Agreed. Which is why I said it depends on contract demends.
- gojets

It's not about contract demands. It's about comparables and statistics - the market in short, which will put him in the 7 mil range. Trade him.

I was like 17.

Oh, wait...
- Tee-Dot

i know how ya feel

You could easily argue Kadri and Frattin deserve to be in the top 6. MacArthur is capable of putting up 60 pts, and although Kuli hasn't been producing as much as he's capable of, he still plays well enough defensively.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Kadri has to prove it, and I hope he does. So does Frattin, but he's more of a 3rd liner on a good team. Same with Kulie, and Macart. We want to win, and if your top 6 includes Kulie, MacArt and Frattin, we won't. We'll DOMINATE 11th place. I like kulie, mac, and frattin, but their 3rd line on a good team. That's what I want them to be.....eventually

Might be worth it... Huberdeau and a 2nd for Phil.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Would be great for the Leafs if that happened, but I don't see the Panthers doing that.

a young pup ...


Turnbull, Sittler, Macdonald, Salming, Palmateer (sp) were the guys I grew up with ...
- dmnted

I'd like to see how Salming played.. I look fondly upon the Quinn era.. Man i miss that guy. He was always so pissed off haha

a young pup ...


Turnbull, Sittler, Macdonald, Salming, Palmateer (sp) were the guys I grew up with ...
- dmnted

i remember salming clearly

but i didnt really start watching hockey til i was 5 and by then the goalies were bester and st croix

Kadri has to prove it, and I hope he does. So does Frattin, but he's more of a 3rd liner on a good team. Same with Kulie, and Macart. We want to win, and if your top 6 includes Kulie, MacArt and Frattin, we won't. We'll DOMINATE 11th place. I like kulie, mac, and frattin, but their 3rd line on a good team. That's what I want them to be.....eventually
- gojets

Amen, brother. But isn't almost unreal and incredibly sad to think that we are still in this kind of situation after missing the playoffs for EIGHT YEARS? I honestly think a pod of dolphins would have seriously had us in better position than our recent management.

It's not about contract demands. It's about comparables and statistics - the market in short, which will put him in the 7 mil range. Trade him.
- triggermartin

7 mil. Who are you comparing him to? I hope your wrong. 5.5-6, I'm ok with. At 7, I'd get rid of him too. Not sure who'd pay him that. He's worth less that P. Kane, and he's paid 6.3

Kadri has to prove it, and I hope he does. So does Frattin, but he's more of a 3rd liner on a good team. Same with Kulie, and Macart. We want to win, and if your top 6 includes Kulie, MacArt and Frattin, we won't. We'll DOMINATE 11th place. I like kulie, mac, and frattin, but their 3rd line on a good team. That's what I want them to be.....eventually
- gojets

frattin is PPG right now. alot of teams dont have 6 guys at a PPG

kadri is at .8 PPG as well. i imagine if they were actually given 15-18min a night instead of 10-13 their stats would be top 6 easy

now they are young, so you want to give them a couple years before you really line them up against opposition shut down lines and top pairing d

Wow... long life to live without ever seeing the Leafs win a cup... I hope the leafs win one before i get to your age
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Jesus Tap-Dancing Christ!! I'm 36, not 96.

Amen, brother. But isn't almost unreal and incredibly sad to think that we are still in this kind of situation after missing the playoffs for EIGHT YEARS? I honestly think a pod of dolphins would have seriously had us in better position than our recent management.
- triggermartin

Whale the leafs win tonight? Dolphinitly!

7 mil. Who are you comparing him to? I hope your wrong. 5.5-6, I'm ok with. At 7, I'd get rid of him too. Not sure who'd pay him that. He's worth less that P. Kane, and he's paid 6.3
- gojets

he's an 80 point player

thats what his agent will point to

80 point players get 6.5 + mill easy

frattin is PPG right now. alot of teams dont have 6 guys at a PPG

kadri is at .8 PPG as well. i imagine if they were actually given 15-18min a night instead of 10-13 their stats would be top 6 easy

now they are young, so you want to give them a couple years before you really line them up against opposition shut down lines and top pairing d
- Dozzer

Pass the kool aid

Pass the kool aid
- gojets

so, when did you switch your team affiliation?

so, when did you switch your team affiliation?
- Dozzer

6 years 32 mill for kessel

Pass the kool aid
- gojets

enjoy ur ban

Jesus Tap-Dancing Christ!! I'm 36, not 96.
- Tee-Dot

enjoy your golden years gramps.

6 years 32 mill for kessel
- wingz4life

if i am kessel i say no thanks

reduce that to 5 years and you're getting closer

enjoy your golden years gramps.
- robin_steele264

I hope he doesn't

6 years 32 mill for kessel
- wingz4life

Take him.

Let's be honest here, anyway. Does anyone here REALLY believe Kessel wants to play in Toronto beyond this contract? Why would he? It's not his fault, but his trade here is simply a huge albatross around his neck, and the franchise as well.

anyone got a link, nit in leafs tv viewing area

I hope he doesn't
- AdamFrench

He doesnt have much time left... take the high road.

Take him.
- triggermartin

5.33mill a year would be fine

he just wont take it is all.

so, when did you switch your team affiliation?
- Dozzer

Hey, I'm as a big a leafs fan as the next guy, I just refuse to keep believing that some of our solid 3rd line talent is top 6 when its clearly not. Eight years have sobered my judgement.

No pressure on Kessel to score a goal or anything, but there's 348 NHL players who've scored a goal this season (344 coming into tonight, plus Jack Skille, J.T. Miller, Roman Cervenka, and Matt Calvert who've all notched their 1st of the season tonight) - and he's not one of them.