Malkin comment, not surprisingly.

Why are you acting like you are the one that discovered this grievous mistake and are the only one that knows about it?

He made a mistake..... He knows it, I know it everyone one watching the (frank)ing game knows it. One mistake doesn't change the fact that he's a capable 2-way player.

Ignored Malkin comment, not surprisingly.
- burn

Oh okay, so when he makes a huge mistake that is basic hockey, it's no big deal but if Malkin doesn't score a point one game, give Grabovski the Selke. And what the hell are you talking about anyways? Malkin scored a goal against the Leafs when they played each other. Guess he wasn't pointless as you said he was after all.

Yeah, we acquired a regular Cam Neely here.



Never had a problem with him before but a new strawman coming from you is nothing new here.
- Two_For_Truth

You know that cliche moment in a romantic comedy where the nerdy/"ugly" girl takes off her glasses and lets her hair down and becomes smokin' hot?

That's a pretty good analogy for the way Uggie views Leafs players. They take off the old blue jersey and become instant all-stars.

To imply Schenn was some kind of defensive phenom during his time here means that the last game you saw was 3 years ago. That would explain your gross incompetence, though.

Oh okay, so when he makes a huge mistake that is basic hockey, it's not big deal but if Malkin doesn't score a point one game, give Grabovski the Selke. And what the hell are you talking about anyways? Malkin scored a goal against the Leafs when they played each other. Guess he wasn't pointless as you said he was after all.
- Two_For_Truth

I didn't say he was perfect... elite. Pointing out one mistake (Admittedly bad) doesn't change anything. I'm sure we can fine a picture of a selke winner making a mistake?? Probably??

Where did I say selke winner?? Way to go, some things never change. I said he was a capable 2 way center. We're not talking about Selke here, only you trying to make something into nothing.

Oh, and MAlkin..... Did I say this year?? Mar 7 0pts-1, Feb 1 0pts -1, Jan 31 1G -2, Oct 29 2pts -1

Yeah, we acquired a regular Cam Neely here.



Never had a problem with him before but a new strawman coming from you is nothing new here.
- Two_For_Truth

calling him a cement head doesn't sound like something you'd say about a player you like.

To imply Schenn was some kind of defensive phenom during his time here means that the last game you saw was 3 years ago. That would explain your gross incompetence, though.
- Leeman4Gilmour

And that's where you go horribly wrong. Schenn isn't a defensive phenom except when you decide it's time to drum up another one of your precious strawman arguments.

Schenn was rushed into the NHL and had to deal with a complete moron of a head coach in Ron Wilson for the entirety of his career. Add to that the desire the team had for him to continue getting bigger rather than improve his skating. Luke Schenn wasn't perfect but the problems in his game were fixable. He had a great attitude and all the tools he needed to succeed. All he needed was proper direction.

Please, continue hurling insults to cover up your own incompetence. It's amusing.

I didn't say he was perfect... elite. Pointing out one mistake (Admittedly bad) doesn't change anything. I'm sure we can fine a picture of a selke winner making a mistake?? Probably??

Where did I say selke winner?? Way to go, some things never change. I said he was a capable 2 way center. We're not talking about Selke here, only you trying to make something into nothing.

Oh, and MAlkin..... Did I say this year?? Mar 7 0pts-1, Feb 1 0pts -1, Jan 31 1G -2, Oct 29 2pts -1
- burn

I have a video clip that'd prove Holzer is going to be a goal/game defenseman.

I didn't say he was perfect... elite. Pointing out one mistake (Admittedly bad) doesn't change anything. I'm sure we can fine a picture of a selke winner making a mistake?? Probably??
- burn

You can find mistakes Selke winners make but you'll find a lot more mistakes that Grabovski makes. And basic stuff too.

The fact is, Grabovski isn't as good defensively as you think he is.

Where did I say selke winner?? Way to go, some things never change. I said he was a capable 2 way center. We're not talking about Selke here, only you trying to make something into nothing.

That's what you're implying when you say he can shutdown Malkin.

Oh, and MAlkin..... Did I say this year?? Mar 7 0pts-1, Feb 1 0pts -1, Jan 31 1G -2, Oct 29 2pts -1

Sure thing. Must have been Grabovski and his impeccable shutdown game. He's so amazing in defensive situations, they don't even bother put him on the penalty kill.

Gunnarsson is good at his job which is a 2nd pairing defender. And that's where Phaneuf belongs. Maybe, at his best, with a true #1 defender, Phaneuf could be a good #2.

The point being, Phaneuf, as a #1 defender, doesn't work. He is crap at that job because he is in over his head. Again, much like Bozak would be a decent 3rd liner but he's a horrible 1st liner. Phaneuf gets the playing time he gets by default, not because he's actually good at being a #1 defender. By the same token, if you gave Gunnarsson #1 ice time, he'd get killed because it's far beyond his capabilities.
- Two_For_Truth

What can you say to this? Its very funny, yes. But as for accuracy ? LOL. Phaneuf is - at worse - the 15 th best defencemen in the NHL. He's most likely a top 10, and you do realize that the top 30 are basically all "#1 Defensemen"